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To still be pissed of by Jamie Oliver

372 replies

marysuzairn · 18/07/2020 13:40

Everytime I go round a friend's house and they bring out the pims I can't have it because virtually all lemonade now has sweeteners in. People say they taste like crap and gives me such a bad headache.

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zonkin · 18/07/2020 16:57

@bruffin San Pellegrino do use Stevia for a whole 10% reduction in sugar (wow!). And their main product is their sparkling water.

The fruit flavoured cans were never that nice to start with.

Neither the water nor the fruit flavoured cans are at a low end price.

Have they been put into liquidation as a result of the change to stevia?

AlternativePerspective · 18/07/2020 16:58

True, but consuming artificial sweeteners doesn't curb the cravigs for something sweet, In fact, research suggests that they make people crave sugary foods. and there is a link between artificial sweeteners and diabetes as well because the pancreas thinks it’s getting sugar and reacts as if it is, and this in turn can be harmful to it in the same way sugar can.

marysuzairn · 18/07/2020 16:58

I think some people here support this because they know better than the plebs who need telling

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TimeWastingButFun · 18/07/2020 16:58

I hate artificial sweeteners. I always buy normal lemonade, but it's a treat in this house rather than a regular drink. I don't know about Jamie Oliver's involvement but YADNBU about the disgusting taste.

bruffin · 18/07/2020 16:59

try Caustons. They have lots of lovely drinks without sweeteners
Dalston are similar and really nice

marysuzairn · 18/07/2020 16:59

San Pellegrino is a shitty nestle brand, I find it funny some friends o know consider it an artisan Italian water Grin

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KatieB55 · 18/07/2020 17:00

It def doesn't taste the same - I just don't buy it now

justasking111 · 18/07/2020 17:01

Pellegrino limonatta, just checked can contains sugars. But at 302 calories per can think it is just sugar.

okiedokieme · 18/07/2020 17:02

You can buy lemonade without sweetener though personally I've always drink diet drinks, I find the full sugar ones too sweet (that said I mostly just drink water)

AlternativePerspective · 18/07/2020 17:02

I actually quite like the orange one but I have to have it in severe moderation as I am fluid restricted.

However, when I was looking for sparkling water to make lemonade the sanpelligrino one was £1.50 a litre whereas Ocean spray was £3 for six. Shock.

Given it’s only water I have no idea why anyone would pay those kinds of prices.

ItsSpittingEverybodyIn · 18/07/2020 17:04

Sugar in moderation is far better for you than cancer causing sweeteners, they are just awful.

bruffin · 18/07/2020 17:04

@bruffin San Pellegrino do use Stevia for a whole 10% reduction in sugar (wow!). And their main product is their sparkling water.
I know, i have said they lost business when that happened. They have bought back a "classic version" but only orange and lemon flavours without stevia and also flavoured iced teas without stevia.

The new "classic" version in tall thin cans you can buy on ocado

Wallywobbles · 18/07/2020 17:04

For IBS sufferers sweeteners are the equivalent of super powerful laxatives with a side order of oven cleaner.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 18/07/2020 17:04

As someone who drank sugary drinks up until about 5 years ago but now drinks the diet versions you are being unreasonable. It took a while to get used to the taste but now I can't bear the sugary versions.

And as it really is quite clear that part of the nation's obesity and diabetes crisis is because of sugar, I'm fully behind the sugar tax.

You do realise that not everybody is you, don’t you? Why should we be denied something natural and forced to swap it with an artificial alternative, just because you claim that everybody can become dulled to the taste of it over time?

Nobody on here is demanding that drinks with sweeteners be withdrawn as a choice, just that those who don’t want sweeteners should also have a choice.

The obesity and diabetes crisis is caused by a whole load of potential factors, one of which may well be sugar. Similarly, regularly tricking your body into releasing far too much insulin to counter with what it believes is a lot of sugar may well contribute to the onset of diabetes.

I'm fully behind him. I love that drinks that used to be sickly sweet with sugar now have sweeteners so I can drink them. As to previous poster about her diabetic husband, don't most pubs well fruit juice?

Yes, they do, but what if he doesn’t want to be restricted to one kind of drink? Would you be happy if you asked for a glass of wine and they said, ah you don’t need that – we’ve got beer and that also has alcohol in it?

FGS, not all drinks have sweeteners in them instead of sugar. And yes, drinking either the full sugar or sweetener one is crap for your health, and in the case of the former, your teeth.

You do realise, don’t you, that sugar, like fat, is not one big unmitigated evil? We need them in our diet, just not too much – same as with everything.

The fact is that most people eat too much sugar. Anyone who says there is nothing wrong with that is deluded - why do we have so many fats kids and adults? (and no, it’s no lack of exercise - diet plays a much bigger role in people’s weight)

So are you claiming that there are far fewer fat people nowadays, now that we have drinks stuffed with artificial sweeteners, than there were in the 50s, 60s and 70s, when 'evil' sugar was the only sweetener used?

There are a lot of people on here who really don’t seem to like letting other people have choices in their lives if they consider those choices bad, or even if they’re just not their own preferred choices.

bruffin · 18/07/2020 17:07

classic San Pellegrino without stevia

TwigTheWonderKid · 18/07/2020 17:08

Sainsbury's Classic Lemonade is the only one I can find these days without revolting aspartame in it

Campervan69 · 18/07/2020 17:10

Ah I didn't know this. But now I understand why I can't tolerate fizzy drinks anymore. YANBU.

justasking111 · 18/07/2020 17:11

you can buy the classic version pellegrina in Home Bargains too.

2Kidsinatrenchcoat · 18/07/2020 17:12

Not sure if anyone’s said this yet but Waitrose do an own brand lemonade with no sweeteners for about 80p a bottle.

Stevia is grim, I used to be able to rely on the drinks that said ‘no artificial sweeteners’ to be okay but now when it says that I still have to check the label to make sure it won’t be a bitter disappointment

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 18/07/2020 17:18

*Haven’t Fevertree and SAN Pelegrino started mixing sweetener into their “normal” versions?

I don't know abut those two brands in particular, but most of the big manufacturers have been doing it. If they think it's so great, why don't they mention it clearly on the label?

If it were up to me, I'd make it the law that you have to clearly state 'contains sugar', 'contains artificial sweeteners' or 'contains artificial sweeteners and sugar' on the label. Then everybody would be able to quickly make their choice with full knowledge. We're not toddlers who need to be hoodwinked into consuming what mummy thinks best for us.

Ginfordinner · 18/07/2020 17:21

@Wallywobbles

For IBS sufferers sweeteners are the equivalent of super powerful laxatives with a side order of oven cleaner.
Don't I know it Sad
justasking111 · 18/07/2020 17:22

Just checked fevertree tonic no sweetener thank god.

Comefromaway · 18/07/2020 17:23

Sweeteners give me stomach cramps. It’s impossible to buy drinks out now. I have to stick to plain water.

mangomama91 · 18/07/2020 17:25

I never forgave him after he took our turkey twizzlers away :'(

rosiejaune · 18/07/2020 17:26

Sweeteners might make things worse, anyway. As your body releases insulin when you taste sweet things, to process the sugar it's expecting. But then there isn't any. So you become less responsive to insulin, which is a pre-diabetic stage.