To think think here we go again...UK and US up in arm's meanwhile the Irish and other countries just get on with it!!

[janeymacaronijoanie]

As the thread says...U.K. and USA are all up in arms about wearing masks! Meanwhile here in Ireland and in other countries ppl just do what is asked and wear the bloody masks!! I mean WTAF do they think makes them so special? Do the numbers not speak for themselves!??

I mean they are not that bad most medical professionals wear them ALL the time pre Covid and you never heard them complain

Despite what the media would have everyone believe - we aren't up in arms and we are getting on with it. The gbp are no less compliant than most other countries - in fact I would say we have followed the rules and got on with it pretty well on the whole.
Stop watching the news channels.
You can find all the information you need on the .gov site. And if it isn't there then then it isn't important.

I do keep wondering how it would work with CCTV apparently helping with crime (face recognition) if everyone's face is covered? I'm sure this question has been asked before...but I have no idea of the answer.

In Ireland compliance is low though. They haven’t got the message out.

As in people wearing masks as low as 60% on public transport in Ireland today.

I totally agree as well OP

I do keep wondering how it would work with CCTV apparently helping with crime (face recognition) if everyone's face is covered?

I’m wondering how it’s gonna work ID’ing people for booze. 😉

I'm in the South West of Ireland and I'd estimate maybe 10% of people are wearing them? Social distancing has lessened as well.
My son is at a summer camp this week too - organisers and parents have assessed this to be reasonable. Kids have been playing together outdoors since early May.
We don't use public transport so I imagine far more wear them there.

So not only is OP ignorant about USA / UK.

She's also ignorant about her own country

Are they actually up in arms or is it just the media you read or your a select few from your tiny social circle who are rather vocal about it?

What an unpleasant and contradictory thread. Love the fact that the OP is completely ignoring all the posters in Ireland saying that mask wearers are in a minority.

I live in England and I don't know anyone who's 'up in arm's' (sic) about wearing a mask. I haven't worn one so far because it wasn't compulsory or even recommended, but I've just bought one.

The problem is this will become a political bandwagon fuelled by social media and external influences such as Russia, China and extreme groups intent on causing societal fractions. Regardless of which side of the fence you sit, take a Moment and look at the situation as a whole, it’s a circus.

The US and UK are both very similar in how many people are selfish and have a sense of entitlement. Watch the British versions of the Karen refusing to wear a mask videos that will suddenly spring up all over social media.

The only way this will stop is either by shutting down social media platforms, banning certain social media trends or a huge spike in death rates from infections. Until then, this madness will carry on spiralling out of control and it will feel like Groundhog Day.

I agree the Op should've said England not UK because the public health responses are separate but the anti- English thing needs to stop. I'm in Scotland and until it was mandatory fuck all people were wearing masks. I'm in central belt and there was usually only 2 or 3 people wearing masks in big supermarkets. Including the day before it became legal. I felt like a prick but I wore mine anyway. There is a percentage of people in all countries who are just being libertarian arseholes- no one can tell me what to do sort of thing. It's just more obvious in England the US because they make up the government.

I’m thinking all the moaners have spent hundreds on lip and nasolabial fold fillers only to feel now how pointless it all was 🤣

Reminds me of this
m.youtube.com/watch?v=rv2BcBZan2A
(Replace Scotland with your country of preference)

Scotland isn't up in arms about it, compliance has been very high since the mandatory requirement to wear masks came in last week

(and all other "Scotland is MUCH better") comments.

Have you seen SM about it? Plenty of the same whinging voices about how they shouldn't have to wear them blah blah blah. Hardly anyone is wearing them in the small shops round our way and the store owners aren't forcing it. When I was up there yesterday there was a police officer in the queue watching people go in and out without them, neither he nor the officer in the car did anything about it. This makes the "there were no fines this weekend" headlines laughable.

Stop pretending we are some kind of superior nation up here. We have plenty of dicks just like everywhere else.

Come off it OP. I live in Dublin and have been to the South East and Midlands in the last couple of weeks - about 50% wearing masks. Also a lot less social distancing. People seem to have become a lot more lax.

Unfortunately it depends where you are in Ireland re compliance and I’m afraid to say there’s a bit of a class divide. I was in Rathfarnham and masks everywhere in the shopping centre. In swords I seemed to be the only person there with a mask bar the elderly.

Scotland isn't up in arms about it, compliance has been very high since the mandatory requirement to wear masks came in last week

I'm in Scotland and can't go shopping/to the doctors whilst it's in place so I'd say I'm rather unhappy about it. Dh is complying because he's mostly law abiding but he'd much rather it was voluntary. Compliance doesn't mean people like it you know.

loveisanopensore

"We might be wearing masks in Ireland but we're also letting tourists from the USA. It's crazy."

I find that really surprising, because I always credit Irish governments as having more sense than ours.
I suppose money is sadly more important than people's lives.

@mintychoc1

I think possibly living through the blitz wasn’t much fun.

You really need to learn some history if you think that the blitz, which was "only" bombing compares in any way to what other European countries went through under Nazi rule, 90% of jews, gays, gypsys murdered, ghetto's, severe hunger and bloody death camps. That was besides being bombed as well.

But if you have a better theory why the US and parts of the UK are more selfish than apparantly the rest of the whole world, I'd like to hear it. And I mean that one, why can't you do what the rest of us are doing? Even sweden has come back from their initial respons and said that they should have protected their care homes better than they did.

Have you never lived abroad OP? I find wherever I have lived (four different European countries), a range of different attitudes and people. And quite a bit of national exceptionalism.

You seem to have demonstrated it yourself in your posts, so keen are you to denigrate others.

I am in England now - where most people are wearing masks in shops and on public transport (because it's compulsory here in London). Friends in France say it's similar there with similar moaning and similar frustration at government lack of clarity but a basic mentality of getting on with it as best they can. They had a very similar issue with a lack of PPE as we did - but that was not reported on here so if you follow the news it's no surprise you think only the UK has had this problem.

Other friends are in Sweden where there's been no lockdown, no social distancing and no mask-wearing. With some very negative consequences but I think the jury is still out on which approach will turn out to be less damaging in the long run when you take into account excess deaths from untreated cancers and heart conditions, interrupted education etc. I wonder why you didn't include Sweden in your diatribe...

I’m in Ireland and so many people not wearing masks when in shops etc. I really don’t get why they aren’t mandatory tbh

And then you have people in the US and UK (although I don't think I should add NI to this one
Great Britain?

Please don't lump me in with the mask moaners! I'll be wearing mine when required, I'll also be wearing it when needed when I (hopefully) go abroad next month.

@slipperywhensparticus

I don't know anyone in real life who is moaning about wearing a mask im in England

I'm sick of the anti English sentiment on here

I think it’s a mumsnet thing, I don’t know one person moaning about mask. MN is full of armchair experts who don’t have open minds