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AIBU Should I ditch 20 year friendship over this?

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Feelingsupersonic1 · 19/07/2020 23:10

Friends for over 20 years, met at primary school and were best friends through high school. She was my bridesmaid and we were there for each other when our mums both passed away when we were young. Been through a lot together in younger years. Haven’t seen each other much the last few years due to lives being busy with work and kids but stayed in touch via messages and met up couple of times a year.

Pre lockdown - had my other very close friends 30th birthday night out at nearby city - drinks then a gig - so my friend of 20yrs offered to book a mini bus for the group of us to come home.

My husbands brother died the week before the night out he so didn’t feel up to going - I still wanted to go to be there for friends special birthday but we were now under financial pressure as had to pay for funeral as brother had no money and no life insurance so we were having to cover funeral costs.

I had already pre paid our seats on the bus and gig ticket the month before so decided to go and not drink to save spending more money.

Sent message to friend who booked bus to ask if there were spaces on bus coming back. She said yes and asked who it was for. I didn’t reply immediately as didn’t have set person in mind and planned to reply once I had scoped out on social media if anyone else I knew in my wider circle was going to the gig (pre kids we used to go to lots of gigs so lots of friends on FB who could poss also have been planning to be at gig that night). My thinking was I could get the money back for hubby’s gig ticket and seat on bus if someone I knew wanted to go.

Put post on my FB page and a couple of hours later friend of 20yrs (who has never been on FB and has no social media accounts ) sent me really aggressive message saying I was out of order inviting random people onto the minibus without asking her and that just because it is someone I know doesn’t mean that everyone else is okay with them coming on the bus.

She said I have never to pull that sh*t again and she said she is livid with me but doesn’t want to fall out about it. She was angry I didn’t reply to her message about who the space on the bus was for (I was going to reply once I had a better idea of if someone could fill the seat). She said sorry if she sounds harsh but she is really pissed off.

I suffer from bad anxiety and have had bouts of depression following two miscarriages in the last few years and don’t cope well with confrontation, so despite not feeling like what I had done was actually anything wrong I messaged her to say I was sorry for upsetting her.

She responded by saying she is astounded that I can’t see that it makes me look like I don’t consider friends better than people on Facebook and that she is infuriated.

I spent day of best pals 30th feeling physically sick with worry about seeing friend who had booked bus that evening incase she had a go at me. When I arrived to meet the group of friends she didn’t turn up and text our other friend to say her child was sick.

Had very minimal contact since and wondering if I should make the effort to try and reach out and rebuild friendship or if I should just leave it. We have been through so much in past I don’t want to leave it like this but feel like she was overreacting about the situation.

Spoke to other friends on the night out to ask if I was out of order for seeing if could fill hubby’s space in bus and no one else could see an issue with it - but I don’t know if they were trying to make me feel better as I was in a bit of a state worrying about it at the time.

Should I make an effort to sort things out?

OP posts:
ttim985y · 20/07/2020 01:28

You are a selfish friend and a very unsupportive wife.

That's a bit harsh jamestown

CiCiFreakingBabcock · 20/07/2020 01:31

@ShyTown

Being aggressive was uncalled and cancelling on the night, presuming the sick child was an excuse, was way OTT. However, she organised transport for a group of friends and it wasn’t your place to offer it out like a taxi service on Facebook. Having a random there that no one else knows does change the vibe and it sounds like you would have allowed any old person you have on Facebook to join your best friends birthday if it would have saved you a few quid. And you also ignored her text and didn’t discuss it. Tbh it sounds like you both owe each other an apology.
Yeah, this.
HannaYeah · 20/07/2020 01:33

@Jamestown

I am surprised that you went for the night out and didn't stay at home with your husband to support him in his grief over his brother. You treated your friends badly too, both the birthday girl and the friend who arranged the bus, by trying to impose a random on them both. You are a selfish friend and a very unsupportive wife.
Are you kidding here? You don’t know this man, who is grieving. You aren’t his wife who knows what he wants and needs.

I recently lost a sibling and after the funeral was over, the last thing I’d want was for my DH to be following me around, canceling plans and being in my face while I’m grieving.

If you are this hostile to a stranger going through a tough time. Can’t imagine you’re a jewel to anyone in your own life.

Jamestown · 20/07/2020 01:34

I have friends who have lost siblings and they have said that it is devastating. I have lost my husband which was the worst thing that could have happened to me. If he had lost a sibling when he was still alive I would have been there for him and certainly would not have gone to a night out within a week
You can argue whether or not OP is a selfish friend but she is definitely an unsupportive wife.

CuppaZa · 20/07/2020 01:46

I agree with friend. She was a little OTT with her reaction. It also appears one of your FB friends told her about you trying to sell the ticket, so maybe not everyone in the group was ok with it, and just told you they were fine on the night. Since it was another friends 30th, maybe they wanted to stop your conversation about the situation in it’s tracks, so to not spoil the night for birthday friend

HannaYeah · 20/07/2020 01:46

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DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 20/07/2020 01:49

She could have handled it a bit better, but I agree with her.

HannaYeah · 20/07/2020 01:50

Sorry, I’ve asked for my post to be removed. That wasn’t cool.

LH1987 · 20/07/2020 01:50

I’m a bit confused, if you were trying to sell your husbands ticket and bus place, why did you ask if there were spare places on the bus, surely you already had the info you needed as you were selling his place?

I read this that you were not only trying to sell his ticket but also all the extra seats on the bus to random people on Facebook. If that’s correct, it is incredibly rude and inconsiderate.

Either way you shouldn’t have tried to sell even his bus seat without asking the group.

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Magicismagic · 20/07/2020 01:53

It appears to me that the problem is that it was a birthday outing so bus journey, drinks gig all part of the celebration. So by offering the seat on the minibus and the gig ticket you were actually inviting someone (unknown to the rest of the group including the “birthday person”) along to someone’s birthday outing. So random person sitting on the coach with everyone else being friends and random person sitting in among a block booking of seats at the gig ( if it was seated) very odd. If you and your DH were invited to a wedding or birthday meal and for whatever reason he wasn’t able to attend wouldn’t you check it was okay with the host/ organiser to bring someone else, before asking around if someone else wanted to come? I know I would.
If it was a public bus/ gig combo ticket to travel to a venue it would be totally fine to try to resell the tickets.
I think you are in the wrong, the reason why your DH couldn’t attend, extremely sad though it is, does not make it okay.

curiousierandcouriser · 20/07/2020 02:14

I think that it wasn't on that you tried to resell the bus/gig ticket to a friend's birthday party without asking. If you really thought it was ok, why didn't you just put a message to the group explaining what you're doing? This way, the others could either tell you that they didn't want you to do this or help you find someone to take your DH's ticket much quicker.

That being said, the reply was OTT - is she normally this dramatic?

jessstan2 · 20/07/2020 02:22

She was OTT. Please do let her know how upset you are, your wires were obviously crossed but can be straightened out.

I'm so sorry.

Horehound · 20/07/2020 02:24

I can see her side. You've constructed a whole story to justify you getting some money back. If things were that tight you shouldn't have gone, sold both bus seats and the gig tickets.
You didn't reply at the time to your friend because I imagine you knew really what you were doing is a bit off.
Similarly, her reaction is ott. You are both unreasonable!

NeverHadANickname · 20/07/2020 02:44

I think YABU. As others have said it is not fair to invite someone else to a birthday night out, it changes the dynamic. I would have explained and asked if there were any of the other birthday girls friends that wanted to buy the ticket. Her response sounds harsh but I can see why she was annoyed when you hadn't replied to her when she tried asking about it.

AllyBamma · 20/07/2020 02:58

Hmmm yeah sorry I agree with others that I think your friend is right. I think your heart was in the right place but perhaps because you’ve had so much going on in your head with your BIL and miscarriages that you didn’t think your actions through. If I had organised a mini bus for a night out with friends and then someone who couldn’t go then tried to sell their ticket on to some random person, I’d be really annoyed. I think you should have just spoken to her about your situation and she or someone in the group might have known someone who could have taken your spot. We all have a lot going on at the moment, I think you need to look at it from her point of view.

snitzelvoncrumb · 20/07/2020 04:27

Could there be something going on in her life that is really stressing her out? That is a massive overreaction. I can understand her being annoyed, but carrying on like that is over the top. I wouldn't talk to her again until she apologised.

ConiferGate · 20/07/2020 04:36

I think you were both being a bit unreasonable to be honest. You shouldn’t have just sent out on FB, she shouldn’t have over reacted.

vikingwife · 20/07/2020 05:06

was the ticket to the gig a seated spot?

It would have made more sense for you to either

  • sell the ticket alone (ie no transport included) so this random would not be essentially crashing a 30th birthday celebration
  • asked your friend / birthday girl if there is anyone she knows who would like to come along in your husband’s place

I also find it odd you would ask your friend if there was a place on the minibus, when you knew your husband was pulling out.

When your friend doesn’t reply “yes” - she asked “who is it for?” Then that was the indicator that she meant “maybe” - as in there might be an open spot but depends who it is.

Instead of replying to her, you went on fb and offered the ticket/transport to anybody. It would have been easier to tell your friend/bday girl the situation so as a group someone may know a closer friend who would like to come along

It does sound cheeky...as for the friend not turning up that is poor form - so was your friend’s 30th bday marred due to this fallout?

Do you perhaps have a history of being a bit of a tight arse perhaps? I ask because it would have been easy to sell a ticket to a gig, but you also wanted to make money back off the minibus fare - in reality how much would that have been?

You’d have been willing to change the whole dynamics of the 30th party & invite someone along who wasn’t invited just to save a couple of bucks?

This must be a straw which broke camel’s back type situation...there must be a history of annoying behaviour here.

MRex · 20/07/2020 07:43

A Facebook friend isn't necessarily a "random". For some people it might be, but I know everyone well who's on my Facebook, and many of them might have met at various points. I don't know what OP is like with befriending strangers or not, but it sounded like it wasn't marketplace. It's only a birthday party, equating it to a wedding that's a one-off where someone else has covered all the costs, is keeping photos forever etc is silly.

labyrinthloafer · 20/07/2020 07:49

Whilst your friend's view was perhaps understandable (not wanting a stranger in the transport), her reaction was very aggressive.

I think you need to give her a wide berth for a while. You don't need to have any discussion, just avoid avoid avoid.

Brieminewine · 20/07/2020 07:50

You’re in the wrong. I’d be pissed off if my friendship group had plans and someone put a post online inviting randoms without discussing it first, you were rude and inconsiderate.

cushioncovers · 20/07/2020 07:53

Op I get why you tried to make use of your dh ticket but you should have checked with your friend first before inviting a random person onto the trip. It's bad manners not to. However your friend did overreact somewhat.

CornishTiger · 20/07/2020 07:55

You should have told her why you were asking and check she was happy for you to try and fill that space.

I organise stuff a lot and would have expected you to tell me. I’d have then even helped you fill space.

Her response however was unkind and extreme. Fault on both sides.

Yetiyoga · 20/07/2020 08:04

YABU. Whilst I do think she overreacted, you can't just invite other random people to your friends birthday! If money was tight you should have tried to sell the ticket to someone (who wouldn't be coming with you)
Why did you ask her if there was space on the bus? Surely you knew this as your DH wasn't coming anymore? Why didn't you reply to her?