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AIBU?

to think not everyone has to like my son, but my DP should try?

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Yorkshiremummyof1 · 12/07/2020 03:20

I’m after advice re step parenting and relationships between. DC and SP

Myself, DP, DS9 live in a rented house. DP and I have been together for a year and he previously got on well with my son.

The situation as it currently is, is that he doesn’t enjoy spending time with DS and finds him irritating. I understand this is for a few reasons.

DS watches YouTube too much and it’s actually annoying hearing him talk to the TV.

When he’s allowed to play on the XBOX he stands far too close and talks to it.

He can have an attitude, not a naughty one just sassy and know it all.

He has the worst selective hearing, he doesn’t acknowledge me when I ask him to do something. He doesn’t say okay, he has about a 5 second pause before he starts to do it so I often get irritated as I think he’s ignoring me, he’s not he’s just processing it. But it winds me and DP up

DS doesn’t talk to us about anything interesting or something that DP enjoys, its mind numbing boring shit like minecraft or pokemon. It’s so hard to feign interest and it’s pretty obvious. I am being blunt, I just think it’s easier that sugarcoating it.

So these things annoy my DP and I think he has let them get to the point where he almost doesn’t like my son. I’ve explained to him that’s kinda a dealbreaker and we have discussed how lockdown might have affected it and how we could possibly start over. We’ve discussed how the same things wind me up, but he’s my child - I love him and I deal with the fact that I hate minecraft because DS loves it. Whereas DP has to want to choose this relationship if that makes sense?

The reason this is an issue is that we are considering moving to DPs house. He owns a lovely cottage in the country however it is smaller than my house, we would have less space and I think he is concerned about DS clicking that DP doesn’t enjoy spending time with him. He is upset that he feels this way and he doesn’t want DS to pick up on it. When DS has some problems with bullies, DP was upset for him but that emotional connection appears to have dimmed a bit, I pointed out they haven’t had a cuddle in a while and DP was visibly upset.

My counter to all this was.

YouTube is a pile of shit but instead of complaining he watches too much we should give him a set day he can watch it and we should encourage other things he can watch. Ideally he wouldn’t watch too much TV but admittedly for the two hours between end of school and me finishing work, I need him to be occupied. But don’t complain about HIS choice of TV when you as the adult have the power to change that.

XBOX - nothing I say will keep him from getting so close to the TV. Deal with it

Attitude - so I actually think that DS is trying to connect with DP. When he’s sassy to me at the dinner table I think he’s got his guard up. He’s totally different with just me, but I’m his mum and I love him unconditionally. The way he is round DP is similar to how I’ve seen him at school where he’s still settling in. I don’t know how to “fix” this

Selective hearing, I think it’s an age thing and perhaps I could change how I request DS to do something.

Talking to DP about boring things. This is so bloody obvious. He’s talking to DP about stuff that DS knows about because he’s trying to connect!! Is asked DP if he offered a topic to talk about and he blanked. So...do things with DS that DP enjoys and maybe....you’ll find common ground.

The problem is that DP has expected the relationship to magically grow with no effort. I understand why he’s thought this as his only experience with kids has been his god children and he has a really good relationship. Meeting a child aged 8 and being essentially forced to have a relationship is different.

I’d like some advice on how we can both work on fostering a healthy relationship as a trio. I knows my parental failings. Is it just a case of doing some activities with DS that DP likes? How do I navigate the sassy attitude where I think DS defences are up? I worry that the damage is done and DP will never “like” DS and even if he tried to hide it children are intuitive and so as a mother I’d have to end the relationship as DS comes first.

We’ve put moving to DPs on hold until we’re at A place that we think they have a relationship that could work. I don’t want to put DS through the mill, I need to protect him from harm because that’s my job and I love him to the moon and back.

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monkeyonthetable · 12/07/2020 06:40

Sounds like you and your partner are confusing disliking the stage your DS is at with disliking your DS. He sounds exactly like all 9-year-old boys. Selective deafness, endless monologues about Minecraft, zero ability to work out how boring they are etc.

My advice would be:
You and your partner need to develop a sense of humour about this, fast. Have a giggle together about it and recognise it is a very normal phase.

Try some practical tactic to overcome the selective deafness. I used to stand between the TV and DS to get him to listen. And I remember my dad doing that to me and me being infuriated by him, but now I know why.

Listening to someone talk about Minecraft is exceptionally dull. But playing it is fun. Play it with him occasionally. It's also OK to learn the art of saying without any show of irritation, 'OK, I can't take anymore Minecraft conversation right now, I need to think my own thoughts/get on with some work, but it was fun chatting with you.' Sounds a bit forced to us, but 9-year-olds need that sort of very direct but emotionally calm statement.

Do something together regularly as a family. No discussions or arguments, just develop something you do. We used to go out together every Saturday, all day. Either for a long walk and picnic in the country or into town to see a show or exhibition or for a day out to visit steam railway or Birdland or similar. This gives you something else to discuss: planning your day together, planning the picnic, talking about favourite parts of the outing afterwards, taking it in turns to choose and research what to do next, how to get there etc.

You could also choose a sport to do together, or he and DP could - anything from cycling to swimming, kayaking, climbing, martial arts, fishing. Let your DP take the lead on this - maybe pick three things he'd like to do and get DS to choose one of them and just do it once a week. Don't worry if DS starts out unenthusiastic for the first few months. As he gets more accomplished, his interest will grow. Or, try a different sport each week together until they find one they both love and stick with it. You could go too, but if you want them to bond better, maybe they'd like to try going out without you. (I'd only do this if your relationship with him is rock solid and you know he is going to be your son's father figure from now on.)

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BlackRibboner · 12/07/2020 06:43

OP, I don't have any experience with this kind of situation or how to approach your son - mine are much younger - but in reading your posts, I think it's obvious you care about and love your son. A lot of the replies here have been harsh and dramatic and I hope they haven't made you feel too upset. Good luck in moving things forward, I hope it works out for all of you.

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Zofloramummy · 12/07/2020 06:44

@splunkpostgres I am a single parent, dd only has supervised access so I don’t even have that time! Also been single since she was 2, had one relationship since then and it didn’t work out either.

I’m 44 and dd is 9. I won’t be looking for another relationship because I can’t honestly see what the benefit of that would be to dd or to me tbh. I don’t see my family life as being over at all as you state in your post as dd is my family! I’ve not found anyone who brings more to a relationship than I would have to compromise, I don’t see that changing even after dd has grown up.

It’s moved very quickly, dating 1 year after a divorce, moving in together after 7 months. DP doesn’t sound happy, OP doesn’t sound happy and neither does the ds. The relationship doesn’t have to be sacrificed as lockdown was exceptional circumstances there is no harm in returning to two homes and slowing things down a bit.

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GimmeAy · 12/07/2020 06:48

The relationship doesn’t have to be sacrificed as lockdown was exceptional circumstances there is no harm in returning to two homes and slowing things down a bit.

I agree with that bit of the post.

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backseatcookers · 12/07/2020 06:50

As for DP, my only advice is to hold off moving in until you really do have that deep confidence that things have genuinely improved

He moved in after about 5/6 months...

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stealm · 12/07/2020 06:50

It's all far too much too soon.
DP should move out again and you continue to see each other and you do something with your DS once a week or so, so that they can build a relationship doing fun things together and get to know each other.
Meanwhile you work on the things you claim are "irritating". If you don't want him watching too much youtube then YOU do something about this. In your OP you suggested to your DP that "WE" give him a day a week when he is allowed to watch youtube and "WE" should encourage him to watch other things. No, at this point in the relationship YOU should be parenting your child.
The whole situation doesn't sound great to be honest. The relationship might have a future if you take it back a step now but not if DP continues to live there and becomes resentful

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Mombie2016 · 12/07/2020 06:50

Christ. I have 3DC and DP of 2 years has found ways to bond with them all, without any prompting from me. Because how they are naturally with your children is the most important thing, IMO.

My middle DC has ASD and ADHD, I was braced for DP not being able to handle them, and they've actually turned out to have the best bond. DP is a huge KonMari fan, DC likes things to be orderly they've bonded over that, LEGO, (during which DP indulges the ridiculous questions DC loves to ask people with gusto) and bloody gymnastics of all things even though DP is disabled, and couldn't even walk on a beam let alone do a backwards hand spring Grin

OP, just no to all you have written. Your child is completely normal. My 3 all have wildly varying interests and they all talk to me about all sorts of crap that I know zero about and couldn't be less interested in if I tried, but I listen and encourage them.

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GimmeAy · 12/07/2020 06:51

He moved in after about 5/6 months...

7 months. Let's not start making shit up eh?

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Singinginshower · 12/07/2020 06:51

OP
It sounds as if you have identified some things e.g. Your DS spends lots of time watching TV and YouTube and then his conversation consists of talking about Minecraft and Pokemon which isn't very interesting to adults.
Would your DS be happy to watch something less specific, eg nature programmes or a programme of more mutual interest which could be chatted about?
What are your DP's interests? Is there any common ground that could be developed there?
Teaching bike riding is great, I don't think a DP would bother if he wasn't invested in wanting a relationship with your DS.

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jessstan2 · 12/07/2020 06:52

"Ultimately though. I would sling the partner if it didn’t work out...."

That is good to read, Yorkshiremummy.

I think you may have to.

Your son is probably not much different to other children of his age. Ask any parent, they can be irritating and obsessive about things. There's also the fact that your partner has joined the household and the boy doesn't know how to be around him comfortably.

Keep your home! You do at least have some independence at the moment.

Good luck.

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GimmeAy · 12/07/2020 06:53

When is a good time to introduce a new partner then? After a year? Ten years? When?

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Imknackeredzzz · 12/07/2020 06:53

@Yorkshiremummyof1

Sorry but I think your a disgrace. Your poor boy. Why are so many women so desperate to be with someone they’ll rush moving in with any old idiot at the expense of their children.

Your partner sounds awful and I feel so sorry for your poor boy

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Zeusthemoose · 12/07/2020 06:56

GimmeAy
You haven't got one fact right in your understanding of Ops posts.
DP said HE doesn't think he likes her child. He isn't concerned about Ds liking him.
He did move in after 5/6 months. He's lived there for 7.

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backseatcookers · 12/07/2020 06:57

7 months. Let's not start making shit up eh?

Christ, calm down. That extra weeks 4-8 weeks makes a huge difference, eh?

But I'll absolutely correct my previous post which was in response to someone saying they would delay living together - he moved in after seven months.

So still ridiculously soon to move a man into a home with a nine year old child who has already been through a lot of upheaval.

It's not going well is it, otherwise OP wouldn't have posted! So yes, far too soon to move in with her and her child, whether 5/6 or 7 months into a new relationship.

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GimmeAy · 12/07/2020 06:57

Personally, I'd be worried about the amount of screen time your ds is having, but since you're already getting a kicking, I didn't mention it. I used to have the same issues with dc, so DP was great for getting them out playing footie or tennis. Do you have rackets? And balls? And an area for them to play? You could have DS and DP training him against you. Well that's how it worked for me. As I said, they ganged up on me mostly. Lol.

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UmberOmbreUma · 12/07/2020 06:58

I can't get past moving in with your DP when you have only been together a year

You have a 9 year old! What on earth made you think that moving your DP in after a year was a good idea or normal?

I think you need to get in touch with someone and take some parenting courses because this does not read like you have DS interest at heart. Only your DP's

The fact your DP was happy to move in with you and a child after such a short time is leaving alarm bells for me too

My advice is

Kick DP out, you have no need to be living together at this point and its clearly affecting your DS.

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GimmeAy · 12/07/2020 07:00

How is it affecting the DS?

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LumpSatAlone · 12/07/2020 07:00

We could all be screaming in your face that you are getting into another shitty relationship BUT until you are ready to hear it UNTIL you've realised its shit, then you'll never listen to what we are all screaming.

This time it won't just be you that the SHITTY relationship you are in and about to get deeper into will be damaging.
Its not worth it and anyway what are you actually getting out of being with your DP?

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Sleepyblueocean · 12/07/2020 07:01

This is all too rushed. Don't move into your Dp's house. I think you are better off living in separate houses if you are going to stay with him. This situation is not good for your son.

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backseatcookers · 12/07/2020 07:01

Btw - I don't like other peoples' children either.

Presumably you would have been sensible then and with that in mind wouldn't have moved in with someone and their child after 6/7 months?

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Singinginshower · 12/07/2020 07:03

Zeusthemoose
The DP has said he is worried that the DS will realise he doesn't enjoy spending time with him ( due to Minecraft monologues etc)
That is not the same as the DP saying he doesn't like the child.

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HugeAckmansWife · 12/07/2020 07:03

splunk in a single mum to two tweens. About 18 months after ex left I started a seeing a guy. 4 years later we still don't live together and he sees my kids mostly in passing if they are still up when he comes round once or twice a week in the evening. We have eow to do proper dates. He's dating me, not them and if it doesn't work out they'll not notice much difference. It's entirely possible to have a relationship as a sp, it just might not look quite like previous relationships. OP I think you moved to fast but he doesn't sound like a bad guy and this is potentially salvageable but I do think he could move out, use end of lockdown as an excuse to ds if you like so he doesn't think its his fault and sort of start again, more slowly. If he likes D&D try Magic the Gathering, it's a fantasy card game for two, like complicated top trumps and has a lot of scope for in depth discussion. Your DS sounds almost exactly like mine.. I put a cushion on the floor that he's not allowed to step in front of by the way!

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GimmeAy · 12/07/2020 07:04

Presumably you would have been sensible then and with that in mind wouldn't have moved in with someone and their child after 6/7 months?

The occasion never cropped up, but I might have. I would realise that I would be the usurper though, so tread carefully. As the DP seems to be doing - he just doesn't feel confident enough parenting.

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Melonslicexx · 12/07/2020 07:05

The thing is all kids are "annoying" because they are at a different stage of life to us. They want to talk about kid things. He's not going to ask your partner about stuff he's interested in is he? My dad liked fish, F1 and football. Yes I liked looking at the huge koi and the sound of motor racing makes me nostalgic. But at the time I was not interested in it anymore than he was in my obsession with digests and Barbie.

My five year old irritates me. She talks aload of rubbish half the time. It's enough to zap the final bit of energy I have. But she needs to go through this stage to mature.

I think you need to consider how unfair your partner is being. If he doesn't love your lad like he's his flesh and blood then it's risky moving in with him. Especially when he's expressing a dislike for him. Perhaps he just isn't good with kids? Getting to know a child at 8/9 is very different from them being in nappies.

Also your son will pick up on things. I think your partner needs to either change his attitude or you need to split. Your son is an innocent normal child! If he has no siblings then he has nobody in lockdown to waffle with. My DD has her toddler brother. But ultimately she is talking to us more because she has lost her school life. Your poor son has had a weird few months. I'm sure we all were similar at his age.

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Iloveyoutothefridgeandback · 12/07/2020 07:05

Sorry if it's been mentioned and I've missed this, I did rtft but there's a lot if info there - what is the reason for moving to DP's place? Does he own his own property, and so is thinking it will save everyone money if you all move in there? This gives him a lot of power. That might not be a problem, but it depends how much you trust him and how secure the future of your relationship is.

I would prioritise sorting the relationship between DS and DP. Maybe think of it that you will all move to his place once you are really satisfied that they are getting on well. It will probably take a long time but it doesn't sound like you need to rush as you be said you can afford to live alone with DS.

Your DS doesn't have the power to change his situation. He lives where and with whoever you decide he does. So I would be very careful about living with someone who you know finds him so irritating, as he will pick up on this.

FWIW I think your DS sounds like a very normal 9 year old boy. Especially in regards to talking about boring topics... does your DP expect your son to ask him how work is going and what kind of projects he's working on?! 9 year olds have their own specific interests and don't give a shit about anything outside of that. Your DP needs to just suck it up and get talking about Minecraft.

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