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Am I the only person who has hair that is just shit no matter what!

104 replies

knotweed · 25/07/2020 18:21

As per title I have the worst kind of hair, thick and frizzy which need daily straightening only to frizz and kink out all over the place despite using numerous products which claim to stop this happening.

I can't even put my hair up as it becomes limp and bits fall out the hair band.

I've tried long hair, short hair, layers etc and yet I still have shit hair!

I actually feel like shaving it off!

Anyone have any miracles to help?

OP posts:
LakieLady · 26/07/2020 10:44

Let it dry naturally and get a silk pillowcase, or pin a silk scarf to your pillowcase, so your hair will be in contact with the silk overnight.

Silk is brilliant for hair that frizzes. Wrapping a silk scarf round a hairbrush and "brushing" your hair with it also helps. This used to make my mother's frizzy hair smooth and wavy.

Then learn to live with your waves, and get a cut that works with wavy hair.

OhioOhioOhio · 26/07/2020 10:45

It's my fringe that's never right. Ever.

ShandlersWig · 26/07/2020 10:46

I agree with pp the colour looks over processed so that increases the damaged look. Also the style your trying to acheive is so against your natural hair type it's adding damage too. Can you post a pic of it after youve left it to dry naturally?

ShandlersWig · 26/07/2020 10:47

Ive been using a silk scruncy to tie my hair in a top knot ar bedtime and that has made a huge difference to the frizz.

Grumpymum789 · 26/07/2020 10:51

I think I have your hair too. It’s very heavy and thick at the back, but fine around my front & temples. It’s very greasy at the roots after 2 days but like straw on the ends. It’s not flat but not properly curly and it kinks. When washed it’s bushy and like candy floss strands floating away at the same time.

WinnieLowCo · 26/07/2020 10:51

No, this is my hair type too. If I saw this hair type on a shampoo label ''shit no matter what'' I'd think, ah, shampoo for my hair type.

It's so thick and wavy and not quite curly but definitely frizzy.

I've been looking at afro hair for inspiration. I'm white, but I honestly think I've spent my whole life trying to encourage my hair to behave in a smooth flat way and it would be more naturally inclined to grow up and out.

I'm pushing water up hill with my hair! So tired of it.

If other people straighten their hair it stays straight but if I straighten my hair, and then leave the house, it absorbs moisture and becomes 'thick' and frizzy again.

1984isnow · 26/07/2020 10:53

I have the opposite. Flat, shapeless hair that is too sleek to hold any sort of styling for longer than an hour. It slides out of bobbles if I try to put it up. I have tried everything (except a perm, but I am on the brink), and the most I can get is a subtle wave/kink at the ends which isn't worth the effort.

WinnieLowCo · 26/07/2020 10:55

PS, curly gurl didn't improve my hair either, it didn't make it curly. I just felt dirty. I gave a good shot though. Several times.

I don't shampoo my hair every time I wash it though. Every second time I wash it I just use conditioner. That might help.

antipodes1 · 26/07/2020 10:55

I’ve always hated my hair. It’s also thick and frizzy it has a curl but not a nice one it sorts of has lots of kinks that go off on different directions. If I just leave it to dry it does curl a bit nicer but it takes so so long to dry I have wet hair for half the day and makes me freezing cold in winter. If I tie it up wet it will still be wet when I take it out at night. Drying it with hair dryer takes so long I dread washing my hair.
The ONLY thing that makes my hair nice is a keratin hair treatment. I buy it from amazon for £25 and do it myself at home. It takes about 1.5hrs but then lasts months and makes my hair so manageable. It’s a life changer. You can get it done at the salon but it’s costs £££

justchecking1 · 26/07/2020 10:59

My hair is very much like yours. Things that have helped:

  1. Aphogee protein treatment 2 step programme- like keratin but you can do it at home
  2. Using co-wash instead of shampoo.
3 not brushing it once it's dry 4 silk pillowcase
  1. Washing my hair upside down under the shower so the jets hit the underneath rather than the top so the frizz stays underneath, and Using warm rather than hot water

I feel your pain

BluebellsGreenbells · 26/07/2020 11:04

Ask the hairdresser for a spiral cut
Don’t wash it everyday
Use silicone free products

coronaornona · 26/07/2020 11:11

Curly girl has fixed my problem. I no longer have frizz but lovely curls.
I spent the best years of my life straightening and battling frizz

TreacherousPissFlap · 26/07/2020 11:25

Me - mine is very fine but there's lots of it. It's also very soft, has an annoying wave (so neither straight nor curly) and I also have a double crown.

I eventually found me a hairdresser with years of experience and endless patience. He can fashion my hair into a passably decent haircut, but I need to go every 4-5 weeks to maintain it DH is blissfully unaware it's £45 a pop!

Over the years I've learnt to live with what I've got. I'm also a great fan of hats Grin

Goyle · 26/07/2020 11:33

I have tried lots of hairstyles and nothing looks nice. When I was at school my hair was super thick. Post-children and now grey, it's a bit thin at the front but still tons out back. It's course, and wavy, more so since I let the grey come through. I allow it to mostly dry, I add a heat protectant,I blow dry and only iron the sticky-out bits.

My hairdresser believed he could find the perfect style for me, but every single time I leave the salon, the picture of perfection reverts back to it's frizzy, wavy bird's nest. My hairdresser has now given up Smile.

I'm growing it out now so that I can sling it in a bun or plait and give it bollocks. I'm not doing the "post 40 short hair cut" thing. I'm aiming for Earth Mother meets Mary Beard thing. Because I am defeated.

Goyle · 26/07/2020 11:37

I live in a hard water area and use products with SL which prob don't help. Thank you PP I might have to hunt for an SL-free shampoo.

WinnieLowCo · 26/07/2020 11:37

@antipodes1

I’ve always hated my hair. It’s also thick and frizzy it has a curl but not a nice one it sorts of has lots of kinks that go off on different directions. If I just leave it to dry it does curl a bit nicer but it takes so so long to dry I have wet hair for half the day and makes me freezing cold in winter. If I tie it up wet it will still be wet when I take it out at night. Drying it with hair dryer takes so long I dread washing my hair. The ONLY thing that makes my hair nice is a keratin hair treatment. I buy it from amazon for £25 and do it myself at home. It takes about 1.5hrs but then lasts months and makes my hair so manageable. It’s a life changer. You can get it done at the salon but it’s costs £££
I used to get this treatment done in salons and i loved the result, thick but smooth hair. They claim it lasts 12 weeks but I got 7 weeks out of it.

I stopped doing it because I think it's a carcinogenic treatment.
I just can't live with all those chemicals.

Jinglebellissimo · 26/07/2020 11:39

My hair is just like yours. If you do have the money a brazillian blow dry is life changing. Like seriously life changing - no more straightening, barely any frizz. I always bang on about how amazing they are

knotweed · 26/07/2020 11:44

So many replies ! And so many people with my shit hair 🤔

I do colour it myself with a box dye which is too dark but I'm not sure how I go lighter?

Would I need a hairdresser to step the colour first?
My hair is coming in white, not grey and I am in my thirties so feel too young for white hair yet but do think a lighter brown would look better.

I do not go to the hairdresser, I have never had a positive experience with them, they all claim I need a special cut that will work with my hair and it always results in more mess.

My hair has always been bushy and frizzy even without using heated appliances the texture does not change.

I have always tried every conditioning treatment known to man and no change after using either.

Letting it air dry results in huge hair that ends up under my ears, i have tried it so many times with products too but no nice result.

I have pondered shaving it and getting a wig as I spend vast amounts of time daily yet the result is still shit!

I'd love to wake up and throw it in a hair band and be done with it but I'm sparse off hair round my face since having children and issues with iron.

I take biotin daily and eat a very good diet which claims to aid in hair growth, I've been seen a doctor about it but no good outcomes were had.

I will purchase some of the suggestions of products and I will also let it dry naturally and post a picture

OP posts:
ChrissyPlummer · 26/07/2020 11:53

I found my hair better behaved in a hard water area strangely. Since moving back to my hometown three years ago it is noticeably harder to manage, hence the pixie. I remember when I lived in the SE how much more manageable it was. A lady I work with says the same, she moved from London to the NW and says her hair is so much harder to handle here.

Planesmistakenforstars · 26/07/2020 12:09

Use cool water, not hot, when washing it. Use silicone-free shampoo, or better yet, co-wash it and don't wash it every day. Don't blow dry your hair. Wrap it in a microfibre towel and let it dry like that naturally. Only brush it while it's still wet, never when it's dry. Use a silk pillowcase or silk wrap to sleep in. My hair is a long mass of frizz, and it's not completely tamed, but it's much better from doing/not doing these things.

pigsDOfly · 26/07/2020 12:17

You have my hair knotweed and to make matters worse mine doesn't grow straight down but sideways , so it sticks out from my head at the sides but is flatter on the back.

I have learn from experience that washing every day makes it frizzier and dryer so tend to leave it at long as I can without feeling my head is manky, roughly 4/5 days.

A pp said to go easy on the products, and I agree with that. I condition my hair but find it's better if I use a small amount of conditioner and also not too much shampoo.

I've tried several anti frizz products but tbh find they make it worse.

I've only ever had one hairdresser who seemed able to manage my hair and that must have been about 50 years ago. Since then no one has managed to make it look decent. I've left it to grow over lockdown and I'm dreading getting it cut.

The only advantage I can see is that now I'm in my early 70s I still have full thick hair, so that's something I suppose.

Llamazoom · 26/07/2020 12:29

It looks really dry and could use a trim, frizzy hair is usually curly or wavy, have you tried any curl products and scrunched with a diffuser.

My hair is fine but lots of it, if I leave it to dry naturally it’s wavy and frizzy, if I use a diffuser and curl products I get ringlets.
To get sleek straight hair I use large Velcro rollers overnight and straighten in the morning, this gives lots of lift at the root and as long as I don’t get caught in the rain it lasts for 4 or 5 days.

A hairdresser would be able to sort out lightening it slowly, I had a couple of bleach baths to lighten over dyed dark brown dye, it was then tinted a warm mid brown.

You can do bleach baths at home, I think it’s a low percentage of bleach mixed with lots conditioner, it lightens slowly and gently.

Pippa12 · 26/07/2020 13:09

Honestly from one curly girl to the next, don’t let your hair dry naturally... it’ll be a disaster Blush

DianaT1969 · 26/07/2020 18:19

Your dye makes the hair look too flat and brittle. I know that you don't want to let your natural white hair show, but I suggest you ask a hairdresser to help you go light with a few blonde-white highlights to allow your natural hair to grow out without a strong demarcation line. That way you can stop dumping chemicals on your scalp for 40 minutes every month. I guarantee that your natural growth will be stronger and thicker. Read the posts in Grey Facebook groups to see the difference in condition.
Stop using heat straighteners and put some Marula oil on while damp and put into a French braid as suggested. Pretty earrings and you're good to go. No more damage or wasting time.

Sniv · 26/07/2020 18:40

I also have shit hair.

I used to use Head&Shoulders but it made my hair greasy at the top, dry at the ends and frizzy all over. I then switched to the curly girl method, which did wonders for my hair... but also reminded me why I was using bloody Head&Shoulders in the first place - because my scalp falls off with out it.

I'm on a quest to find a curly-suitable shampoo that'll sort my scalp out too and I'm still looking. The last one I tried was Jason Dandruff Treatment with "FDA approved Sulfur", which left me reeking like I'd just escaped from Hell. The scent of rotten eggs followed me around for the whole of the next day causing my DP to physically recoil from me. It even contaminated my pillow. Awful stuff!

So any CG-ers who have found a miracle dandruff cure, please share.

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