Drag, drag, drag....

[Yarboosucks]

I have never been a particularly sensitive or active feminist, but all this drag rubbish on TV is getting to me. How at a time when rightly you could not broadcast in black face or similar is it OK to mock or at best caricature women so ridiculously?

You need to stop making excuses for this now tbh
Are you talkin to me? I'm makin no excuses. I've said many times I respect that this is offensive and hurtful to some. I juat can't relate. But I can respect it.
And also, sayin how TV executives are looking specifically for this kind of shocking and offensive content... isn't making excuses. It's just fact.

But I googled it and it's a 'thing'.
I can't get my head round that. How it's a thing. People are fucking disgusting I'm afraid to Google it. It's not somthin I want to know more about ick 😩

@AnyFucker

Haven't RTFT but has anyone who is offended by drag mentioned how they object to being subjected to male sexual display ?

I don't wish to participate in autogynephilia. That is my objection to drag.

Yes, that. I wonder (genuinely) how many straight men like drag?

Also, the godawful singing, I don’t need it.

Yes, that. I wonder (genuinely) how many straight men like drag? my very straight partner is always around drag three of our close friends are drag performers. Recently we put my partner in drag for the first time after he'd been asking for about a year

I wish I could post the pictures here 😂 but way too outing for him 🤣

Notin, you are making excuses saying the TV producers will have thought of something really extreme for good telly.

But no one looked shocked or phased. It was just, you're rocking the jonbenet (or however they put it). And it's definitely a 'thing' .

So you don't believe reality TV producers aim for the most shocking material they can get away with?

By the way that has nothing to do with the actual performer, I mean if you're going to partake in offensive, disgusting and hurtful behaviours on TV or otherwise.. you're just a horrible horrible person.

So yes the producers may want this.
But obviously there has to be a horrible cretin out there willing to do it whether it was the producers idea of their own. Disgusting people are everywhere.
And what you see on TV doesn't always even nearly reflect what it's like in real life. Of course.

*Or their own

Drag is enforcing old and tiered gender stereotypes. It is the opposite of free thinking or new artistic expression, it' built on stereotypes, sameness and built on a mans idea of what it means to be female. it fuels a very ugly idea of what femininity means. It clearly is appropriation.

YANBU. I hate it. How people don’t see the parallels with blackface is a mystery to me. But we’re only women, so who cares...

The even more worrying stuff is drag queens at museum and British library LGBT family fun days, reading in kids schools and libraries. A safeguarding horror story, as well as being regressive, misogynist crap.

Drag is being pushed so much you’d almost think that it was intentional. I find it sinister and threatening; normalising queerness so that the rest of the female population don’t kick-off when they see an odd bloke dressed as a lady in the loos in Budgens “ahh it’s just like that nice bloke off the telly”. Those pushing this cannot hope to make 51% of the population + children give up their rights without this brainwashing. It’s normalising the idea that ther are ‘other ways of being a woman’. As for Drag Queen Storytelling - well it needs to be stopped - they are taking the piss and laughing at us all.

drag queens at museum and British library LGBT family fun days, reading in kids schools and libraries. A safeguarding horror story
So presumably it's also a safeguarding issue having any male in the same setting e.g facepainter, clown, magician etc? They too have a penis and may hate women/be paedophiles surely? I'm genuinely asking.

Totally agree, I hate the piss takes, I find it disrespectful, my niece 23, loves it and says she sees it as appreciation!
It’s a nope from me.

I find it sinister and threatening; normalising queerness; so that the rest of the female population don’t kick-off when they see an odd bloke dressed as a lady in the loos in Budgens 😂
Sorry this made me laugh 🤣

I've recently got into drag thanks to a mate who got me hooked when Drag Race UK was on telly
Loved it, I don't feel offended by it all.

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@Tigersneeze

Drag is enforcing old and tiered gender stereotypes. It is the opposite of free thinking or new artistic expression, it' built on stereotypes, sameness and built on a mans idea of what it means to be female. it fuels a very ugly idea of what femininity means. It clearly is appropriation.

Not sure if you meant ‘tired’ vs ‘tiered’ gender but tiered seems about right these days!

@ThePawtriarchy meant to say tired indeed

The more I see of it, the more it gives me the creeps

Don’t have a problem with drag queens or drag kings. Kate Smirthwaite’s show she did in drag was amazing!

It’s normalising the idea that ther are ‘other ways of being a woman’

See, I just can't get my head round this way of thinking.
So some men want to dress up and express themselves as women, so what?
It doesn't make me feel any less of a woman, I know I am one, am comfortable being one, why should what someone else does affect my "woman'ness?" (Not sure that's a word but you know what I mean lol)
Just be comfortable being you.

Many perfectly acceptable things (by other people's standards) creep me out and offend me in life so I just turn them off/turn away and use little to no power thinking about them. Best to stay away from topics that freak me out to that extent, especially ones I can't do much about.
I'd waste an awful lot of my time if I didn't.

So some men want to dress up and express themselves as women, so what?
It doesn't make me feel any less of a woman, I know I am one, am comfortable being one, why should what someone else does affect my "woman'ness?"

This is how I feel.

Me too

And men have been dressing as women for millennia