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AIBU Should I ditch 20 year friendship over this?

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Feelingsupersonic1 · 19/07/2020 23:10

Friends for over 20 years, met at primary school and were best friends through high school. She was my bridesmaid and we were there for each other when our mums both passed away when we were young. Been through a lot together in younger years. Haven’t seen each other much the last few years due to lives being busy with work and kids but stayed in touch via messages and met up couple of times a year.

Pre lockdown - had my other very close friends 30th birthday night out at nearby city - drinks then a gig - so my friend of 20yrs offered to book a mini bus for the group of us to come home.

My husbands brother died the week before the night out he so didn’t feel up to going - I still wanted to go to be there for friends special birthday but we were now under financial pressure as had to pay for funeral as brother had no money and no life insurance so we were having to cover funeral costs.

I had already pre paid our seats on the bus and gig ticket the month before so decided to go and not drink to save spending more money.

Sent message to friend who booked bus to ask if there were spaces on bus coming back. She said yes and asked who it was for. I didn’t reply immediately as didn’t have set person in mind and planned to reply once I had scoped out on social media if anyone else I knew in my wider circle was going to the gig (pre kids we used to go to lots of gigs so lots of friends on FB who could poss also have been planning to be at gig that night). My thinking was I could get the money back for hubby’s gig ticket and seat on bus if someone I knew wanted to go.

Put post on my FB page and a couple of hours later friend of 20yrs (who has never been on FB and has no social media accounts ) sent me really aggressive message saying I was out of order inviting random people onto the minibus without asking her and that just because it is someone I know doesn’t mean that everyone else is okay with them coming on the bus.

She said I have never to pull that sh*t again and she said she is livid with me but doesn’t want to fall out about it. She was angry I didn’t reply to her message about who the space on the bus was for (I was going to reply once I had a better idea of if someone could fill the seat). She said sorry if she sounds harsh but she is really pissed off.

I suffer from bad anxiety and have had bouts of depression following two miscarriages in the last few years and don’t cope well with confrontation, so despite not feeling like what I had done was actually anything wrong I messaged her to say I was sorry for upsetting her.

She responded by saying she is astounded that I can’t see that it makes me look like I don’t consider friends better than people on Facebook and that she is infuriated.

I spent day of best pals 30th feeling physically sick with worry about seeing friend who had booked bus that evening incase she had a go at me. When I arrived to meet the group of friends she didn’t turn up and text our other friend to say her child was sick.

Had very minimal contact since and wondering if I should make the effort to try and reach out and rebuild friendship or if I should just leave it. We have been through so much in past I don’t want to leave it like this but feel like she was overreacting about the situation.

Spoke to other friends on the night out to ask if I was out of order for seeing if could fill hubby’s space in bus and no one else could see an issue with it - but I don’t know if they were trying to make me feel better as I was in a bit of a state worrying about it at the time.

Should I make an effort to sort things out?

OP posts:
MRex · 19/07/2020 23:14

It isn't clear if she knew about your BIL dying or not; for me that would be the difference between no further contact (if she knew) or waiting for an apology for her bad behaviour (if she didn't).

Feelingsupersonic1 · 19/07/2020 23:20

She did know about death in family and said “I know you have a lot going on at the moment but I couldn’t let it go just too p*ssed off.

OP posts:
OhCaptain · 19/07/2020 23:23

It sounds like an extreme reaction.

Do you mean that you were looking for someone to take your dh's ticket, and friend was annoyed because you were asking people on FB if anyone wanted it?

Alexindiamondarmour · 19/07/2020 23:25

I’m sorry OP but I think you were being unreasonable in this situation. She organized the mini bus, you could have contacted her and said look money is tight, is there anyone else wanting to go so I can get DH’s seat refunded?

I would be pretty annoyed if I had organized a mini bus of a group of people and then one of those people started treating it like a random taxi service, without even speaking to me first about their situation.

As to her cancelling on the night and then not speaking to you again, I’m not sure what’s going on there. Is it possible, and I’m asking gently, that this is like the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back? Could she have been upset with you for other things and you haven’t realized?

pennysea · 19/07/2020 23:30

I think your friends reaction was OTT! Even from reading your post I don't understand why she would be upset that you asked around on FB if another friend wanted the ticket. It would be strange if you didn't do that. Especially considering money was tight for you at that time.

Does she usually get upset over small things?

From what you said it sounds like she threw all
Her toys out the pram by not even going to the gig.

CoRhona · 19/07/2020 23:32

Agree with @Alexindiamondarmour, it did look as if you were inviting the public. You should have told her what you were doing.

newyearnoeu · 19/07/2020 23:37

Um I can see where she's coming from, sorry. Your post is unclear-first of all you suggest that you only asked on fb if someone was already going to the gig and might want a lift back, which is cheeky enough to have a random in a bus full of friends....but then you also say you were hoping to make the money back on your husbands gig ticket as well as his bus seat....so that reads more as though you were trying to sell the ticket too. If that's the case did you even mention to the birthday friend that you were planning on inviting some complete random(to her) along for the whole of her 30th birthday? Because that would be really unreasonable and perhaps bus friend was the only one prepared to say so.

Even if you were only planning on sorting the bus place, I don't see why you couldn't have just replied to her saying (or even better asking her first) what you were doing rather than completely ignoring her. Perhaps she or someone else already going had someone that could have taken the space if you'd only asked?

Personally if you had been upfront about it I wouldn't have had an issue but just taking over without even mentioning it is rude....she was probably thibking if you had got some random to come she as the organiser would have to be the one to sort it if they were late in the night and everyone else was ready to leave, or if they had got drunk and thrown up everywhere on the bus, or whatever. Plus again it's your other friends birthday and having ten mates and then just some random there to save you the cost of a tenner or whatever is rude and will change the atmosphere....

Really quite a strange and entitled thing to do on your behalf tbh!

AramintaLee · 19/07/2020 23:37

She sounds rather unhinged. I would have been pleased that you were looking for someone to take the seat instead of letting it go empty or expecting me to find someone to fill it.

Also the fact she knew what had happened to your BIL but still decided to have a go at you over it... she's very insensitive.

Ponoka7 · 19/07/2020 23:42

I don't understand why you didn't tell her that you were trying to sell your DH's place and I think she's got a point.

ShyTown · 19/07/2020 23:48

Being aggressive was uncalled and cancelling on the night, presuming the sick child was an excuse, was way OTT. However, she organised transport for a group of friends and it wasn’t your place to offer it out like a taxi service on Facebook. Having a random there that no one else knows does change the vibe and it sounds like you would have allowed any old person you have on Facebook to join your best friends birthday if it would have saved you a few quid. And you also ignored her text and didn’t discuss it. Tbh it sounds like you both owe each other an apology.

DazzleCamouflage · 19/07/2020 23:48

I can see her point, even if she got unnecessarily outraged about it. Why didn’t you tell her what you were planning to do and why?

AllosaurusMum · 19/07/2020 23:50

I agree with your friend. I don’t think it’s acceptable at all to invite a random person along to a group event but especially not a birthday celebration.

newyearnoeu · 19/07/2020 23:54

Also, the fact that she isn't on Facebook yet found out about your post within a few hours means someone must have told her - which suggests that someone else in the party group found what you were doing a bit odd, too.

Although in fairness while i think you were wrong originally, once youd apologised she was v u to not graciously accept and move on, and then to let birthday friend down.

GreenTulips · 19/07/2020 23:54

What’s wrong with expanding your friendship group? Mine extra person because OPs BIL died? It was a concert not an AA meeting!!

What happened to kindness and acceptance? One night!!

Herja · 20/07/2020 00:02

I think that you were unreasonable to try and sell on the ticket (which it seems was what you were trying to do, just to a friend?) including on the bus, without discussing it with the others going on the mini bus.

I think that how she dealt with it, as a friend of 20 years, and knowing about your family's grief, was utterly shit. If one of my childhood friends did that there is no way on earth I'd be extending an olive branch or apologising.

verypeckish · 20/07/2020 00:02

So your DH couldn't go to the concert or use the seat on the bus because his brother had died, and this friend of yours got mad at you for trying to find another friend to go with you and use the tickets instead so they wouldn't go to waste?

Bloody hell. She was the unreasonable one here. It's not as if you were trying to sell the ticket to a random stranger, you were just asking your wider circle of friends.

Don't bother with her any more.

MadameMeursault · 20/07/2020 00:03

I can’t believe some of these replies. OP your friend was completely unreasonable, OTT and really vile to you. I can’t believe you apologised. She knew about BIL’s death and still had a go at you about an extremely petty situation. If I were you I would find it very hard to forgive that. I’m sorry for your BIL’s death and I’m sorry your friend is so shit. As far as I’m concerned with a night out like that it’d be the more the merrier. She really needs to lighten up and try to recognise what’s important in life.

Colom · 20/07/2020 00:18

I do think you should have mentioned it to her first before you put it on Facebook, it would have been the polite thing to do. That said, her reaction was way OTT especially considering the circumstances. She should have accepted your apology and not continued to make a mountain out of it.

I'm just wondering if perhaps you have done things in the past that she hasn't addressed and this brought it to boiling point? She was still very rude though. I'd leave it be and let her reach out if she feels like it.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 20/07/2020 00:25

"" really aggressive message saying I was out of order inviting random people ... without asking her and that just because it is someone I know doesn’t mean that everyone else is okay with them coming on the bus...She said I have never to pull that sh*t again and she said she is livid with me but doesn’t want to fall out about it."

All that fuss over trying to sell on a ticket for someone who couldn't go. As if people dropping out of events doesn't happen all the time and people try to fill the space. Its hardly the end of the world.

"never pull that sh** again"? What way is that to speak to anyone. Does she think she's in charge of you or something? So utterly rude and unkind.

The Friend could just as easily have said, "I hear you need to sell your ticket and also a place on the bus, I am sorry but I am not happy about selling a place on the bus to a stranger." That would have been clear and to the point.
You could perhaps have explained a bit better up front but given the personal circumstances at the time, that is understandable.
Also the way she carried on berating you even after you apologised is just beyond. And then didn't turn up anyway.
Your other friends think she was out of order. Please dont' apologise to this woman again.

Jamestown · 20/07/2020 00:30

I am surprised that you went for the night out and didn't stay at home with your husband to support him in his grief over his brother. You treated your friends badly too, both the birthday girl and the friend who arranged the bus, by trying to impose a random on them both. You are a selfish friend and a very unsupportive wife.

wheretonow123 · 20/07/2020 00:53

@Feelingsupersonic1, based on what you described I think that your friend could have handled it an awful lot better.

If it was me I think I would let said friend make the next move in the relationship as she seemed too behave OTT over what seemed to have been a slight mistake you made in very difficult circumstances.

Coyoacan · 20/07/2020 00:59

I don't know the rights and wrongs of this but am interested to see that some people can see it from your friend's point of view.

In the grand scheme of things this is a very petty issue to lose a friendship over and sometimes it is better to say sorry to rescue a friendship than to lose that friendship.

shereebobbins · 20/07/2020 01:17

My group of friends would expect me to bring someone else in that situation, and, if I couldn't find anyone, one of them would find someone.
It happens all the time if someone has to drop out of a planned event of ours.
Some people are just weird.

ttim985y · 20/07/2020 01:26

sorry but I agree with her

HannaYeah · 20/07/2020 01:27

Wait, your DH couldn’t go so you reached out to other friends via FB to see if anyone would take his ticket and ride the bus back with you? Essentially checking to see if someone you knew wanted to purchase his ticket go along?

Then she hears via a gossip about your FB post and loses her ever-loving mind, rather then just asking you what you were planning first?

Her reaction was ridiculous and cruel.

I don’t think I’d reach out to her for now. Maybe later. But I’d need time to cool off.

(I’m being nice here. My inclination would be to tell her off. “Oh you’re mad? Guess what! I’m even madder!”)