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Took my mask off on the aeroplane AIBU

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Tsubasa1 · 23/07/2020 16:30

I was on a 5-hour flight recently alone with my two kids under 3. I once every few years might suffer from travel sickness and unfortunately on this day it was the worst I've ever had. I believe it may have been caused by having to wear the mask on the aeroplane. I used 20+ sickbags and felt better during the last hour (vomited for 4 hours, 5th hour was better).
I felt really bad but after I started vomiting I couldn't physically put my mask on because I couldn't breath and it made me gag. The air stewards were furiously coming and telling me to put my mask on every 5-10 mins. I had tears in my eyes during all of this and to be honest I can't comprehend how little compassion they had. They kept coming until I firmly said I would be putting my mask on when I felt better. I was keeping my distance from everyone and had no one sitting in front of me, behind or next to me (apart from my children). I didn't have a fever and it had I had been checked before boarding the plane. AIBU to think there was no reason to harrass me while I was throwing up with my face in a bag? Are you scared of people who don't wear masks? Would you go up to someone ill and tell them to put their mask on?

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TinySleepThief · 23/07/2020 18:48

@shamalidacdak

YABVU for flying during a pandemic
I didn't realise we were no longer allowed to fly, clearly another memo I missed... Hmm
GreytExpectations · 23/07/2020 18:48

Also once again I would like to point out masks are not mandatory for everyone, there are exemptions. (Although it feels like talking to a brick wall when this is pounted out).

Quite. It seems like very other person and their uncle have some kind of "exemption". Typical entitled people thinking rules don't apply to them because they are special. God forbid we actually do something to help the population.

MaxNormal · 23/07/2020 18:49

mathanxiety I'm so glad you know everything about me and my life and feel able to make that judgement.

MaxNormal · 23/07/2020 18:50

To be honest, given the attitudes of a great many of you, I feel less and less inclined to behave in a way that minimises risk to any of you.

mathanxiety · 23/07/2020 18:50

@SockYarn
OP had travel sickness. When you're being sick, in an aircraft, there's precious little you can do. All the hindsight about how she should have taken tablets, or should have done X or Z doesn't help when you're in that aircraft, trying to look after two children and puking. Miserable.
What nonsense.

If you know you are likely to have travel sickness - and the OP knew she was likely to have travel sickness - then don't plan on traveling alone with small children. Or take the tablets to prevent sickness. Her misery was the result of her own inexplicable refusal to take any responsibility for herself, in complete disregard for her children's safety as well as lack of consideration for the safety of everyone else on the plane. She deserves no sympathy whatsoever.

Did she give any thought to what would happen to her children if she were to become incapacitated and unable to be able to care for them?
Has she given any thought to what her children went through? They saw their mother puking for four hours during which she couldn't possibly have attended to their needs.

One of them had to sit on a loo floor because she hadn't taken covid into account when making travel plans and hadn't checked with the airline to make sure someone could watch the children while she went to the loo.

The OP took a grossly irresponsible decision and now posts in a state of high dudgeon expecting sympathy Hmm.

And she doesn't have Covid so she couldn't have infected anyone with anything. I would imagine that something like 99.9% of people who cough don't have Covid, people who puke don't have Covid, people who have a whole host of other symptoms don't have Covid either because there are hundreds and thousands of other reasons why people might be sick.
She doesn't know if she has covid.
Fixed that for ya.

A very high proportion of cases are asymptomatic.

Anyway. A lot of people are using Covid as an excuse to behave like total dicks
Covid seems to have brought out the inner superiority complex in a lot of people and the tendency to engage in vacuous virtue signalling.

Why does it matter why OP was flying? She is perfectly entitled to do so. No laws about leaving the country, or going to another country. She doesn't need to justify the flight to randomers on MN.
Because she was flying during a global pandemic on a plane in which passengers are distanced for a very good reason, and she decided for reasons that are not clear at all to undertake the trip, alone with children, despite not taking anti-sickness to ward off predictable vomiting, which involves spewing body fluids into an enclosed airspace. Even without the virus as the context of her flight, she should have made a different decision about travel sickness medication because she was in sole charge of two small children. In the context of covid, her decision, unless it involved vital travel, was grossly irresponsible to all the other occupants of the plane.

OP I hope that if you're on a return flight that you get a nicer flight crew.
I hope that she will take the bloody travel sickness tablets and spare her fellow passengers and the people who must work on her plane the misery of four hours of vomiting. And she needs to remember her responsibility to her children too.

PablosHoney · 23/07/2020 18:51

Fucks sake 😂😂

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 23/07/2020 18:51

[quote AmiSpan]@Hearhoovesthinkzebras why are you being so rude? I wore my mask the full time and was expressing amazement at the cheek of some people at trying to get around the rules.[/quote]
You wrote this

There were quite a few people around us who made eating a bag of crisps last two hours! 😂😂

The two crying with laughter faces led me to believe you thought it was funny

PablosHoney · 23/07/2020 18:54

Funny that they’d go to such lengths is how I would read that.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 23/07/2020 18:55

@PablosHoney

She was wearing a mask Hooves 🤨 she took it off to vomit copiously, not sure what part of that isn’t clear.
Clear about what?

My issue with op isn't particularly about the mask. It's about her vomiting twenty times which is an aerosolising process, something that could have been avoided by taking some medication. If she had Covid she has put every other passenger on the plane in risk and I don't think that's acceptable.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 23/07/2020 18:55

From the OP

I believe it may have been caused by having to wear the mask on the aeroplane

So all those posting about " you shouldn't have travelled Op" " You were selfish and entitled Op", let me ask you a question......when you get on a plane with a mask on for the first time, can you absolutely 100% guarantee that you won't feel ill due to wearing one (as the OP states that she believes that's what triggered her)?

PablosHoney · 23/07/2020 18:59

I was referring to this

GreytExpectations · 23/07/2020 18:59

@MaxNormal

To be honest, given the attitudes of a great many of you, I feel less and less inclined to behave in a way that minimises risk to any of you.
What a lovely person you are. People like you are exactly why we are in such a worse case with covid than other countries. Funny how loads of countries have managed mandatory masks without this much of a fuss.
FizzAfterSix · 23/07/2020 19:00

YANBU. Jeez. Only on Mumsnet.

mathanxiety · 23/07/2020 19:00

Why am I not surprised that you would make such a callous and awful statement, MaxNormal ?

Maybe the term 'mask fascist' was the giveaway? Why am I not surprised that someone who uses this term would demonstrate so little care for the welfare of others?

I have no time for selfish ignorance on the topic of masks. They have been proven to protect people from this deadly virus. I am utterly dismayed that there are people out there with a bee in their bonnet about masks - people who hurl offensive insults at those who understand the importance of wearing them, who are conscientious about protecting their fellow human beings, and who honestly believed up to this point that the vast majority of people would make an effort to protect others if the need arose.

PablosHoney · 23/07/2020 19:01

Well clearly I don’t k ow how to copy and paste but it was a reply to the crap you were spouting about posting it on a thread about mask exempt people being lumped in with mask refusers and the OP is not saying they are a mask refuser.

Autviaminveniamautfaciam · 23/07/2020 19:01

This is why I am not going on holiday until all this madness passes. It's not because of a vomiting passenger, but because of the self appointed Covid police who are on the hunt for someone to kick when they are down. They will all be out tomorrow looking for people to berate (ideally single mums with toddlers in prams or anyone over 90) who have forgotten their mask, even though they don't need anything from the shops.

Personally I would have asked the OP if they needed help and told the air hostess to stop being such a jobs worth.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 23/07/2020 19:02

Can you explain how wearing a surgical mask on an aeroplane can cause travel sickness?

KarenKarendson · 23/07/2020 19:02

Sounds dreadful op. I feel for you. I would think you would be exempt under those circumstances.

mathanxiety · 23/07/2020 19:02

So all those posting about " you shouldn't have travelled Op" " You were selfish and entitled Op", let me ask you a question......when you get on a plane with a mask on for the first time, can you absolutely 100% guarantee that you won't feel ill due to wearing one (as the OP states that she believes that's what triggered her)?

Maybe you missed the bit where the OP talked about her previous experiences of travel sickness, @trappedsincesundaymorn?

But she still made plans to travel in sole charge of two small children and didn't take any precaution against vomiting.

This was grossly irresponsible of her, even without the background of covid.

IceCreamSummer20 · 23/07/2020 19:03

I think being sick you will have respirated a fair amount! Sorry I didn’t mean to come out so crudely. There was nothing you could have done there to be honest. I don’t blame you or the stewards. You had an awful time, and they really do have to be seen to try and enforce this I imagine - no exceptions - as otherwise the airlines will be told not to fly.

Sounds pretty awful.

SantaClaritaDiet · 23/07/2020 19:03

@mathanxiety

Why am I not surprised that you would make such a callous and awful statement, MaxNormal ?

Maybe the term 'mask fascist' was the giveaway? Why am I not surprised that someone who uses this term would demonstrate so little care for the welfare of others?

I have no time for selfish ignorance on the topic of masks. They have been proven to protect people from this deadly virus. I am utterly dismayed that there are people out there with a bee in their bonnet about masks - people who hurl offensive insults at those who understand the importance of wearing them, who are conscientious about protecting their fellow human beings, and who honestly believed up to this point that the vast majority of people would make an effort to protect others if the need arose.

I would agree with you

if your previous post wasn't so judgmental and unreasonable about the OP flying in the first place.

And your complete lack of comprehension about travel sickness and what it feels like.

GreytExpectations · 23/07/2020 19:04

It's funny, seems the people making the most fuss over masks are those who want to find any excuse not to wear them. This isn't the same as when people left their homes too frequently during lockdown, if you don't wear a mask in a shop or public transport you are a huge health risk to everyone else. Maybe have compassion for others and follow the damn rules otherwise we will never be over this.

MaxNormal · 23/07/2020 19:04

@GreytExpectations I have done everything that has been asked of me during this pandemic to date, to keep others safe and miminise the spread of the virus. Up to and including losing a full year's household income.

But I have had an absolute gutfull of the santimony from people who clearly don't give a flying fuck about other human being, given how they've gleefully berated the OP, and are just using the covid issue as an excuse to bring the full force of their judgement and sanctimony on the world around them.
Luckily, as I can't tell from simply looking at someone that they have the kind of personality that would have been beloved by the Stasi, I'll continue to be as careful and considerate as previously.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 23/07/2020 19:05

@PablosHoney

Well clearly I don’t k ow how to copy and paste but it was a reply to the crap you were spouting about posting it on a thread about mask exempt people being lumped in with mask refusers and the OP is not saying they are a mask refuser.
No, that was to the poster laughing about fellow passengers on a flight not wearing masks and taking two hours to eat a packet of crisps in order to avoid wearing a mask.
PablosHoney · 23/07/2020 19:05

So she’s an irresponsible mum now as well as a super spreader, jeezus.

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