AIBU that this is likely to happen?

[LastRoloIsMine]

OK so this may be a hoax/fake news from twitter but regardless of that and given I have seen so many my tesco/Asda/Hermes driver text me and asked me out posts on MN this worries me.

Back story she went to the pub the bar tender brought her drink said no charge.
She has not been on Tinder for 2 years & has a boyfriend plus her FB is set to highest settings.

AIBU to think this will happen to lots of women who hand over their personal details and I fear it could go further than just a message?

@LonginesPrime

When you go to a pub or restaurant you have to give your name and number for track and trace covid rules.

It's a breach of GDPR to use it for asking someone out of a date - they can report it to the ICO (www.ico.org.uk).

^ This. It's serious.

Not sure why people are not seeing the issue, I think this is a real downside with the system put in place for the pubs.

I agree you can report - but life is a lot easier if people don't have access to your address.

Not sure what can be done except report if anyone gets in touch.

AlternativePerspective

OP, I suggest you stay locked up in your house forever. Never order anything online, ever.

So because I order clothes or groceries on line that means its ok for the delivery driver to use my personal details to ask me out?

Are you saying that its my fault?

WOW.
So women are to blame if they shop on line just like men do if male delivery drivers give us unwanted attention.
So we should stay indoors and never do anything then?

So let’s not be hysterical

Your misogyny is showing.

I'm in Scotland so haven't been to a pub or restaurant yet - do you seriously have to give your address?

I can just about get by with providing a contact number, but there's not a chance in hell I'd be giving my address out in this instance.

But people have always had access to your address.

Every time you order a delivery, or a grocery order, or a takeaway, or something from amazon, or a taxi, they instantly know your address, your name and your telephone number.

Why is track and trace suddenly so much more paranoia inducing than all those other things.

In fact in the above it’s far more of a risk surely as not only do those people know your address, but they have actually. Been there. They know what your house looks like, what kind of car you drive whether you’re alone there during the day, etc etc etc.

So if you are worried, tell them you can leave a number but it has to be your dad/husband/brother (it doesn't have to be male, it could be your girlfriend....just ay its not actually you) but ask the person taking the detail to make a note and no idiot is going to phone your dad asking for a date? And if they do, phone the venue and report by email to the IOC.

You are missing the point.

Why should I have to leave false details?
Men don't have to.
Why cant men be responsible?
Why do I have to lie to stop men from doing the wrong thing?

Wtf does this have to do with blaming women?

Nobody said it was women’s fault. But if you’re so paranoid that hoards of men are going to want to go out with you based on you having given out your address in a bar then perhaps you ought to stay home for your own peace of mind....

And do you really think that it’s only men who would do this?

Get a bloody grip.

But people have always had access to your address.
Every time you order a delivery, or a grocery order, or a takeaway, or something from amazon, or a taxi, they instantly know your address, your name and your telephone number.

Yes and I dont expect them to use it for their personal advantage.
Now men who have never had access before to that info suddenly do and not all of them will adhere to the rules. So now women have another group of men who they have to manage along with delivery drivers.

I have reported this thread.

It is clearly deliberately designed to encourage people to not take part in track and trace. Based on what, some nameless stranger on social media.

You do know that not everything on twitter is real don’t you?

And that people post stuff on mn all the time that isn’t real either. And most of those are ... oh, I don’t know.... women....

And women have access to it as well. Or do you think that only men would use an address to ask someone out on a date.

As someone posted upthread, there have been posters who work in e.g. coffee shops who have fancied a bloke who came in and they have been encouraged to look him up on fb.

a grip is not needed.

I read womens turmoil at the thought of getting the tesco driver sacked because he text them and asked them out and he knows they live alone.

Do not reduce womens known fear of strange men as hysterical or our problem.
Women spend their life avoiding unwanted atrention from men.
Its not a womens problem. Its a men problem why should we lock ourselves away?

It is clearly deliberately designed to encourage people to not take part in track and trace. Based on what, some nameless stranger on social media

No its not.
I have no problem with track and trace.
I have a problem with the unsafe men that have access to it.

As someone posted upthread, there have been posters who work in e.g. coffee shops who have fancied a bloke who came in and they have been encouraged to look him up on fb.

Look him up.

Not contact him.
Not blatantly use personal data.
Big difference.

If you can't see that then you are part of the problem.

I think it's romantic.
There are loads of threads on here asking how to meet new partners.

(Ducking and running away slowly because I'm old)

Yuck that is really inappropriate.

@mineofuselessinformation

Anyone who receives a communication based on personal info should immediately report it - it breaches GDPR and can result in massive fines to the organisation involved. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.csoonline.com/article/3383244/how-to-report-a-data-breach-under-gdpr.amp.html

THIS!!!

With bells on!

"I definitely didn't use track and trace"
Yes he bloody well did"

This is a MASSIVE breech.

Now men who have never had access before to that info suddenly do and not all of them will adhere to the rules

They come across this info by virtue of their employment so they're perfectly traceable - it's not like some random is writing women's numbers on the back of a toilet door!

I do think you're blowing this out if all proportion, OP - not because the harassment of women is no big deal but because you're not the first person to think of these risks - the solutions are already written into law.

I think it's romantic.

God help us.

I hope AlternativePerspective does not get this deleted despite their attempts as I genuinely belive this is an issue and if not right now it will be.

Women know giving men access to our personal space makes us vulnerable.

We learn from a young age to avoid it.
We dont go out alone after dark.
We stay in well lit areas.
We dont wear provocative clothes or get drunk
We avoid being alone with strange men
We stay in groups
We keep anon on line.
We dont share personal details like where we live..

These instructionsare never given to men. Ever.

Yet some creep sending unwanted messages as he stole my details is now my fault I am paranoid and must stay in doors.
.

OP you need to step back in line. Instead of Hail Mary's this is your new mantra. Repeat after me.

It never happens.
If it happens then it's not that bad.
If it happens it's her fault.
If it happens it was a mistake.

Pardon?

the solutions are already written into law.

How often does that law work in our favour?

@LonginesPrime

And how many women have to put up with this while the IOC take an age to investigate and then do nothing?

The ICO can fine their employer. It's not like the culprit is anonymous as you know where they work - report it to their boss or head office too. And if women are being harassed, there are separate laws for that too.

It's already illegal so I'm not really sure what you're suggesting should be done. Do you have another course of action in mind?

They could, but they won't. They were months behind on their work even when they'd only just opened. They don't care about small fry; they are after big breaches they can fine companies hundreds of thousands for.

I reported something to them (a company refusing to give me the data they held on me, and were claiming they'd already deleted it, which would have been against their own DP policy) and they did nothing.

How often does that law work in our favour?

Ok then, I'll ask again - what is it you're seeking as a solution here then?

Vigilante action? Boycott Track and Trace?

But yes. If you are worried dont go to the pub.

Yes. Know your place. Stay at home. Silly woman