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Built a cabin and neighbour not happy.

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ReginaaPhalange · 09/07/2020 16:39

This week, we built a cabin in our back garden and we have complied 100% with guidance which states the highest point must not exceed 2.5m in height. Our cabin is 2.3m at its highest point. We have not put it up against the fence, we have left a good amount of room to fit an adult down the back and around the sides for painting, maintenance and pick up any weeds etc.

On Tuesday, my DH was doing the roof and his bottle of water went into the neighbours garden. This neighbour lives at the back of us, so I went round and politely advised her of what had happened and asked if I could go into her garden and collect the bottle of water and any off cuts that may have come away too. She allowed me to do this and there was literally the water and one small piece of wood, so I took that away and said to my DH who was still on the roof to be careful and he even shouted over to the neighbour to apologise.

When I went to leave, she came out her back door (we were keeping 2m apart) and started saying she's not happy about the cabin, said it's in her view when she looks out of her kitchen window and told me she had spoken to her children (they're away from home with kids etc so probably similar ages with me (30's) )and her kids were apparently not happy either Incase it blocks out the sun. I can confirm when I went round, this was not the case, the sun was beating down and her garden was not obstructed.

Further more, the neighbour said she was not happy that we had not told her of our plans and that we should have told her. I did tell my husband prior to delivery of the cabin that we should maybe tell her, but he said as it was within the guidance of height etc, it did not require planning permission and he didn't need to advise her. In hindsight I wish I maybe did give her a heads up.

Yesterday when DH was tidying up the edging of the room, he overheard the neighbour moaning on the phone saying it's such an eye sore, how it was just there when she came home and how disappointed it is. Now, I fully understand if she had beautiful views from her kitchen window, but she doesn't. Her window looks out to her back garden, fence then the back of our house.

Today, her friend walked around to our house, stood at the end of my driveway, looked into the garden, shook her head and walked away. I didn't say anything as I had just come out the shower and still had my towel around me (I was looking out for the yodel courier when I noticed it).

Further more, 3 years ago, when me and DH were at work, she had her BIL hack away the base of our fence so she would double panel the fence. The fence is owned by us and on our boundary and she acknowledged that, but she never told us she was going to do it. We just found out when we came home from work to find half the base of our fence gone!! We never kicked off, we actually went to her door to ask her if we could panel OUR fence up the back. She was fine and so were we. We have never spoken to her since as you can't see her in the garden as fence is double panelled, we live on different streets so we both have different entrance/ exit routes and our paths have never crossed so it's not a case of avoiding her.

Earlier when I was upstairs I noticed her at the fence (I was talking out to husband asking what he wanted for lunch). She was snooping around and I can only think she was maybe looking for off cuts which fell into her garden, but DH said there's definitely nothing there as he peeked over and checked.

I'm not sure if I should say something to her or just leave it and just hope she leaves it alone, but our neighbours next door who we get on brilliantly with have said they have had problems with her snooping before, peeking over the fence and asking when they had a baby as she saw baby clothes on the line (they have never spoken to her before)

3 years ago btw, she told us her name was (let's say) Barbara (not her real name), but when I was speaking to her on Tuesday, I said "it's Barbara isn't it?" And she said "no, it's Mavis(changed)." I found that a bit off too.... even DH had said to me no, she definitely told us her name was Barbara(charged).

Odd... anyway, I digress. Should I leave it or approach her about it, maybe give her flowers as an apology for not telling her about the cabin?

Cabin will be used as a wee gym for me (treadmill and weights) and she knows this. She did say "thank god it's not a hot tub"

OP posts:
MrsBadcrumble123 · 11/07/2020 11:56

We’ve had exactly this! Neighbour actually came round and told us what we was doing is illegal and was quite rude - advises him to call the council and we are happy to let council in to check. He scuttled away muttering! We are bloody good neighbours too so he can piss office he he thinks we’ll be cutting his hedges or taking parcels in anymore. It does affect his sunlight or view he just doesn’t like it. He has a huge dirty great conservatory which I think looks worse than our tasteful cabin!

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 11/07/2020 12:10

Neighbour actually came round and told us what we was doing is illegal and was quite rude

It's astonishing how many entitled people genuinely seem to think that their not liking something for any reason is enough to make it illegal.

And considering that, even if you have committed a murder or bank robbery, the arresting police will (usually) make you aware of it in nonchalant, civil terms, it's quite something when they treat you rudely and abusively for putting up a shed that they don't like!

linsey2581 · 11/07/2020 13:32

@ReginaaPhalange There was a thread on here last week about a woman was complaining that her neighbour has just built a huge shed in her garden without asking her first. OP I wonder if this was your neighbour???

Dkr23 · 11/07/2020 13:42

Why not tell your neighbour what you were planning before putting it up? Just for the sake of friendly relations. It’s nothing to do with her being “an old lonely woman with nothing to do”. I’m in my 30’s with 3 kids and zero time but I still get worked Up by neighbors doing things thst are in my sight and on my boundary without the courtesy of telling me beforehand

gumball37 · 11/07/2020 14:19

Sounds like you should now look into adding a hot tub 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Coronabegone · 11/07/2020 14:33

But why would you get worked up @Dkr23 , it's not going to change a thing if they told you beforehand, it's not going to be less on your boundary or less in your sight. TBH I think advising beforehand can lead to discussion about size or position and it's not going to change, so why bother?

MotherPiglet · 11/07/2020 14:52

Leave it, she'll move on eventually... and if she doesnt, buy a hot tub!

MotherPiglet · 11/07/2020 14:53

Also I've never known anyone have to speak to their neighbours before putting up a shed or a summer house.. it's your property, fill the garden with them if you wish

Motoko · 11/07/2020 16:01

Why do people feel they have a right to know if someone's going to put a shed up in their own garden? Would you say you didn't like the idea, and hope they'd change their mind?

Binny36 · 11/07/2020 16:09

Why do people feel they have a right to know if someone's going to put a shed up in their own garden?

Because in some areas like where I live (London) we practically live on top of each other as homes are very close so it’s common courtesy to let neighbours you you having work done due to noise and other considerations.

sonjadog · 11/07/2020 16:18

The trouble with talking to them beforehand, is that they can say no and then you are more obviously doing something they don't want, which will make neighbour relations even worse. And if they say no and you don't do it, even though it is in within regulations, then to what extent are you giving your neighbours control of other things that you do on your property in the future? Why do they get to decide this time and not other times? So I reckon it is better to check you are within regulations and then do whatever you like with your own property.

ZombieLizzieBennet · 11/07/2020 16:19

@Dkr23

Why not tell your neighbour what you were planning before putting it up? Just for the sake of friendly relations. It’s nothing to do with her being “an old lonely woman with nothing to do”. I’m in my 30’s with 3 kids and zero time but I still get worked Up by neighbors doing things thst are in my sight and on my boundary without the courtesy of telling me beforehand
Why assume telling the neighbour beforehand would aid with friendly relations? If she doesn't want them to do it, says so, perhaps gets the idea she might be able to persuade them otherwise and they go ahead and do it anyway, how's that going to help?

Also, you getting worked up really isn't the fault of the neighbours...

Dkr23 · 11/07/2020 16:34

Every time I’ve been pre-warned by neighbours on the left I’ve not been bothered at all as I will know in advance there will be noise n disruption etc. I have had zero issues with them and have often let their builders park in my driveway. The neighbours on right never tell me anything so I’ve been awoken with banging and drilling all throughout my maternity leave! Not every person is the same but a pre-warn can be tried if they start asking Too many questions then next time don’t ore-warm them. Whenever neighbours in left have told me I’ve never pried and any asked questions I just say “thanks for letting me know and don’t worry if you need parking you can park in driveway as husband will be leaving at x hour”. I just think it’s manners to let people know there will be sone disruption. If we lived in mansions with no neighbours right in our faces then that’s a different story

Coronabegone · 11/07/2020 16:41

But the complaint wasn't about noise @Dkr23 and you being on maternity leave is irrelevant, work still goes ahead wether you're on ML, new baby or just tired.

I really don't get this "I need to be forewarned" attitude, you don't, the work I have goes ahead at the convenience to me, no one else.

areallthenamesusedup · 11/07/2020 16:45

I disagree. I think you should make it clear you are well within your rights and in line with regulations but see if you can work with her to soften the look. Can you plant something to screen it? You don’t need to fully screen but if you put one tree/bush blocking sight line it might make things better. You have to live next door to these people. Why not try and make things better?

whateveryouneed · 11/07/2020 16:56

If something 2.3m is blocking her sunlight, my uncle would also block her sunlight if he stood in your garden.

Your neighbour is ridiculous.

ZombieLizzieBennet · 11/07/2020 17:02

@Dkr23

Every time I’ve been pre-warned by neighbours on the left I’ve not been bothered at all as I will know in advance there will be noise n disruption etc. I have had zero issues with them and have often let their builders park in my driveway. The neighbours on right never tell me anything so I’ve been awoken with banging and drilling all throughout my maternity leave! Not every person is the same but a pre-warn can be tried if they start asking Too many questions then next time don’t ore-warm them. Whenever neighbours in left have told me I’ve never pried and any asked questions I just say “thanks for letting me know and don’t worry if you need parking you can park in driveway as husband will be leaving at x hour”. I just think it’s manners to let people know there will be sone disruption. If we lived in mansions with no neighbours right in our faces then that’s a different story
But this isn't about noise, so that example isn't relevant. The neighbour has a problem with the existence of the cabin full stop.
LittlePearl · 11/07/2020 17:06

We're building a shepherd's hut in our garden this autumn. Have checked re pp and we don't need it but we have told our neighbours anyway, out of courtesy.

I'm surprised how many people say they wouldn't bother to do this. We just assume it's better to keep on good terms with neighbours, where possible.

It's too late for that now so probably best to be pleasant when contact is necessary but leave it at that. Enjoy your new garden room!

Coronabegone · 11/07/2020 17:10

it’s common courtesy to let neighbours you you having work done due to noise and other considerations.

What other considerations @Binny36?

SimonJT · 11/07/2020 17:12

You can get those gnomes who are bending over with their pants down, they look lovely on cabin roofs

Binny36 · 11/07/2020 17:14

we have told our neighbours anyway, out of courtesy. I'm surprised how many people say they wouldn't bother to do this. We just assume it's better to keep on good terms with neighbours, where possible.

Totally agree with you @LittlePearl

MotherPiglet · 11/07/2020 17:16

simonjt 😂😂😂😂😂

Mascotte · 11/07/2020 17:20

Does it look into/towards her house?

My ex neighbour did similar and I felt my privacy very much invaded. I had to buy window coverings and stuff.

I think it's also the nice thing to do to tell your neighbour about stuff like this which might have avoided the issue.

ZombieLizzieBennet · 11/07/2020 17:28

How might it have avoided the issue when she's unhappy about being able to see it?

Wotsitsarecheesy · 11/07/2020 17:34

I had the same, Mascotte. In my last house there was a wooded area at the bottom of the gardens. Not overlooked from that side at all. The back of our house was a set of bifold doors across the whole width. No blinds or anything. Then next door built a cabin at the bottom of their garden facing towards the houses. They would be in there in an evening, lookig straight into our garden room where we spent most evenings. It did feel very invasive having them stare straight in where before there were just trees. We moved house to get away from them as they were awful neighbours generally.

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