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Urgent DH refused Annual Leave for next 2 weeks.

269 replies

booboo57 · 21/07/2020 08:11

Works starts on house on Monday. Two weeks leave requested over a month ago. Just got message that next week is full so cant have it off. Make a fuss or just call in sick?
He a trainer but since Covid he's been working nights which he hates. He was in tears with the stress of it all. Dont know what to advise.

OP posts:
DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon · 22/07/2020 19:59

Im going to hazard a guess that he was crying because he is incredibly tired and stressed after working nights for 4 months, has barely seen his wife and thought he was about to get a break, however he has just found out that he is not getting the break he needs.

I mean its hardly rocket science to work out why someone might be upset in that situation ffs.

I think his employer has behaved really poorly, they have every right not to approve his leave but to leave it dangling for a month, then decline it less than a week before is shitty behaviour. Yes its august, yes he didnt give masses of notice, but say no at the time to give him some time to sort out a different time for leave.

Baileyscheesecake · 22/07/2020 20:03

He could trying to talk to his GP. Don’t mention the holiday having been denied but talk about how stressed he is, how he broke down in tears, how important it is in his job that he feels able to cope for his safety and safety of others and that he feels he is on verge of having a breakdown. They might sign him off sick. It’s worth a try!

Gintime74 · 22/07/2020 20:04

We have to book our leave months in advance. Usually book August in January , unless it’s the odd day which may get approved if staffing ok, one months notice is hardly anything. Maybe see if anyone can swap leave with him, some may have had holidays cancelled?

Gintime74 · 22/07/2020 20:07

Sorry, just read your update. Glad it’s getting sorted.

SnackSizeRaisin · 22/07/2020 20:08

The employer should not have been stringing him along for a whole month. He sounds like he urgently needs to come off nights. Anyone who hasn't worked long night shifts has no idea what it can do to your mental and physical health. I would speak to the union rep and if necessary get signed off sick.

Jeeperscreepers69 · 22/07/2020 20:23

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DameFanny · 22/07/2020 20:44

When you've made a dick of yourself @Jeeperscreepers69, doubling down on it rarely gets people thinking well of you

honeygirlz · 22/07/2020 20:55

School holidays have started, the 12yos are out Grin

cherish123 · 22/07/2020 21:02

Sorry not read the thread. Could you take time off instead?

WaterOffADucksCrack · 22/07/2020 21:17

Feel blessed he has a job and do it with grace and be grateful whatever else you are luckier than many Sorry but I don't think this is helpful in this case. It's basically saying we have to accept being treated like dirt by our employers and bowing to them for employing you. I agree with looking at the positive side and feeling thankful for having what you have (in our case very little) but not for using terms like "blessed" when you work hard for what you have.

CrimsonCattery · 22/07/2020 21:21

FFS @cherish123 why even bother commenting? Incredibly unhelpful.

Jeeperscreepers69 · 22/07/2020 21:24

@damefanny. Love a bit of doubling down on it 😴😴😴

Ellisandra · 22/07/2020 21:31

@CrimsonCattery I’m actually genuinely interested if @cherish123 responds to you!
Why would you come onto a 10 page thread and say that?! Confused

DameFanny · 22/07/2020 21:39

@Jeeperscreepers69 that's nice dear

caringcarer · 22/07/2020 22:24

Can he sleep somewhere else why building is going on?

Bahhhhhumbug · 22/07/2020 22:26

DameFanny So you're picking out several posters whom you have decided are rude and unhelpful and assuming none of us have RTFT. You have picked out the ones who have asked the significance of the builders wrt the Op's 'dilemma'. Well l for one have RTFT ( can't speak for your other targets obv.) and like many other posters who have asked repeatedly what's the specific problem with the builders coming am just wondering what that problem is. Is it wanting to be on site to supervise, is it fact Op's DH can't sleep when builders there or what? Not an unreasonable question and certainly not 'rude and unhelpful' considering the Op's original post was basically 'Urgent' builders are coming and DH refused leave and then ever since refuses answer any builder related query.

SoupDragon · 22/07/2020 22:29

DameFanny So you're picking out several posters whom you have decided are rude and unhelpful

And don't appear to have said anything helpful at all, just complained about other posters.

Jeeperscreepers69 · 22/07/2020 23:20

@soupdragon. Haha we meet again hun x

Jeeperscreepers69 · 22/07/2020 23:21

Thanks @damefanny. Your so helpful and wise

Russ2017 · 22/07/2020 23:36

This might help but I’m confused why your husband works nights as a trainer ? Does he train online across the world ? www.landaulaw.co.uk/holidays/

Ellisandra · 22/07/2020 23:39

@Russ2017 read the OP’s posts.
Her husband is not training at the moment, but driving nights instead - that’s pretty much the cause of the whole situation, so it really is worth reading the OP’s posts.

MrsDrudge · 22/07/2020 23:48

It seems you and your DH have got it sorted. I hope you are both feeling better.
Sorry there are some unthinking people on here who made the situation worse.

SydneyMamma · 23/07/2020 00:45

@pandafunfactory

Well if it's full he can't have it. A month isn't much notice.

It depends on the size of the company and the department you work in as well as the type of work i.e. how many people are required to run the department/provide the service. A month isn't much notice for many of the companies I worked for in the past as I worked in big teams and we had to book annual leave months before, especially for those of with children and who wanted/needed school holiday dates.

I now work in a much smaller team and don't have to give anywhere near as much notice.

Isthisreallylife · 23/07/2020 01:30

This is certainly not the first time that I’ve noticed many MUMSNETTERS making selfish, vindictive, sarcastic and completely unhelpful if not downright nasty responses - but it will be the last!
Not only cannot stand the negativity of this site in my life, I really don’t want to be associated with such critical, do gooding, vicious bigots.
GOODBYE

BubblyBarbara · 23/07/2020 08:49

@BubblyBarbara that’s not true.”

It says on gov.uk..

“The general notice period for taking leave is at least twice as long as the amount of leave a worker wants to take (for example 2 days’ notice for 1 day’s leave), unless the contract says something different.”

That’s therefore the legal minimum even if a contract can put that aside