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AIBU Should I ditch 20 year friendship over this?

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Feelingsupersonic1 · 19/07/2020 23:10

Friends for over 20 years, met at primary school and were best friends through high school. She was my bridesmaid and we were there for each other when our mums both passed away when we were young. Been through a lot together in younger years. Haven’t seen each other much the last few years due to lives being busy with work and kids but stayed in touch via messages and met up couple of times a year.

Pre lockdown - had my other very close friends 30th birthday night out at nearby city - drinks then a gig - so my friend of 20yrs offered to book a mini bus for the group of us to come home.

My husbands brother died the week before the night out he so didn’t feel up to going - I still wanted to go to be there for friends special birthday but we were now under financial pressure as had to pay for funeral as brother had no money and no life insurance so we were having to cover funeral costs.

I had already pre paid our seats on the bus and gig ticket the month before so decided to go and not drink to save spending more money.

Sent message to friend who booked bus to ask if there were spaces on bus coming back. She said yes and asked who it was for. I didn’t reply immediately as didn’t have set person in mind and planned to reply once I had scoped out on social media if anyone else I knew in my wider circle was going to the gig (pre kids we used to go to lots of gigs so lots of friends on FB who could poss also have been planning to be at gig that night). My thinking was I could get the money back for hubby’s gig ticket and seat on bus if someone I knew wanted to go.

Put post on my FB page and a couple of hours later friend of 20yrs (who has never been on FB and has no social media accounts ) sent me really aggressive message saying I was out of order inviting random people onto the minibus without asking her and that just because it is someone I know doesn’t mean that everyone else is okay with them coming on the bus.

She said I have never to pull that sh*t again and she said she is livid with me but doesn’t want to fall out about it. She was angry I didn’t reply to her message about who the space on the bus was for (I was going to reply once I had a better idea of if someone could fill the seat). She said sorry if she sounds harsh but she is really pissed off.

I suffer from bad anxiety and have had bouts of depression following two miscarriages in the last few years and don’t cope well with confrontation, so despite not feeling like what I had done was actually anything wrong I messaged her to say I was sorry for upsetting her.

She responded by saying she is astounded that I can’t see that it makes me look like I don’t consider friends better than people on Facebook and that she is infuriated.

I spent day of best pals 30th feeling physically sick with worry about seeing friend who had booked bus that evening incase she had a go at me. When I arrived to meet the group of friends she didn’t turn up and text our other friend to say her child was sick.

Had very minimal contact since and wondering if I should make the effort to try and reach out and rebuild friendship or if I should just leave it. We have been through so much in past I don’t want to leave it like this but feel like she was overreacting about the situation.

Spoke to other friends on the night out to ask if I was out of order for seeing if could fill hubby’s space in bus and no one else could see an issue with it - but I don’t know if they were trying to make me feel better as I was in a bit of a state worrying about it at the time.

Should I make an effort to sort things out?

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Josette77 · 20/07/2020 16:22

I think you owe her an apology. You should have told her first.

Feelingsupersonic1 · 20/07/2020 16:25

Amongst my friends who all go out together more regularly (not friend who is upset with me she doesn’t go to clubbing/gigs normally) it wouldn’t be unusual for us to share a taxi home if someone going same way as us. Everyone quite relaxed and easy going about that kind of stuff.

We gave a stranger a lift home from Glastonbury in our mini bus to north of England when we saw them with a sign hitch hiking and none of them had an issue with it (friend who is upset with me Glasto not her scene she wasn’t there).

Friend who organised bus is on periphery of our group and doesn’t normally go out socialising with us so may not have been common for her to have stranger in group on transport but not an issue for the rest of group.

Think it may have been her hubby who saw it on FB as I’m friends with him.

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heartsonacake · 20/07/2020 16:31

All irrelevant. Sharing a taxi home is not the same as inviting a randomer into a birthday bus.

Yerroblemom1923 · 20/07/2020 16:35

You don't invite random peeps on a birthday bus. YABU

morefun · 20/07/2020 16:56

Sounds like a weird thing for your friend to have got shitty about to me.

Sorry about the loss of your brother in law.

Feelingsupersonic1 · 20/07/2020 17:01

@heartsonacake

All irrelevant. Sharing a taxi home is not the same as inviting a randomer into a birthday bus.
Birthday girl wasn’t on the bus on way home she was staying in a hotel and said that even if she had been on bus she wouldn’t have minded.
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mintich · 20/07/2020 17:06

I see her point but she was too aggressive about it. I'd apologise but her reaction to that would tell me whether I'd bother with her again

AzraiL · 20/07/2020 17:09

The only one in this scenario not behaving badly is your husband.

heartsonacake · 20/07/2020 17:15

Birthday girl wasn’t on the bus on way home she was staying in a hotel and said that even if she had been on bus she wouldn’t have minded.

Also irrelevant. The birthday girl wasn’t organising the transport; the other friend was.

excuseforfights · 20/07/2020 17:16

Sent message to friend who booked bus to ask if there were spaces on bus coming back. She said yes and asked who it was for.

OP, you say you had already paid for the bus places a month ago, so why were you asking if there was a space on the way back?

All I would have done was texted to say DH no longer coming so you are looking for someone else to take his ticket and bus space.

Vehivle · 20/07/2020 17:24

Im siding with your friend sorry. I feel like you should have explained to her your intention to make money on your husbands seat when she first text you asking who the seat was for. Her asking that in the first place indicated it mattered to her who was going to be on the bus, so probably wouldn't be ok with you inviting a random along for you to get some financial gain. I actually feel bad for her. Yes she was angry, but you were in the wrong. She was mindful of you recent loss, said she didnt want to fall out about it but was upset with you trying to sell a bus ticket on transport she arranged without even asking if that's ok to do. Then you dont respond to her first ages, probably made her feel super bad and awkward and then she pulled out the event she organised transport probably because she was too nervous to see you. I think you should value your long friendship, ring her up and clear the air by saying sorry.

jokolo · 20/07/2020 17:34

Ultimately it doesn't much matter who is right or wrong. Neither of you have killed anybody or anything. It's all about hurt feelings and pride. Think about how much you value your friend and if you do, instead of getting bogged down in the details of this blow up, let it slide. That doesn't mean apologising or accepting fault or anything like that. You can just let things lie for a few weeks and then pick up your friendship as it was before. Sometimes people get wound up about things that don't much matter. We are human and sometimes a bit silly. It's ok to just let it go.

This may just be a friendship that has run its course and you are (or both of you are) looking for an excuse to exit. Very long running friendships are a bit like marriages in this way - we feel we need a reason to leave. But we don't. You can just let it fade. Who knows, in ten years time you may reconnect, or you may never speak again.

Either way, I think in fact you need to do a lot less - less litigating, less blaming, less worrying. Let it all calm down and notice how you feel about her outside of this conflict.

cameocat · 20/07/2020 17:49

Did you ask your friend Facebook group if anyone wanted a ticket or were you trying to sell on the local selling site? I think if you were asking people you knew then you weren't unreasonable, but unreasonable not to warn friend of aimed at strangers.

I think either way her reaction was unreasonably extreme.

monkeymonkey2010 · 20/07/2020 18:26

My thinking was I could get the money back for hubby’s gig ticket and seat on bus if someone I knew wanted to go
That's all you had to say to her when she replied to your query about available seats......
Maybe they could have asked about too and this 'discussion' could have happened without causing any issues?

Stop blaming anxiety and other issues for being rude enough not to tell her and leaving her to find out via FB........

Motoko · 20/07/2020 18:48

i don't understand why you even asked her about spare seats, if it was your husband's seat you were trying to sell.

And why didn't you reply to her, explaining what you were planning on doing? Ignoring her text was rude, as was not asking if it was ok in the first place.

She was OTT, but perhaps she had reason to be.

Feelingsupersonic1 · 20/07/2020 19:12

@cameocat

Did you ask your friend Facebook group if anyone wanted a ticket or were you trying to sell on the local selling site? I think if you were asking people you knew then you weren't unreasonable, but unreasonable not to warn friend of aimed at strangers.

I think either way her reaction was unreasonably extreme.

Was only offering it to friends not Facebook marketplace
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heartsonacake · 20/07/2020 19:15

Was only offering it to friends not Facebook marketplace

You were offering it to your friends. That doesn’t mean everyone else on the bus/birthday girl/organiser knew them. So still a total stranger to them.

But it’s really besides the point - it is very rude to not run this past the organiser first.

LioneIRichTea · 21/07/2020 06:58

However, she organised transport for a group of friends and it wasn’t your place to offer it out like a taxi service on Facebook. Having a random there that no one else knows does change the vibe and it sounds like you would have allowed any old person you have on Facebook to join your best friends birthday if it would have saved you a few quid.

Sorry OP but I agree with this. Also, U think it was rude not to speak to her and leave her to find out on FB. It seems like you purposely ignored her so she couldn’t say no ( even if that wasn’t the case)

Neron · 21/07/2020 08:44

Sent message to friend who booked bus to ask if there were spaces on bus coming back. She said yes and asked who it was for. I didn’t reply immediately as didn’t have set person in mind and planned to reply once I had scoped out on social media if anyone else I knew in my wider circle was going to the gig

You should have replied to her! You rudely ignored her, and let her find out from someone else who's seen what you're doing on social media.

vikingwife · 21/07/2020 09:01

Who expects people to know who is on their fb friends lists ? Unless you have mutual I wouldn’t notice who was fiends with who

If I had booked transport for a bday celebration I wouldn’t assume that I’d want to travel with someone just because my friend was fb friends with them. People will often be fb friends with relative strangers, am I meant to have to either vet who this person is, or assume I will like them just because they are internet friends with my friend ?

This is so bizarre, every reply is to justify, not taking on board any self reflection or awareness as to how her friend might feel.

I do think you should let this 20 yr friendship go, because you sound incredibly self absorbed & not able to grasp how your behaviour affects those around you, nor care to understand that you’ve upset someone you’ve known for 20yrs.

Why even post when you only want people to cheer you on that your friend was out of line?

You didn’t book the minibus. It was a bday celebration - it isn’t the same as randomly deciding to split a cab with a stranger at the club who is going the same direction.

Your friend booked the bus thinking it was part of the event - just because you don’t think it was anything special & easy for anybody you know online to join, your friend didn’t feel the same way & she was the person who organised it.

The fact you can’t acknowledge this fact is pretty telling.

KarmaStar · 21/07/2020 11:34

Op you need to decide if your friends reaction was too much for you to continue with the friendship.
You've already asked people you know ,so why are you asking strangers as well?
Do you need validation for ending the friendship or for feeling you are in the right?
At the end of the day what matters is if you can both talk through this and agree to disagree and move on together or separately.
Constantly going over and over who is in the right will get you nowhere.
I am sorry for your losses.🌻

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ThePlantsitter · 21/07/2020 12:27

The mixed responses on this thread show that there isn't a correct answer on this one. If you don't feel sorry about it, don't apologise. Whether you call to clear the air (without apologising) depends on if you're actually missing her company or you're just feeling anxious about the argument. If it's the latter, I'm not sure getting in touch is going to feel any better unless you're absolutely honest with her about how you feel. In your situation I'd be really angry with her that she felt her reaction was proportionate given the situation going on in your life at that time. But I suspect you daren't tell her that.

namesnames · 21/07/2020 12:40

YABU, you shouldn't have put this on FB without having a chat first, it doesn't matter if said person would not be included in the birthday celebrations. You knew there was a seat as it had originally been allocated to your DH so not sure why you had to ask that question anyway. Added to that, not replying to her simple question seems odd.

On the other hand, her reaction seems extreme, maybe she had her own shit going.

Ring her.

AnyOldMorricone · 21/07/2020 12:42

Sounds like a silly thing to consider ending a friendship over.

Can understand to some extent where your friend’s coming from – you should really have just checked with the group first if anyone would mind you filling the seat with someone else going to the gig. It is discourteous to invite someone who only you know (without permission from the host) to another person’s birthday night out! It gives the impression you’re not really invested in the purpose of the event and have your own plans for the night. Everyone else then has to then spend part of the evening getting to know a stranger. It changes the vibe.

Someone else from the group obviously thought it was off too and discussed it with others in the group including your friend.

That being said, it sounds like your friend’s reaction was a bit OTT. She could have handled it better by just saying ‘sorry I know you want to pass on the seat but I would have preferred if you ask first / sorry but we’re keeping it friends only’.

Maybe it’s good she was honest and direct about being annoyed and explaining why – now you have the opportunity to apologise and explain that you were just gauging interest and would have asked her first before inviting anyone along.

If you’re good friends as you describe them it’s a really trivial thing to fall out over.