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AIBU Should I ditch 20 year friendship over this?

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Feelingsupersonic1 · 19/07/2020 23:10

Friends for over 20 years, met at primary school and were best friends through high school. She was my bridesmaid and we were there for each other when our mums both passed away when we were young. Been through a lot together in younger years. Haven’t seen each other much the last few years due to lives being busy with work and kids but stayed in touch via messages and met up couple of times a year.

Pre lockdown - had my other very close friends 30th birthday night out at nearby city - drinks then a gig - so my friend of 20yrs offered to book a mini bus for the group of us to come home.

My husbands brother died the week before the night out he so didn’t feel up to going - I still wanted to go to be there for friends special birthday but we were now under financial pressure as had to pay for funeral as brother had no money and no life insurance so we were having to cover funeral costs.

I had already pre paid our seats on the bus and gig ticket the month before so decided to go and not drink to save spending more money.

Sent message to friend who booked bus to ask if there were spaces on bus coming back. She said yes and asked who it was for. I didn’t reply immediately as didn’t have set person in mind and planned to reply once I had scoped out on social media if anyone else I knew in my wider circle was going to the gig (pre kids we used to go to lots of gigs so lots of friends on FB who could poss also have been planning to be at gig that night). My thinking was I could get the money back for hubby’s gig ticket and seat on bus if someone I knew wanted to go.

Put post on my FB page and a couple of hours later friend of 20yrs (who has never been on FB and has no social media accounts ) sent me really aggressive message saying I was out of order inviting random people onto the minibus without asking her and that just because it is someone I know doesn’t mean that everyone else is okay with them coming on the bus.

She said I have never to pull that sh*t again and she said she is livid with me but doesn’t want to fall out about it. She was angry I didn’t reply to her message about who the space on the bus was for (I was going to reply once I had a better idea of if someone could fill the seat). She said sorry if she sounds harsh but she is really pissed off.

I suffer from bad anxiety and have had bouts of depression following two miscarriages in the last few years and don’t cope well with confrontation, so despite not feeling like what I had done was actually anything wrong I messaged her to say I was sorry for upsetting her.

She responded by saying she is astounded that I can’t see that it makes me look like I don’t consider friends better than people on Facebook and that she is infuriated.

I spent day of best pals 30th feeling physically sick with worry about seeing friend who had booked bus that evening incase she had a go at me. When I arrived to meet the group of friends she didn’t turn up and text our other friend to say her child was sick.

Had very minimal contact since and wondering if I should make the effort to try and reach out and rebuild friendship or if I should just leave it. We have been through so much in past I don’t want to leave it like this but feel like she was overreacting about the situation.

Spoke to other friends on the night out to ask if I was out of order for seeing if could fill hubby’s space in bus and no one else could see an issue with it - but I don’t know if they were trying to make me feel better as I was in a bit of a state worrying about it at the time.

Should I make an effort to sort things out?

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MrsNoah2020 · 20/07/2020 08:09

It's a frigging nightmare organising a minibus for this sort of event. She has probably had a load of hassle over it, and this was the final straw.

Having said that, she massively over-reacted - unless you have form for doing this sort of thing in the past? Is she always the one who ends up organising, and you are the flakey friend who makes last minute changes? I don't blame you for wanting to cover the cost of your DH's ticket but, if you have a history of messing people around, that might explain her reaction.

Ponoka7 · 20/07/2020 08:13

@GreenTulips, there's nothing wrong with expanding a friendship group on a normal night out. But you don't invite randoms to someone else's milestone birthday celebration. The OP should have explained the situation and got other people's opions on it.

MyTearsAreOnFire · 20/07/2020 08:14

You both sound as bad as each other. And dramatic and fussy. Like sisters Wink

I think you’d regret falling out with her. I recommend some chill time just the two of you, to chat and admit you’re both numpties.

Don’t lose good people for something so petty Flowers

Piffle11 · 20/07/2020 08:20

With hindsight, perhaps you should have mentioned to the other people going that there would be a spare place, and if they know anyone closer than a Facebook friend who may want to fill it… But the way your friend reacted was completely unreasonable. She always like this with you? I would be walking on eggshells constantly dealing with someone like that. I really don’t understand why she thinks she can talk to you this way. I think if this is how she normally behave with you, this is a bit of an unhealthy relationship and you’re best off out of it. I think if you try and reach out now, it’s going to make her think that speaking to you this way is okay. It isn’t.

Feelingsupersonic1 · 20/07/2020 08:36

I didn’t know what size bus she was getting but ended up being bus was for 16 people and only 7 people ended up coming back in it.

In the group chat about the mini bus before the night out one of the other couples going had asked if her sister (who none of us know) could come and friend who booked bus said yes so I didn’t imagine it would have been such an issue as it turned out to be.

OP posts:
Feelingsupersonic1 · 20/07/2020 08:39

@Piffle11

With hindsight, perhaps you should have mentioned to the other people going that there would be a spare place, and if they know anyone closer than a Facebook friend who may want to fill it… But the way your friend reacted was completely unreasonable. She always like this with you? I would be walking on eggshells constantly dealing with someone like that. I really don’t understand why she thinks she can talk to you this way. I think if this is how she normally behave with you, this is a bit of an unhealthy relationship and you’re best off out of it. I think if you try and reach out now, it’s going to make her think that speaking to you this way is okay. It isn’t.
She can be quite abrupt with people.
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MaxNormal · 20/07/2020 08:47

Is this how many of you live your lives? So full of spite and self importance that you'll aggressively attack a friend for a perceived transgression, and without the compassion to realise the impact of a major bereavement?
If my DH had just lost a sibling it would be a huge tragedy and upheaval. OP I'm sorry for your loss.

Feelingsupersonic1 · 20/07/2020 08:47

I wasn’t planning on inviting person who took bus ticket to come on birthday night out just the transport. Birthday girl wasn’t going to be on bus there or back as staying in a hotel for night

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JaaniGoGo · 20/07/2020 08:51

I think she had a point but her reaction was way ott. She could have just talked to you and said she wasn’t comfortable with you reselling the ticket on Facebook. It didn’t need to become an issue. Just send her a message to break the ice and put it behind you. It’s not something worth ending a 20 year friendship for.

Tappering · 20/07/2020 08:55

Your friend asked her if it would be OK if her sister could come. You, on the other hand, didn't ask her if it was OK to do what you did. This was despite the fact that you had an opportunity to do so, because she queried who you wanted to put in the seat. I'm not surprised she was annoyed.

curiousierandcouriser · 20/07/2020 08:55

In the group chat about the mini bus before the night out one of the other couples going had asked if her sister (who none of us know) could come and friend who booked bus said yes so I didn’t imagine it would have been such an issue as it turned out to be.

I think the difference here is that the friend asked the organizer first.

Your friend's response was still OTT though.

Sunnysidegold · 20/07/2020 08:59

I thi k that you should have run your idea of what to do past her as the organiser. You said the person was just to get the bus, not go on the night out, maybe she thought you were getting them to tag along for the whole thing.

This does not excuse her behaviour towards you however.

Sometimes we can let stuff go because someone is an old friend and you've been through a lot together. Sometimes it can be better to take a step back from a relationship if it is causing upset. You have apologised to her and now the ball is in her court.

If you still want to salvage the friendship, id think carefully about your behaviour and think about how it could have upset her. Think about her reaction and how it made you feel. I would speak to her about it, acknowledging what she said but get your side of it across more clearly.

Sunnydayshereatlast · 20/07/2020 09:04

Cripes it was a bum on a seat - op hadn't invited some random to share a holiday villa for a fortnight...
Leave her ot her flounce op. You have enough to deal with without Miss Flouncy Pants messing with your head.

Sidewinder30 · 20/07/2020 09:11

You were in the wrong about the bus, and you should have discussed it with her. It was a birthday outing, not an Uber.

However, her reaction was OTT and rude. Friends do not speak to each other like that.

If you two are the sort who can discuss this like adults, each apologise and then move forward, then do that. Otherwise, just let the friendship go.

QuestionMarkNow · 20/07/2020 09:15

Totally unreasonable imo. And if I had been your fiend, I would have had the same reaction tbh.
The least you could have done is contact her (she organised it all after all), explain the situation with you being so short of money and ask her if she was happy about it. I doubt she would have say no tbh.

The way you went in about it, you I lose things on her (and anyone else in the party). And made it look like your friendship was just as good as a random person on Facebook.

FWIW I don’t think that the death of your BIL has anything to do with it. The issue here is the money and how little you have. Explaining that would have gone a long way.

MrsToothyBitch · 20/07/2020 09:22

I think what you did was unreasonable and a bit cheeky but her reaction was waaaaay too harsh! I'd have defaulted your DHs bus seat etc back to the organiser- your friend to deal with/direct me on.

heartsonacake · 20/07/2020 09:34

YABVU. You can’t just go inviting random strangers onto a minibus full of friends. This was an event for a group of friends. If you wanted to invite anyone else you needed to run it past them first.

You were totally out of order, and all the anxiety/depression stuff in your post is just to gain sympathy. It’s totally irrelevant. And yes, while I appreciate there was a death on the family that caused emotions to run high that is also irrelevant to this situation.

pepsicola5 · 20/07/2020 09:35

I'm in the minority however if it were my birthday, my friends BIL had just died, she was skint and needed to sell her ticket, and I had a mini bus with spare seats, I literally couldn't give a flying fuck that she invited someone else. The more the merrier. Maybe someone else who might buy me a drink Grin I'm pretty chilled though and really love the few good friends I do have.

MaxNormal · 20/07/2020 10:09

And if I had been your fiend, I would have had the same reaction tbh.

So by your own admission you'd be hugely rude and aggressive to any of your friends who dare step out of line with you and displease you? Even if they've recently had a major family bereavement?

MaxNormal · 20/07/2020 10:11

If a "friend" dared to speak to me like that, they would no longer be my friend. Its an appalling way to behave.

If you have an issue with something, apprach it politely.

If your friend has been bereaved, be there for them.

Don't be a raging narcissist.

WendyHoused · 20/07/2020 10:19

You were bang out of order to sell on the ticket and bus space for a 30th birthday celebration without checking with the birthday friend and the mini-bus friend.

It wasn’t a normal night out, it was a celebration between mates of a milestone birthday. You don’t invite strangers to that.

She may have been intemperate but you were in the wrong.

TrickorTreacle · 20/07/2020 10:53

I put YABU because you made your friend of 20 years sign up to a social media account, when really it could have been done by email or text.

AcrobaticCardigan · 20/07/2020 10:55

I think you were absolutely in the wrong to publicly try & sell tickets & bus space to your random Facebook friends without having discussed it. Not surprised she was upset!!!

newyearnoeu · 20/07/2020 10:57

OP I think you clearly just have a completely different viewpoint about this to your friend (and other people) which is demonstrated in your updates- you used the example of other friend's sister to justify your actions whereas, as other posters have pointed out, to them (and me) it actually supports bus friends POV - the two key things are other friend ASKED the whole group IN ADVANCE whereas you ignored her even when she specifically asked who the spare seat was for and then offered it out anyway, and secondly it was for other friends sister (I.e. someone she knew well and trusted) not a random from Facebook.

It just shows that people think about these things differently, in some groups of friends what you did might be seen as ok but in your group this isn't the way you do things, so your actions were unreasonable.

I also think that the fact there were seven people on a 16 seater bus could suggest bus friend had had issues with other people mucking her around too and this was the final straw....

LetsSplashMummy · 20/07/2020 11:20

I think it depends a lot on how you worded your FB post - it obviously annoyed someone else as well, who reported back to her. You do say you wondered if anyone else you knew was already going, if you said "Is anyone going to x gig, we have spare seats in a mini bus, if anyone wants DHs gig ticket as well - let me know..." then it looks like you are offering out her minibus seats, at a profit to you, taking the credit for organising, to anyone you know already going. She hadn't told you there were spare seats, she had asked who it would be for, so you jumped the gun there, which is a bit cheeky.

If you said "unfortunately DH can't go to x gig, I was wondering if anyone else would like to take his ticket and join me, pm me, don't worry about transport...." then that is different and only tangentially mentions the mini bus. Although it would have been better to offer the ticket round the birthday group first and check it was okay to ask someone else.

In principle, asking someone else to take DHs ticket is fine, but if friend is not on FB, she perhaps doesn't like the impersonal nature of social media versus real communication. She obviously sees it akin to placing an advert and very different from you thinking of a friend who might want it and asking them directly. The latter would have been a better approach, much more like someone asking their sister. Can you see that?

You handled it badly and she overreacted, but surely you can move on from it.