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AIBU that this is likely to happen?

144 replies

LastRoloIsMine · 11/07/2020 21:50

OK so this may be a hoax/fake news from twitter but regardless of that and given I have seen so many my tesco/Asda/Hermes driver text me and asked me out posts on MN this worries me.

Back story she went to the pub the bar tender brought her drink said no charge.
She has not been on Tinder for 2 years & has a boyfriend plus her FB is set to highest settings.

AIBU to think this will happen to lots of women who hand over their personal details and I fear it could go further than just a message?

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LonginesPrime · 12/07/2020 00:02

I reported something to them (a company refusing to give me the data they held on me, and were claiming they'd already deleted it, which would have been against their own DP policy) and they did nothing.

An internal policy breach in deleting information (thus rendering it safe from distribution) is quite different from a data breach leading to harmful consequences.

LastRoloIsMine · 12/07/2020 00:08

For those in power and let's face it is men, to recognise that this is an issue and put immediate action in place.
Within a week of lockdown you could be spot fined for being in a park so spot fine anyone who uses personal info gained through employment to contact another person without consent. Sack them for gross misconduct.

Don't make it a GDPR ICO problem as that takes so long it will never amount to anything.

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ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble · 12/07/2020 00:12

@LastRoloIsMine

Pardon?
That's how replies normally go when you bring up an issue with men.

The replies you got have followed the pattern.

This isn't real.
Well if it is it won't happen that often, you're just against track and trace.
Stay at home.
It's romantic.
Women do it too.

Etc.

CoRhona · 12/07/2020 00:13

This is not about BAD men and VICTIM women, despite you repeating this at every opportunity.

This is about a possibly made up story that you've started a thread on to highlight the action of a potentially fictional person acting badly towards another potentially fictional person.

You seriously need a very large grip Wink

Somethingkindaoooo · 12/07/2020 00:18

@GotGameByThePound

A guy once got my details when I opened up a Blockbuster account and used it to find me on Facebook.

Its an invasion of privacy and it feels horrible. This is going to make people not want to participate!

Thst blew my.mind..... Were Blockbuster and FB around at the same time?

It's like trying to work out if cavemen lived at the same time as dinosaurs...

LonginesPrime · 12/07/2020 00:22

Within a week of lockdown you could be spot fined for being in a park so spot fine anyone who uses personal info gained through employment to contact another person without consent

The police can't issue a spot fine if they don't witness the crime - it's completely different from finding someone in a park.

LastRoloIsMine · 12/07/2020 00:22

ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble

I agree sorry for my earlier confusion.

As highlighted by the comment from CoRhona just under yours.

I must be making it up.
Its false.
Its 1 women.

I have been here along while and seen so many posts of delivery drivers crossing boundaries in fact there are at least 4 posts on this thread saying how men have breeched that position simply as they had the OPs details. A bank teller was one!

But yeah I am just making it up as women are just hysterical paranoid sillys.

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LonginesPrime · 12/07/2020 00:24

Were Blockbuster and FB around at the same time?

MySpace perhaps?

LastRoloIsMine · 12/07/2020 00:25

FB started 2004
Blockbusters closed 2010.

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LastRoloIsMine · 12/07/2020 00:30

The police can't issue a spot fine if they don't witness the crime - it's completely different from finding someone in a park.

They used my details that I gave them strictly for 1 purpose for a purpose I did not consent to. Is that not enough evidence?

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Z0rr0 · 12/07/2020 00:31

I'm with you @lastroloismine it's a shocking breach of GDPR, basic privacy and abuse of privileged information. And not an isolated incident. A woman in Germany posted in a FB group I'm in that a waiter guy in a restaurant did this to her. Contacted her multiple times on Facebook and Insta despite being declined the first time. Really creepy and wrong. And apparently a new gauntlet for women to run. Fecking great. People on the group were divided on reporting it given the current precarious jobs situation, but I do think it should be flagged to someone in the bar / restaurant. Potentially they could face massive fines for breaching the protection of info. (They also passed a sheet around for collecting the info so they could see the details of other diners.)

LastRoloIsMine · 12/07/2020 00:36

shush Z0rr0 you are making it up. It never happens and if it does then the women is at fault and she should have stayed in.

Truth is its just another avenue for men to breech our boundaries. Means another thing women have to police.
Heres an idea.
How about we have a zero tolerance policy for men who do this. I mean use the ones that do as an example. Show them what their punishment will be.
Or we can take the easy option and blame women...

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ComeOnBabyPopMyBubble · 12/07/2020 00:41

How about we have a zero tolerance policy for men who do this.

I agree no uhmmming and ahhing whether to report or not. No "lost job, 3 starving kids at home,everyone living on the streets" bullshit. No it was a mistake. No thinking that you might "ruin" his life.

It happens report to employer. If the employer brushes it under the carpet report to ICO. Depending on how insistent/aggressive (even in text) he is , report to the police as well.

Z0rr0 · 12/07/2020 00:42

Honestly I'm quite surprised by some of the responses here. What if that guy sent dick pics? Surely any unwanted, unrequested attention over an abuse of privileged information would make people take note and condemn his actions, not shrug it off or tell women to stay in, (don't forget neck to ankle coverings and chastity belt).

LastRoloIsMine · 12/07/2020 00:44

Its romantic apparently....

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user1473878824 · 12/07/2020 00:45

I saw this on Twitter but personally think it’s a load of bollocks simply made up as a boast.

user1473878824 · 12/07/2020 00:48

@emmcan

This is why you don't give a real name and number - FFS
And what if someone who works there then gets diagnosed with COVID and you’re happily walking around infecting people?!

“ Christ we have Jeff throwing a wobbler cos Tescos breached GDPR my sending him a club card.
Clair gets freaking stalked and its her fault for going out!” I do completely agree with you @LastRoloIsMinex but I think the twitter thing from your first post is made up.

LastRoloIsMine · 12/07/2020 00:49

Honestly I'm quite surprised by some of the responses here.

I am not.
Women have been conditioned to excuse and put up with mens bad behaviour from birth.

He only hits you cos he likes you
Hes only bothered where you are/who you talk to cos he cares
Yes he forgot your birthday but he did make you a coffee last Tuesday
Hes only angry cos he loves you/is scared
Hes possessive/jelaous cos he loves you

It is always explained away as not really harmful or more often than not the womens fault.

Feminist books should be on the national curriculum for all from 10 upwards.

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LastRoloIsMine · 12/07/2020 00:53

but I think the twitter thing from your first post is made up.

I did say in my opening line it could be a hoax/fake but then again what evidence is there that it is?

At least 4 posters on this thread have given similar accounts. Are they lying too?
The multiple delivery driver text me and asked me out posts on mn are they also lying?

Why is the default when men behave badly for which we have evidence of is women are lying?

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NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 12/07/2020 02:42

I think it's romantic

I despair Sad

user1473878824 · 12/07/2020 04:49

I’ve had it with two mini cab drivers years ago, who also then knew where I live, I now always book taxis half way down the street just in case. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen or excusing it. I am saying a post going “OMG you’re so beautiful and amazing I couldn’t help myself” is made up.

squeekums · 12/07/2020 07:03

When you go to a pub or restaurant you have to give your name and number for track and trace covid rules

I'd be using a fake name and number. That simple

Why should women not go out cos some men are dickheads and abuse their position? Sounds much like if she didnt wanna be raped, dont wear a mini skirt

squeekums · 12/07/2020 07:06

I think it's romantic

Ewww

LouJ85 · 12/07/2020 07:40

"Women have been conditioned to excuse and put with men's bad behaviour from birth" ?

I think that's one hell of a sweeping generalisation! I certainly haven't been, that's for sure. I was raised by my Dad who taught me and all my sisters that we are worthy and deserve respect and love from men, and anything less is not good enough. Don't assume all women feel the same.

Harassment and unwanted sexual attention can come from anywhere, at any time, by any gender. And there are means of dealing with it. If the situation you described were to happen to me, depending on the nature of the first message / contact, I’d just explain I wasn’t interested and ask them politely to leave me alone. I’d probably also give the restaurant a heads up that their employee is misusing days. If the first message was sexually explicit or offensive etc, or if the person persisted despite my requests to leave me alone, I’d consider that harassment and i’d report to police. How much longer is the behaviour likely to continue when it’s been reported? Probably not long.

Ultimately, I think how you feel about this is going to be determined by your own past experiences and whether you believe men generally have bad intentions towards women and represent a threat. I personally don’t.

LouJ85 · 12/07/2020 07:41

*misusing data, not days!