Urgent DH refused Annual Leave for next 2 weeks.

[booboo57]

Works starts on house on Monday. Two weeks leave requested over a month ago. Just got message that next week is full so cant have it off. Make a fuss or just call in sick?
He a trainer but since Covid he's been working nights which he hates. He was in tears with the stress of it all. Dont know what to advise.

@Bahhhhhumbug @Arkenfield3001 and @Oscarsdaddy had you bothered to bloody RTFT that was started yesterday you'd understand why your comments are unhelpful and rude

@AldiAisleofCrap

@ *@booboo57*HGV 1 s are like gold dust round here. Could probably walk into job tomorrow. Company has 3 vacancies at moment. Something being “like gold dust” means it is rare , so the opposite of what you said.

She means the qualified drivers? And even if she had got it wrong (which she didn’t, you did) how is it helpful to point it out to somebody that’s already upset about something else?

@Debbacat6 have you any idea how toxic you sound? 'Man up' to someone stressed by 4 months of nights through lockdown? You should be ashamed of yourself.

@Debbacat6 - just fuck off, there’s only a couple of other people on MN thick enough to share your view, but less would still be good.

What is an acceptable notice period for booking leave where you work

A month is the legal minimum for booking two weeks off, By The Way.

Hope he got it all sorted Op :)

@BubblyBarbara that’s not true.

Unfortunately if it's full.. it's full. Holidays should be requested as far in advance as you can. And I know that most companies would know that calling in sick when you asked for two weeks off is fake and there could be disciplinary consequences.

Could he not go off with stress?

I'm glad this situation has brought to ahead how stressed he is. Working nights is notorious for messing for your head and being in charge of such a large vehicle it is really important that he is feeling well in himself. I hope the break gives him the breathing space to assess whether his future is with this company and that the rest leaves him feeling much better. Good luck to you both. X

The information below on an employer cancelling Holiday is from Acas
It might be an idea to get your DH to talk to his employer and see if they can come to an arrangement.
Do remember that in this current climate jobs are difficult to come by....
Best wishes and good luck!

‘Employers can also cancel pre-booked paid holiday. If they decide to do this, they must give staff at least the same number of days' notice as the original holiday request.

For example, if an employee has booked 5 days holiday, the employer must tell them at least 5 days before the holiday starts that it's cancelled. This could affect holiday staff have already booked or planned and cause upset.
So employers should: explain clearly why they need to do this
try and resolve anyone's worries about how it will affect their holiday entitlement or plans’.

He should raise a grievance and put his complaint in writing if he thinks he has been treated unfairly. Mgt can decline leave requests as it has to fit in with business need.
If he goes off sick with stress he will need a GP fit note after 7 days absence.
I would advise ringing the line manager to say unhappy with length of time taken to come back with a reply and is feeling under valued by the company and what compromise if possible can be agreed in terms of leave and confirmation date in writing of day shift commencement.

Tears????

Jackprep That information isn’t relevant here as OP’s DH’s leave was never approved.

Im struggling to get this post. Why was he crying?

@Jeeperscreepers69 because of a culmination of stress and work - not beyond the realms of possibility. How does posting "tears????" possibly help to reduce stigma of men talking about stress and distress?
@Debbacat6 - I've reported your post too - why the mocking over a man displaying an emotional response to stress?

If people read the thread properly it’s clear to see he isn’t crying just because of A/L. It goes far deeper. I was bullied by a boss once so bad I got to my front door once and broke down and never went back. As people make men feel like they aren’t allowed to open up, who knows what’s going on in his workplace aside from this?

I wouldn’t want to drive all night exhausted and stressed when I can’t sleep in the day. He could kill himself never mind anyone else. Can’t believe some of these comments.

If it was signed off the amount of notice to retract the leave would have to be the same amount of days that was agreed. But they didn't approve it. I'd only communicate with them via email and stress his tiredness etc.

HGV drivers are not exactly ten-a-penny. He’ll always find work. This employer should treat him better if they want to retain him!

I think people may be missing a key point that the DH is stressed? Thats more important than £ IMHO

Though someone does have a useful suggestion about whether you can defer the builders?

Requesting leave 1 month in advance is entirely contextual and not unusual, depends entirely on the sector. I'm also interested to know it took the employer nearly 1 month to respond to the request - hardly best practice?

That’s so hard for you both, but really In these times I would not call in sick , or complain at all a job is the most important
Thing , we are in for a long haul the economy is going to be screwed for a long time , breath , meditate anything clam yourselves best you can. Feel blessed he has a job and
Do it with grace and be grateful whatever else you are luckier than many ..good luck

@Jeeperscreepers69 Oh! So your excessive use of question marks after 'tears' was indicating the strength of your desire to understand why he was crying, not in anyway an indication of incredulity or mocking? Glad we have cleared that up. Debbacat was reported by several posters and MNHQ agreed that their post fell foul of TG....

OP..your last update sounds good. Employer seems at least to be listening and glad union are involved. Glad he’s opened up to you too. Hope all gets resolved.