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To think this man is disturbed

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jackdawdawn · 23/07/2020 23:24

I had a conversation with a neighbour today. He lives alone and is late 40s-ish.

He had just been to the gym and started complaining about their showers being closed. Then he said, 'there is worse to come, you know.'

He started to talk about the government forcing people to wear masks, and about C19 being a myth, with the death rates made up by govts . He got quite agitated.

He mentioned a movement called the 'Illuminati' and said they were trying to take over the world (?) About Bill Gates and Elon Musk and other famous men being part of a paedophile ring, which also includes Chinese and BLM figures, which Trump has rumbled and is trying to investigate. About the new telecommunications satellites and 5G masts spying on people . And then some rant about MMR giving kids autism. I just nodded my head, I wasn't going to start arguing.

I know that conspiracy theories are rife online right now, but surely beliefs like this are excessive? I think this man is disturbed and needs to be assessed or evaluated. He is separated and single, as far as I know, but has two children who sometimes come to stay but what is his mental state, really? When does conspiracy theorism shade into paranoia?

I know his mum and dad and sister to see (they all live locally), but it would be a difficult conversation!

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serenada · 24/07/2020 12:20

@PlanDeRaccordement

What are the three things you think are true? I really want to know!

LastTrainEast · 24/07/2020 12:25

lol at grain of truth. these people sit around embellishing these stories. Go on youtube and you can watch them adding details.

Someone in the comments will say "do you know I think Elvis might have been one of the lizards remote controlling people via 5G" and the next day everyone on there 'remembers' seeing evidence that Elvis was involved.

Sometimes they are funny, but sometimes not as they can be dangerous. Some of them want to shoot out cell phones towers and others want to shoot the people working on them.

jackdawdawn · 24/07/2020 12:34

@msbevvy I have just watched this, and it seems that many people are concerned about relatives suddenly subscribing to weird belief. Interestingly, it seems to suggest that older family members are most susceptible.

It may seem absurd and not worth getting worked up about, but unfortunately these mindsets and vulnerabilites are exploited by extreme political ideologies. The questions we ask in retrospect - how did an entire nation fall for such a thing? - seem grimly relevant right now.

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Komacho · 24/07/2020 12:52

Back spamming threads with his videos are you?

He's a twat who makes money convincing people that doctors and medicine will harm them and Aids and CV are not a threat.

Komacho · 24/07/2020 12:54

That was meant @Fowler, or whatever your username is this time.

LastTrainEast · 24/07/2020 13:18

"It's wise to question everything imo" quite right too. Except for youtube of course. It's normal to believe everything you see on there. Grin

This morning I spent some time checking if gravity was real as I've heard it might have been invented by NASA in the 60s. (along with the moon apparently)

I didn't open my fridge as I had no hard evidence that it wasn't an alien hatchery with newborns waiting to leap onto my face. After all I've seen those aliens on films and everyone knows Hollywood only makes films in order to hide truths in them (predictive programming).

I had a sharp pain in the place where I am told your appendix is (this may be an illuminata lie) Naturally I wouldn't put myself in the hands of people trained in biology and anatomy. Ha! for all I know they are really assassins carrying out the wishes of the Secret NWO people who created the Georgia Guide Stones and want to depopulate the planet.

Healing crystals it is then (and maybe some colloidal silver.

Someone pushed some paper items through the slot in my front door, but I'm not falling for that. I'm no sheeple! I pushed them right back out again!.

Stay alert. The world needs more lerts.

Justaboy · 24/07/2020 13:32

People really have got fucking stupid in the last few years. Sort of the last 5 years, its really really gone downhill.

Nah!, peeps have always been like thta with the advent of the net and sosual meeja they get more publicity.

As for U tube its like the net can be used for good and bad. Theres some good programes well sometimes harldy programs.

Fer instance how do you chage a stop light bulb on the offside of a Vauxhall Cosa design very useful for that:)

And music vids one here a scheool band thats very promising the vocalaist hardley any age at all as is the bass player and the guitar and drums only let down by the school sound system!

The orignal band Rush three brillaint muscians all family men not scanals and all that bollix! That track as above Spirt of Radio at 1:20 in

Excclent cover of Rick don't loose that number by Steely Dan brill sound!

GR8 Cover of Aces how long

And Naval histiory very well done series by Drachinifel

I'd prewfer to py my licence fee to that rather than those overpaid Oiks at the Bloody BBC

Nuff said!

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 24/07/2020 13:45

Sometimes they are funny, but sometimes not as they can be dangerous
Even the Nittoli guy, deep in to Q Anon thinks they’re getting big enough and dangerous enough to unleash mass violence across USA, if Biden wins the election.

Ingridla · 24/07/2020 13:49

My corner-shopkeeper started a conversation regarding similar conspiracy theories the other week, I just smiled and nodded then gently assured him that's it's all probably made up nonsense and he really shouldn't worry about it.

I think in a roundabout way he was asking me what I thought about it as he has an idea of the line of work I'm in and wanted some validation.

Butterer · 24/07/2020 13:53

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serenada · 24/07/2020 14:05

Thing is you can’t actually question everything - it’s overwhelming. Everyone has an existence based on a narrative that doesn’t hold u under scrutiny - British identity and its values are a good example of this as we can see at the moment with decolonisation theory.

Frighteningly, though I was called an ‘illuminati’ by a very bright pupil who obviously is online a lot (yr 6). He then told others in the class. He picked u something from somewhere that meant he wouldn’t accept my corrections of his work.

People really do have the capacity to accept these ideas as they resonate on some level with their experiences and unfortunately they don’t accept the rational or uncomfortable truth.

serenada · 24/07/2020 14:07

Rupert Sheldrake is another good example as he is Cambridge educated and has ‘respectability’ all over him.

I have been reading up on Peter Bohm, too.

Looks like both were discredited from the science community but I know of one person who believes in Sheldrake.

Graciebobcat · 25/07/2020 03:36

Back away, avoid, ignore. Not worth spending any time arguing with him.

Winterwoollies · 25/07/2020 04:09

Wow, he sure said a lot of things during your conversation..,

Shouldbedoing · 28/07/2020 09:17

I got flak for suggesting that men.have more time to immerse themselves in conspiracy theories. New report today on work leisure etc
BBC News - Men and women's working hours 'nearly equal'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53558250

Shouldbedoing · 28/07/2020 09:23

Winterwoolies, they do fit a lot in. If they think they have a sympathetic ear, they're off!

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