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To report someone returning from Spain

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Archie1989 · 27/07/2020 13:08

A friend of my partner has said he has no intention of isolating on his return from Spain. Should I anonymously report them? My mum was on the shielding list and it’s making me quite angry. People who went abroad would know the risks during all of this....and then to refuse to isolate shows such arrogance and disregard for others.

I don’t know this person well and I don’t want to make my partner feel stuck in the middle.

OP posts:
BBCONEANDTWO · 27/07/2020 16:50

@MaxNormal

You know that Spain is huge and that most areas of Spain still have really low instances of infection, right?

You can seriously see how the Stasi flourished.

Yes - I agree we're becoming a nation of nasty people grassing up our neighbours.

More worrying is Boris Johnson's new push for the overweight - we will soon have the same thing as Hitler did ' National Socialist League of the Reich for Physical Exercise'
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_League_of_the_Reich_for_Physical_Exercise

I wonder what they will name it.

saraclara · 27/07/2020 16:51

A friend of my partner has said he has no intention of isolating on his return from Spain.

So yep, OP wants to report him for something he's said at a point of stress, anger and confusion. He's not come back yet, and what he actually does once he's here may very well be different.

PhilCornwall1 · 27/07/2020 16:56

I wonder what they will name it.

It'll be the BBB.

Boris' Bouncing Bellies

EvilPea · 27/07/2020 16:57

All the MYOB lot, how would you feel if its your family member infected as a result of someone returning and failing to quarantine?

Surely its all our business? They aren't just infecting themselves? This isn't a keeping it to yourself virus.

KeyWorker · 27/07/2020 16:59

COVID police?? Hate to break it to you OP, but there is no Covid police and nobody to ‘report’ your friends to.

NewNewt · 27/07/2020 16:59

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MzHz · 27/07/2020 16:59

@saraclara

A friend of my partner has said he has no intention of isolating on his return from Spain.

So yep, OP wants to report him for something he's said at a point of stress, anger and confusion. He's not come back yet, and what he actually does once he's here may very well be different.

If only there were a way for the op’s boyf to like just not see his mate for a couple of weeks...

Oh. Yeah. That.

Archie1989 · 27/07/2020 17:00

Wow! Didn’t expect such a reaction. I know several people have said that there are areas that are remote and they may be ok. But they are returning on a flight with recycled air with people who have been all over. I think it’s the flights that concern me.

I wouldn’t report this person for just saying something. Saying is different to doing.

And I come from a place of worrying about a very at risk parent and also knowing someone who had to say goodbye to a parent with COVID. Thankfully, in the end their parent pulled through.

But to be honest, seriously, it’s a short time of pulling together. Making some sacrifices. Two weeks at home isn’t the end of the world....spreading it to someone at risk could literally mean the end of their world.

OP posts:
starrynight19 · 27/07/2020 17:01

But the point is we are probably more likely to catch the virus from higher risk areas here than we are abroad in low risk areas.
It shouldn’t be a one size fits all policy. The same as a national lockdown has moved on to more localised ones.
That way those travelling can look at the statistics and make an informed decision on the area they are visiting. Which am sure would be the same as we would do over here.

PhilCornwall1 · 27/07/2020 17:02

@EvilPea

All the MYOB lot, how would you feel if its your family member infected as a result of someone returning and failing to quarantine?

Surely its all our business? They aren't just infecting themselves? This isn't a keeping it to yourself virus.

You'd never know if it was somebody who returned from abroad, or some other random who hasn't and could have picked it up from anywhere.
saraclara · 27/07/2020 17:03

I know several people have said that there are areas that are remote and they may be ok. But they are returning on a flight with recycled air with people who have been all over. I think it’s the flights that concern me.

If you've had a seaside holiday in Malaga, you're not going to be flying home with people who've been in Barcelona. Just as if you holiday in Bournemouth, you're not going to fly back to Spain with people who've been on holiday in Glasgow.

Flowers009 · 27/07/2020 17:03

What a sad person you are.

PhilCornwall1 · 27/07/2020 17:04

@Archie1989

Wow! Didn’t expect such a reaction. I know several people have said that there are areas that are remote and they may be ok. But they are returning on a flight with recycled air with people who have been all over. I think it’s the flights that concern me.

I wouldn’t report this person for just saying something. Saying is different to doing.

And I come from a place of worrying about a very at risk parent and also knowing someone who had to say goodbye to a parent with COVID. Thankfully, in the end their parent pulled through.

But to be honest, seriously, it’s a short time of pulling together. Making some sacrifices. Two weeks at home isn’t the end of the world....spreading it to someone at risk could literally mean the end of their world.

So have the balls to call the person and tell them what you will do.
MzHz · 27/07/2020 17:04

Spending any more time at all with these awful curtain twitching fake doom mongers is enough to make ANYONE want to leave the country

@Lweji, please tell me that your country of residence doesn’t have this level of idiocy?

NewNewt · 27/07/2020 17:04

airplane air recycling is amongst the most rigorous and safest you can get:

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-aircraft-air/as-flying-returns-jetmakers-seek-to-quell-fears-over-cabin-air-idUSKBN22U2VJ

"Half that air is then recycled through hospital-grade HEPA filters designed to remove some 99.97% of contaminants including viruses. The other half is flushed outside through valves."

Any documented case of people getting viral infections on a plane was from the cabin crew themselves handing out drinks and duty free, whcih prsumably they aren't doing and/or are wearing PPE

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 27/07/2020 17:05

But to be honest, seriously, it’s a short time of pulling together. Making some sacrifices. Two weeks at home isn’t the end of the world....spreading it to someone at risk could literally mean the end of their world except it isn’t a short time it’s been nearly half the year of people sacrificing with no end to the virus in sight. I really resent the “well if it saves a life it’s worth it” line, if you ask me to forfeit my livelihood and in turn my ability to feed, house and cloth my child for the sake of one death, no I’m not prepared to do it! There’s a middle ground we have to find. I do feel bad for the people who’ve have had the goal posts moved with zero notice

Archie1989 · 27/07/2020 17:06

@NewNewt thanks for posting the link. That’s very reassuring to know. Something I didn’t realise.

OP posts:
NewNewt · 27/07/2020 17:07

and I've actually lost a family member to covid - yet the supermarkets are full of people defiantly not wearing masks. I heard one yesterday saying "I can't, I have severe asthma" - whilst buying whisky and fags - I am absolutely not making this up!

Protect yourself and your loved ones - you can't control other people.

Archie1989 · 27/07/2020 17:07

@OnlyFoolsnMothers I’m not asking people to forfeit their livelihood. They made a decision to go somewhere knowing the risks. They made the decision to risk their livelihood by doing that.

OP posts:
pepperycinnamon · 27/07/2020 17:08

@NewNewt

Who do I report all the ludicrous non-mask wearers pretending they can't wear masks due to some made up illness so they can feel very special to please?

I'd much rather everyone around me wore masks than a few people were forced to stay at home for 2 weeks. And the very few people with a genuine reason to not wear one should have a special exemption letter and lanyard from the government - another thing the government has neglected to do to back up their regulations.

And even if you do find someone to report them to (for something they haven't done yet). I'm sure all they will need to say is they have a medical exemption and severe agoraphobia/anxiety/depression/mental health issues etc and be let off like all the people not wearing masks.

As somebody said on this thread (or maybe it was one of the others on the subject), they are unable to wear a mask for extremely valid reasons but they have never told their GP about it so even if there was a government exemption in place they wouldn't be able to access it.

I do think everybody who can wear them should though; I personally hate wearing one but it's only that I hate it and so I'm putting up with it.

The only thing that is really annoying to me is shop keepers in small shops like the one I went to the other day - they had a huge hand written notice outside asking you to wear a mask to comply with government guidelines yet the woman in the shop wasn't wearing one, she had no perspex screen or visor so as far as I am concerned why should I wear a mask in her shop when she won't wear on to protect me? I went in, saw she wasn't wearing a mask and so left - she can have my business if she protects me in the same way she expects me to protect her.

MzHz · 27/07/2020 17:08

@NewNewt

airplane air recycling is amongst the most rigorous and safest you can get:

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-aircraft-air/as-flying-returns-jetmakers-seek-to-quell-fears-over-cabin-air-idUSKBN22U2VJ

"Half that air is then recycled through hospital-grade HEPA filters designed to remove some 99.97% of contaminants including viruses. The other half is flushed outside through valves."

Any documented case of people getting viral infections on a plane was from the cabin crew themselves handing out drinks and duty free, whcih prsumably they aren't doing and/or are wearing PPE

AND we have to wear masks the entire journey from cab to terminal to plane to terminal.

This is also accented by the spacing on planes, nobody is near anyone

Archie1989 · 27/07/2020 17:08

@NewNewt you’re so right. So sorry you lost someone to COVID :(

OP posts:
GreytExpectations · 27/07/2020 17:10

According to the OP, the "COVID Police". You couldn't make it up!

I can't believe people actually think a such thing as "COVID police" exist 😂 since covid I feel like people like the OP have stopped engaging with their brain.

Bananabread8 · 27/07/2020 17:11

Sour grapes yet again...

It’s shocking. A colleague admitted to me that she reported her neighbour for having people over during lockdown. At least she did admit it was because she had missed her parents herself and was tempted to do a 2hour drive to see her parents.

I doubt anything will happen even if you report it OP.

HMSSophie · 27/07/2020 17:11

To all those who say "myob" and call people "stasi, do you realise that the other version of minding your own business is standing idly by while the world goes to hell in a handcart?

For every "stasi" reporter was a complacent self-justifying idiot who thought that "saying nothing" while very bad shit happened was an acceptable response. MYOB while bad shit happens is not a good look. "Nothing to do with me" is also "I couldn't give a shit as long as it doesn't affect me". Definition of selfishness

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