Are you being told to clean toilets at work?

[noblegiraffe]

If cleaning toilets wasn’t previously anywhere near your job description?

It’s being claimed on another thread that this is just part of the new normal, everyone is pitching in. I’m not convinced.

YABU - I’m being asked to clean toilets

YANBU - I’m not being asked to clean toilets

If you are, are you ok with it?

I work in a hospital

When I need a wee
I take a clinnel wipe to the toilet with me clean the handles and seat

That's just me
I know it is cleaned by the cleaners

But obviously not cleaned everytime between visits

[quote FishyDuck]@pippitysqueakity

Of course teachers can't clean toilets while teaching. They can do it at the end of the school day and throughout breaks and lunchtimes.[/quote]
We're supervising breaks and lunchtimes!!

@TheGreatWave

People moan about the number of teacher bashing threads on MN, yet a teacher starts a thread which is basically "take us on".

I'm sure it could be reasonable for staff to at least check the toilets in the senior school my DC go to due to the configuration of the toilets (separate cubicles opening onto the corridor with sinks) but I couldn't say it would be reasonable at every school.

Practically though I am not sure how it would work with COSHH regulations.

I agree with your regarding starting the thread.

When I did my COSHH training many moons ago it was basically a quick read through a booklet and answer some questions. Not sure if it’s changed though

I don't think that's fair wave. the OP doesn't mention her job in the OP. She is just canvassing .

I am not sure we have come across many people on here who are now cleaning toilets others have used where it wasn't an expectation before. What we have found is people eager to pile on to tell teachers why they should be cleaning toilets. So it became a thread like that after the OP.

@Sr1nkleOverSalad

Pippety that is for your head to work out and plan for just like primary heads have.

And a lot of primary head have planned it in such a way that teachers and TA's are not required to clean toilets. Deal with it.

Ah yes we can clean during all those break times and lunchtimes and after school. I forgot about all that free time we have.

My workplace (a university) has said that the toilets will be cleaned more often. No one has ever contemplated that this will be done by anyone other than the cleaning staff, and that their numbers will be increased accordingly.

Yes certain pupils will love leaving ‘presents’ for teachers to clean up.

Oh so all those professional skilled people can now come and clean the toilets you refuse to do

Eh?

I’ll be busy teaching maths and doing my job while the cleaners are doing theirs. Would you like the cleaners to teach maths while I clean the toilets?

Noblegiraffe
Is it better for the economy for large numbers of people to be unemployed and on benefits, or for public money to be spent creating jobs for them

The challenge as always is that they aren't ever where you need them. The chance that the many people being made redundant are located evenly across the country where cleaners are needed is low.

It also doesn't solve the issue of bubbles/SD and the fact that you are then introducing more people into schools thus increasing risk of spread.

I'm still reading, but in the meantime.

I'm seeing a lot of mentions about wipes in toilets to encourage use. Is it made clear to everyone how to dispose of these? I'm thinking end of the week toilets might be blocked, many aren't flushable 😂

@TheGreatWave noble didn't actually mention her job in the OP , and her question was whether people(not teachers) are now being expected to clean toilets despite not being part of their job description.

Then it turned into... teachers should do it in all that extra free time they have.

There aren't actually that many replies from people in various sectors saying that yes , they are cleaning toilets.

There is clearly an element of wanting to see teachers "taken down a peg or two" due to unwillingness to view pupil toilet cleaning as part of the remit. It's interesting.

I asked that earlier can! Fatbergs everywhere !!

Definitely mistress

@canigooutyet

I'm still reading, but in the meantime.

I'm seeing a lot of mentions about wipes in toilets to encourage use. Is it made clear to everyone how to dispose of these? I'm thinking end of the week toilets might be blocked, many aren't flushable 😂

We have many signs telling us to dispose of wipes in the bin.

It’s ok if the loos get blocked - the teachers can quickly train as plumbers and fix them in between lessons.

At least I would have my reply ready if any parents ask why their dc's work has not had feedback or why reports are late. "It has been decided to reallocate a proportion of my contracted time to toilet maintenance and this has necessitated the removal of other duties, in this case reading a class set of essays". Et cetera.

In schools who clears up if a child is sick on the classroom floor or drips blood from a cut knee or something?

TAs in a primary school. Along with sick, poo (human and animal) and anything else on the classroom floor.

There’s no way teachers should be cleaning toilets after pupils. I’m not a teacher but I feel this really is a bridge too far. To the poster who suggested they clean before/ after school, during breaks.. seriously? Most teachers won’t get more than a 20 minute break a day, they won’t have time before school and after FGS, they have families/ commitments why should they increase hours to clean up kids’ shitty toilets. It is not their job.

Regular posters know exactly the job the OP does and she has been around long enough to know exactly how this thread would go.

It was only ever going to go the way it has done, the OP could easily have been about additional cleaning tasks / safety measures, but it was toilets that has been discussed on every school thread.

People moan about the number of teacher bashing threads on MN, yet a teacher starts a thread which is basically "take us on".

Nope, I started a thread to canvas expectations in the ‘real world’ and it has actually turned out rather well. Anyone saying that teachers should be expected to clean toilets because it’s the ‘new normal’ and ‘everyone is mucking in’ now has the polling data to tell that person to fuck off.

X posted there.

I think it’s unreasonable to ask teachers to become janitors.

In small offices people should clean up after themselves out of courtesy. In large offices, they just have to pay for extra on the cleaning contract.

@Everydayisalearningday

Those of us who have worked for years at a comp the boys toilets are a sight to behold shit purposefully smeared up walls, piss everywhere, blocking outlets on purpose causing floods. For the girls exchange piss all over the floor for used sanitary towels stuck to the walls, I’m all for teamwork but the idea of wearing smart attire shoving a pair of gloves on and cracking on with tackling that, there’s got to be a better way

This. And primary schools can be just as rotten.

And what is so wrong with being asked to clean up your own shit?
It amazed me that companies have to send out messages. - Can we kindly request to wash your cup. etc. Or have the posters about the cleaning fairy.

Can see why now at the mere suggestion of cleaning up after ourselves. Who are these dirty fuckers leaving their piss and shit behind? Their mugs left on the side, the endless mug stains in the kitchen/staff rooms. You want me to clean that up? I didn't apply for the cleaning job.

Out of my home I will happily clean up after myself. Rest of the time, yea bollocks. Could imagine a few ex colleagues jumping to be the first of the line to volunteer, but then their are brown-noses everywhere