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School reports and gender

112 replies

MadameBee · 19/07/2020 18:35

Question - do all reports refer to children as “they” rather than he/she?

DH was reading DSDs and was moaning about the grammar.

Is this requested or is it standard now that they are gender neutral?

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MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:05

No

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LaPoesieEstDansLaRue · 19/07/2020 19:05

Ours say he/she, but could understand why teachers may use they if they're copying and pasting some comments to avoid inadvertently using the wrong gender. (My DD once had a stray "he" in her report but it's not something that concerned me.) Grammatically they is fine.

However, in this case it may be that your DSD has specifically requested to be referred to as "they", in which case I'd be commending the teachers for being understanding and sensitive of your DSD's feelings.

MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:07

Sorry no she hasn’t asked us to use they and I would feel ridiculous doing it tbh.

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LonginesPrime · 19/07/2020 19:10

It helps to mask any copy/paste errors.

LonginesPrime · 19/07/2020 19:11

And speeds things up, obviously.

backseatcookers · 19/07/2020 19:11

As you've said on here that you would feel ridiculous using they/them, she probably knows you would feel that way too. So is it not possible she's asked school to use they/them and just not you and her dad?

MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:12

She doesn’t know that is how I feel.

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Mydogisthebestest · 19/07/2020 19:13

She knows. Guarantee you. She knows.

MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:13

She does not know, I have never discussed it with her or with DH.

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Mydogisthebestest · 19/07/2020 19:15

I will guarantee you 110% she knows.

I knew. When I was the teen who didn’t confirm. I knew exactly what my mother thought even though she never said a word.

She knows.

LaPoesieEstDansLaRue · 19/07/2020 19:15

Perhaps your DSD has asked to be referred to as "they" at school not at home, thinking that the request would be met with more generosity and open mindedness there.

Otherwise it'll be the cut & paste thing.

Mydogisthebestest · 19/07/2020 19:15

*conform

LillianBland · 19/07/2020 19:15

@Mydogisthebestest

She knows. Guarantee you. She knows.
She must be reading your aura, OP. 🤣
MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:16

Her step-sister (my DD) is gay and lives with her girlfriend, they come around when DSD is here and I have a close relationship with my DD.

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whattimeisitrightnow · 19/07/2020 19:16

Right, but she’s clearly struggling even if it is ‘bandwagon jumping’. Happy, well-adjusted children don’t tend to follow fads to their own detriment. Additionally, it seems she’s extremely confused about her sexuality, which can be quite common at this age, but it doesn’t sound as if she’s heterosexual - it sounds like her sexuality is more fluid and she might be struggling to define it, hence the jumping between terms. So posting about it is valid because she may well feel judged for her sexuality. I agree she needs to focus on school but that can’t be easy when she’s so caught up in her own identity. Has your DH sat her down and spoken to her about this: told her that she is loved no matter what, that she can be in whatever sort of relationships she likes, that ultimately if she can’t find a ‘label’ that suits her then that is okay and it doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with her?

backseatcookers · 19/07/2020 19:17

OP I say this gently but she really might know more than you think about your opinions on the subject of all things trans / non-binary / they them etc. I'm not making a judgement on those opinions as I probably share some of yours and also some of hers but as someone bisexual (and now 33!) it has surprised me over the years how unaware people are about how clear their opinions are made without them thinking they are obvious. It's a bit worrying you aren't willing to entertain that it might be a factor - it's not a character assassination of you, just a thought.

Mydogisthebestest · 19/07/2020 19:18

This isn’t about your dd. You can be accepting of gay and not accepting of this “modern band wagon jumping” of bi gender non-binary.

She knows what you think of her being bi or gender fluid or non-binary. Guarantee it.

MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:19

Yes she is struggling but I think it’s due to other issues which I won’t go into here.

She does have support with her mental health but then this turns into she can’t do X Y Z due to her anxiety but can do other things perfectly well when it suits her which feels manipulative at times.

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Mydogisthebestest · 19/07/2020 19:20

What pp said. It’s not a reflection on your character. But I’ll guarantee you she knows.

I’m pansexual. I said bi as a teen/20s/30s but I married and conformed. It’s only now that I’m older and society has moved on that I’m comfortable being non-binary.

MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:21

I don’t think young people aren’t comfortable to discuss this?

We are way more open today than we were even 10 years ago.

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LonginesPrime · 19/07/2020 19:22

she’s obsessed with Instagram and is getting poor grades

It sounds like she feels her family doesn't understand her and she senses a level of acceptance on Instagram that she hasn't found anywhere else.

Especially when combined with the anxiety comments. She probably feels that her issues aren't taken very seriously.

MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:22

And no she doesn’t know - I know her and the relationship I have with her, you, a stranger on the internet do not.

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MadameBee · 19/07/2020 19:23

Her issues are taken very seriously.

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Mydogisthebestest · 19/07/2020 19:23

@LonginesPrime

she’s obsessed with Instagram and is getting poor grades

It sounds like she feels her family doesn't understand her and she senses a level of acceptance on Instagram that she hasn't found anywhere else.

Especially when combined with the anxiety comments. She probably feels that her issues aren't taken very seriously.

Exactly this.
Coyoacan · 19/07/2020 19:24

Since when did schools decide to follow pupils ' fashions?

When my brother was at school the fashion was long hair, so of course the bloody school insisted on short hair. When my nephew went to school the fashion was short hair, so the school insisted on long hair.

But now what should be part of an anti-bullying policy is a fashion encouraged by schools. Why?