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Teenangels · 28/07/2020 13:04

I am being unreasonable.

Bit of background put my house up for sale, just after lockdown ended.
I had 9 viewing on the first Saturday and 3 offers. All at different levels one at full price from someone with something to sell, one just under the asking price think 10k in a chain, the third offer was 10% off the asking price, chain free mortgage offer in place. The first time buyers also wanted a second viewing before they offered and wanted me to cancel all other bookings so they could get first chance of buying it, they were told to F off. They put in an offer.
We negotiated with the first time buyers and managed to get them to offer 5% of the asking price this was still 40K under the asking price. but we had found a house and for ease went with them but told them that this was a fixed price and there would be no further movement on price from either party.
This was beginning of June, they have had a mortgage offer and surveyor round, all fine house was valued at over their offer, I did not move on our price.
Fast forward to beginning of July another surveyors has come round and found some issues, like moss of the roof I kid you not!! That the electrics are not up to current 2019 regulations, the house was re wired in 2016, that they should check the drainage, and one of the struts in the roof is bending by 5 degrees (this is not a supporting part and there is no movement and if they wanted to replace it, it would cost no more than £50.

My buyer wrote a long email to the estate agent 3.5 weeks after they got the report to say that they wanted a structural engineer to come into the house, a builder and a plumber and electrician and we would have to vacate the house for the day so that they could check everything.
He wants the electrician to take off all the plugs and check the wiring in some of the walls (Channel them out) but not be responsible for any damage. I told them to f off, he wants to check that the electrics are working and safe ( we live in the house with 4 kids).
He is now saying that I have to let him have access.
I have given him access on Thursday to look at the roof, but not to do any electrical work.
I have said that if he plays anymore games the house will be back on the market, I think he wants me to reduce the price, there is no chance.

OP posts:
LonelyGir1 · 29/07/2020 11:51

@elfycat

I sold a house a year ago. The first couple to see it put in an offer under price (inexpensive 2 bed terrace in a okish part of a notorious town, not expensive and priced to sell) we asked for a little more and settled on an amount. Surveys done, contracts sent via solicitors. I signed mine and gave it back. Date set for exchange.

The day before exchange I got a call from a very apologetic estate agent. They wanted £10k off or they didn't want to proceed. waffle, waffle, brexit, waffle.

I said I would allow the 2k drop to their original offer but no more and we had to exchange immediately. If they weren't happy with that the agent should use my exact wording and tell them 'to get to fuck'. She did Grin She felt the 10k was testing the waters and there was no guarantee that they wouldn't try for more if they succeeded.

Took a few months to get a buyer. And the market slumped and I probably lost 10k but I loved that house and I wouldn't have been happy for the original buyers to have it to live in after their CFery.

Back on the market is the best way to deal with this. It's a pity that it's not more straightforward.

Sounds like you lost out here as you sold for about the price they offered.

Things did drop a bit when brexit (rather than coronavirus) was the focus 😂

ShebaShimmyShake · 29/07/2020 11:54

Glad to hear you're pulling out. The house is yours! Sounds like you have a good chance of getting your asking price too.

MyOwnSummer · 29/07/2020 12:16

Well done for telling them to eff off, you have probably saved yourself a shedload of hassle!

Teenangels · 29/07/2020 15:09

I was never going to consider, letting them in the house for a day.

The estate agent has told them that I am re marketing the house....
Countless emails asking me to re consider. Saying that will not need a electrician to come in as they now understand there is no need.
4 viewings confirmed for Sat.

OP posts:
GiantKitten · 29/07/2020 15:14

@Teenangels

I was never going to consider, letting them in the house for a day.

The estate agent has told them that I am re marketing the house....
Countless emails asking me to re consider. Saying that will not need a electrician to come in as they now understand there is no need.
4 viewings confirmed for Sat.

Delightful schadenfreude Grin
HavelockVetinari · 29/07/2020 15:15

This is ace, well done OP! What a misogynistic prick, I hope he never finds a house.

WaxOnFeckOff · 29/07/2020 15:33

Countless emails asking me to re consider. Saying that will not need a electrician to come in as they now understand there is no need.

They may indeed now understand that but believe me they won't understand something else, and then something else. Fuck them. It's not about not understanding, it's the attitude and arrogance and superiority that is the problem.

I'm perfectly happy to support people who might be a bit inexperienced etc but you can spot the attitude a mile off.

Ernieshere · 29/07/2020 15:44

Are they emailing you or the agent? Sad

FizzyGreenWater · 29/07/2020 15:47

Tell them they're going to have to get permission from your husband before you'll consider their offer again. Once they have his permission in writing you'll think about it :)

squiglet111 · 29/07/2020 15:59

This is excellent! They have really shot themselves in the foot!

There is a mini boom at the moment and it's turned into a sellers market because of no stamp duty. Your property should hopefully get snapped up at a better price and they will have to be in bidding wars with other buyers for properties!

What's funny is that they were in the best position and they messed it up. They had an offer accepted when houses weren't selling so got the best deal, and would have saved stamp duty if they went ahead without getting greedy!

Alsohuman · 29/07/2020 16:02

Karma’s such a bitch! She doesn’t usually strike as fast as this though. Very, very well played, OP. They won’t pull those stunts again.

SayakaMurata · 29/07/2020 16:10

Well done OP, you have done the right thing.

A few years ago when I was selling a house I was offered a very low amount. I refused. The EA explained that the buyer was a potential landlord and wanted the house for a good price 'so that his sums will add up'.

He went on to increase his offer 7 times, each by an extra £1000. I kept refusing.

I was then offered a final amount, still a lot under my asking price. The EA told me that he woukd stretch to that amount but 'really wasn't happy about it.'

I turned it down. I just knew that he would try it on to get a reduction. And was I supposed to care that he wasn't happy?

I accepted a much higher offer 2 days later. Although I would have accepted less than sell to him!

UncleShady · 29/07/2020 16:19

@FizzyGreenWater

Tell them they're going to have to get permission from your husband before you'll consider their offer again. Once they have his permission in writing you'll think about it :)
Perfect.
binkyblinky · 29/07/2020 16:23

Where are the buyers from? Wonder if these expectations are normal there? Crazy demands, well dodged OP!

Feralkidsatthecampsite · 29/07/2020 16:25

Well done op!
And you managed all that beautifully

Even without a man to do the talking!!
I would go speak to the other seller!!

Longwhiskers14 · 29/07/2020 16:35

Four viewings already booked, brilliant! Maybe this will teach them that they can't bully and threaten to get what they want in life. Plus denigrating with that 'we'll only deal with the husband' twattery.

thatsforsure · 29/07/2020 16:42

We had buyers that did this - made a reduced initial offer due to a dodgy window (fair enough we agreed) then tried to drop the price again when the window came up in their survey. They pulled out and then came back with a lower offer and wanted everything done really fast - it was a nightmare as we had just had a baby.
They sold 5 years later and made quite a loss - shame

GBroGal · 29/07/2020 16:57

@SecularPanic
Robert Louis Stevenson wrote a short story called "Thrawn Janet" - about the ghost of a woman who was hanged for a crime she didn't commit (or did she?) and she refused to take it lying down.

AuditAngel · 29/07/2020 17:21

My sister and I had this when we were selling my mum’s house. My sister had been dealing all the way through with the agent (she was living there, but was moving out pre exchange to sell with vacant possession.)

The buyer mucked about, dallied about exchange, so I told EA that if we had not exchanged on a particular date at 2pm it was to be resisted before 5pm. Was relisted at 4pm and exchanged at 5.15

He then started trying to move completion date, but I simply refused any discussions and said we had agreed a completion date and any alternative was unacceptable and we would re-list......

By this point the EA convinced him he was on a hiding to nothing. His solicitor was useless too.

billy1966 · 29/07/2020 17:31

Well done OP for putting manners on him.

I wonder how much his partner is in "awe" of him now that he has lost them the house with his fuckwittery.

He's probably having a tantrum and showing himself up to be an even bigger twat.

WiddlinDiddlin · 29/07/2020 17:34

Hahahaha brilliant!

Im sure you will find a MUCH nicer buyer swiftly :)

ChasingRainbows19 · 29/07/2020 17:40

I was a first time buyer. We aren’t all fussy like that at all apart from some issues on the survey. I loved my now house and was happy to go ahead knowing a little work needed doing, its part of owning a house. Even new builds have issues!
Also I’d be concerned about them dropping the price at the last minute/ exchange or trying something else dodgy!

Piwi1625 · 29/07/2020 17:42

Wouldn't all what he needed to know Be in the legal pack? Sounds like he's playing a game. Sell it and done to someone else, don't wait for this person.

Mummyoflittledragon · 29/07/2020 17:43

@Teenangels

I was never going to consider, letting them in the house for a day.

The estate agent has told them that I am re marketing the house....
Countless emails asking me to re consider. Saying that will not need a electrician to come in as they now understand there is no need.
4 viewings confirmed for Sat.

But but but... what does your husband say??!

Is he on board?? Grin

dancingpenguins · 29/07/2020 17:45

I love that you've followed through, I can't believe their attitude!