To ask what you think of Eastern Europeans living in the UK?

[Bananasinpjs7]

I have lived in the UK for almost 10 years which is pretty much a 1/3 of my life. I never thought I’d stay this long but met my partner here and decided to build a career in an industry that we don’t really have in my home country... yet.
I’m trying my best... language wise I think I’m pretty fluent. English is the language I speak 95% of the time.
I try to fit in as much as possible, learn as much as I can about the UK to understand it’s history and culture...
But I feel extremely left out ... I feel people look at me and think ‘she is from eastern eu’ as if it has some sort of stigma. It feels like if you are from somewhere glamorous like France or Scandinavian countries you are much more accepted... I’m so tired of constantly feeling like this

But you kept on saying Eastern Europe. When I said Western Europe you were quick to specify one country, i.e. every country is different. So why are you happy to bundle up together several countries inc. those which are not EE?

Some Brits might say that the problems of racism and anti semitism are being imported from Eastern Europe. But in your opinion, that’s ok, they should have to put up with that for several generations?

@DrinkFeckArseGirls

“In Eastern Europe, a once large and vibrant Jewish population has nearly disappeared. DellaPergola estimates that there were 3.4 million Jews in the European portions of the Soviet Union as of 1939. Many were killed in the Holocaust, and others moved to Israel or elsewhere. Today, a tiny fraction of the former Soviet republics’ population – an estimated 310,000 people – are Jews.

Similar trends have occurred in Eastern European countries that were outside the USSR, including Poland, Hungary, Romania and several other nations. Collectively, they were home to about 4.7 million Jews in 1939, but now there are probably fewer than 100,000 Jews in all these countries combined.“

I was more specific earlier.

I also said, that in the U.K., the term Eastern Europe generally refers to the accession countries, including Bulgaria and Romania.

Are Jewish people welcome in Western Europe. TazSyd

Well, I couldn't understand why you were asking about EE. Maybe I am dumb but I was genuinely baffled by your question. We have Jewish people in EE and they're part of our country. I thought everyone knows it.

But now I understand why you asked those questions about non-white, non-Christian, Jewish is because you had a specific agenda. You wanted to find something that would make me a racist either as a person or as EE. Maybe you didn't mean it but this is how I am feeling now.
At first I couldn't understand why you were asking all those questions, then it felt like an attack and later like bullying.

randomer
“What races are Eastern European? Does it include Polish people?”

No, Poland is a Central European country like Hungary, Czechia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Austria and Germany.

@WhatifIfeellikeacat

You’ve been called out for stating some opinions that are not generally acceptable in the U.K.

Are Jewish people welcome in Western Europe. TazSyd

Sorry, that question wasn't referred to me.

@DrinkFeckArseGirls. ...

You might as well give up now with this 'central Europe ' thing. People won't have it....
Too busy virtue signalling.

Many were killed in the Holocaust, and others moved to Israel or elsewhere.

You are completely ignoring the effect of the war and changes in regime. Like some EE countries were first occupied by germans, with the obvious result.. jewish people being murdered, imprisoned or running away.

Then communism settled in with the same horrifying results.

Both being imposed on the people rather than by the people.

The numbers are actually really helpful in showing that EE countries were not anti semitic, and if they became like that as states(not population) it was because of the war ,political changes and laws and rules imposed by dictators.

Pogroms started in the late C19. Many Jews fled to the West prior to WW2 because of this.

TazSyd, and I am not a Holocaust denier. That part of history is very shameful.

That's right many fled to Paris....
Then later they wished they hadn't. ...
Suite Francaise by Irene Nemirovsky is interesting. But not as interesting as the story of her life before she was deported from France to Auschwitz. Her daughter who was left behind as a tiny child wrote it.

Pogroms started in the late C19.
times of the Russian Empire. Again - a hostile foreign regime on EE nations, which did not get independence until after WW1.

@TazSyd however the mass reduction in population have been since 1940 and after.

In 1930 there were 756.930 jews in my home country. Way more than in the UK now.

In 1940 there were 728.115 (including the territories occupied by USSR and Hungary)

Only 410.000 in 1945.
146.264 in 1956.

Coincidence?

Then we had communism(not by choice)which dwindled their numbers even more.

But nice try making the numbers suit a completely made up reductive narrative that completely ignores the history of the countries you're trying to besmirch.

Honestly? Not much different to any British citizen.

The only thing I raise my eyebrows at are people who live for years in any country for years and never learn any of that language.

I have a few European mates. One speaks better queens English ( Oxford accent) than me. The other one is more worldly than me. I think different nationalities are good generally for society when they contribute. I have never personally met a EU citizen in the UK who either hasn’t worked or hasn’t got a partner with a job.

I’m sorry you feel like this. If you a decent person, that’s all I would see and think

The problem is people who are unable to differentiate between Eastern Europeans. They just say Eastern Europeans en block.
EE is a pretty vast region. So what does EE mean? Polish? Czech? Hungarian? Romanian?
Most Westerners are ignorant of those countries and their different cultures.
I just read a couple of pages ago someone claiming that EE people nod when they mean no, and shake their head when they mean yes. WHAT? NOBODY does this in EE. It only applies to Bulgarians. And Bulgaria is on the Balkan. It is not EE. What baffling ignorance!

@formerbabe

I really struggle to believe that if hundreds of thousands of British people of varying religions and ethnicities migrated to an EE country either working or on benefits, using their public services etc that they'd be given a warm welcome by everyone there..I just don't think it would happen. I might be wrong.

The effects of EU migration on Britain in 5 charts from the FT

1. Migrants from the eastern European countries that joined the EU after 2004 are more likely to be working than any other group in Britain.

1. An average adult migrant from one of the original 13 EU member states (excluding the UK and Ireland) contributed £3,740 more to Britain’s exchequer than an average UK citizen; an eastern European migrant accession countries paid an average of £1,040 more.

www.ft.com/content/797f7b42-bb44-11e8-94b2-17176fbf93f5

I wouldn’t think anything of it. As far as I’m aware there isn’t a stigma with Eastern European’s

@GrishainDisguise

The information you posted appears unrelated to the comment of mine which you reposted

Taz should learn about English pogroms and expelling. and why most Jews were settled in Poland.
Also, if someone was born in a country you belive is a hell and left (clearly didn't like it) it's ok to be nasty towards them. This logic is, pardon me, fucked.

There is small Jewish community in Poland because millions of Poles died in Holocus including about 3 millions of polish Jews. Nonetheless, polish Jewish council have to publish one statement after another because all the misconceptions about them and their life in Poland.
btw.It's funny you talk about antisemitism as it's a big problem in western Europe. Bigger than in Poland.

Also, there are black Poles ( some are even nationalists) And black migrants in Poland. So what you suggest? That they should be deemed as traitors of woke xenophobies?
What about huge vietnamese community?
It's funny that you have no idea about any of those countries you are bashing but you are certain you are right. Oh, and here wa huge influx of economic migrants in Poland. And there are Muslim migrant as well as refugees and ethnic minority. You have no idea.

Your posting reminds me about BBC's hysteria before Euro2012. Nothing actually happend then.

In fact attacks are on LGBT and Ukrainians (very complex issues I don't expect you to know about)
The true problem in Poland is influence of Catholic Church and power it gained after IIWW. And that also caused people leaving Poland. Many of those ugly economic migrants are for example gay. So bravo for adding to someone's trauma.

Don't care where anybody comes from. I do care if people are law abiding, tax paying, good neighbour and friendly. I'd rather ship off right wing Brits to some uninhabited island than complain about some east European migrants who have chosen the UK as home.

An average adult migrant from one of the original 13 EU member states (excluding the UK and Ireland) contributed £3,740 more to Britain’s exchequer than an average UK citizen
What's an average U.K. citizen? If it includes all the over 65s then they are on pensions and probably contributing less than working people - I don't think many immigrants are retirees.

Yes it's not really an equal comparison. Most people from Central Europe are of working age.

Yes, so if you think about it £3740 is not a great deal.
We are going to let people in on a points basis - hmm that's nice, let the well off educated middle class guys in (I say guys because in many countries women don't get the same opportunities ) and the poor, homeless who would really benefit don't get in.
That's as well as taking their nurses and doctors on a regular basis.
I don't know the answer. Just raising points to show how complicated it is.