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Built a cabin and neighbour not happy.

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ReginaaPhalange · 09/07/2020 16:39

This week, we built a cabin in our back garden and we have complied 100% with guidance which states the highest point must not exceed 2.5m in height. Our cabin is 2.3m at its highest point. We have not put it up against the fence, we have left a good amount of room to fit an adult down the back and around the sides for painting, maintenance and pick up any weeds etc.

On Tuesday, my DH was doing the roof and his bottle of water went into the neighbours garden. This neighbour lives at the back of us, so I went round and politely advised her of what had happened and asked if I could go into her garden and collect the bottle of water and any off cuts that may have come away too. She allowed me to do this and there was literally the water and one small piece of wood, so I took that away and said to my DH who was still on the roof to be careful and he even shouted over to the neighbour to apologise.

When I went to leave, she came out her back door (we were keeping 2m apart) and started saying she's not happy about the cabin, said it's in her view when she looks out of her kitchen window and told me she had spoken to her children (they're away from home with kids etc so probably similar ages with me (30's) )and her kids were apparently not happy either Incase it blocks out the sun. I can confirm when I went round, this was not the case, the sun was beating down and her garden was not obstructed.

Further more, the neighbour said she was not happy that we had not told her of our plans and that we should have told her. I did tell my husband prior to delivery of the cabin that we should maybe tell her, but he said as it was within the guidance of height etc, it did not require planning permission and he didn't need to advise her. In hindsight I wish I maybe did give her a heads up.

Yesterday when DH was tidying up the edging of the room, he overheard the neighbour moaning on the phone saying it's such an eye sore, how it was just there when she came home and how disappointed it is. Now, I fully understand if she had beautiful views from her kitchen window, but she doesn't. Her window looks out to her back garden, fence then the back of our house.

Today, her friend walked around to our house, stood at the end of my driveway, looked into the garden, shook her head and walked away. I didn't say anything as I had just come out the shower and still had my towel around me (I was looking out for the yodel courier when I noticed it).

Further more, 3 years ago, when me and DH were at work, she had her BIL hack away the base of our fence so she would double panel the fence. The fence is owned by us and on our boundary and she acknowledged that, but she never told us she was going to do it. We just found out when we came home from work to find half the base of our fence gone!! We never kicked off, we actually went to her door to ask her if we could panel OUR fence up the back. She was fine and so were we. We have never spoken to her since as you can't see her in the garden as fence is double panelled, we live on different streets so we both have different entrance/ exit routes and our paths have never crossed so it's not a case of avoiding her.

Earlier when I was upstairs I noticed her at the fence (I was talking out to husband asking what he wanted for lunch). She was snooping around and I can only think she was maybe looking for off cuts which fell into her garden, but DH said there's definitely nothing there as he peeked over and checked.

I'm not sure if I should say something to her or just leave it and just hope she leaves it alone, but our neighbours next door who we get on brilliantly with have said they have had problems with her snooping before, peeking over the fence and asking when they had a baby as she saw baby clothes on the line (they have never spoken to her before)

3 years ago btw, she told us her name was (let's say) Barbara (not her real name), but when I was speaking to her on Tuesday, I said "it's Barbara isn't it?" And she said "no, it's Mavis(changed)." I found that a bit off too.... even DH had said to me no, she definitely told us her name was Barbara(charged).

Odd... anyway, I digress. Should I leave it or approach her about it, maybe give her flowers as an apology for not telling her about the cabin?

Cabin will be used as a wee gym for me (treadmill and weights) and she knows this. She did say "thank god it's not a hot tub"

OP posts:
Fruitsaladjelly · 09/07/2020 18:35

Those saying it doesn’t need planning permission ... we don’t know what planning authority the op is under, if like us she lives in a national park Then she would, you can’t put up a shed let alone a cabin without it going through planning.

ReginaaPhalange · 09/07/2020 18:37

[quote Notfeelinggreattoday]@Covidiot i thought the same that it had to be so far from boundary as our neighbour put uo a large shed a few imches from our fence and someone told me we could object , it didn't bother is bit now our neighbours are being twats so ive been tempted to look in to it [/quote]
Taken from the Scottish government website (I live in Scotland) and we comply with all this.

If you own a home, you may want to add a shed, garage, greenhouse or other building. These are known as 'ancillary buildings'.
Permitted development
Before you do this you should first check if you need to apply for planning permission.
Most ancillary buildings do not need a planning permission application, because most meet a set of rules called 'permitted development'.
The permitted development rules for an ancillary building are:
• it's located at the back of the house
• it's not used as a separate home to live in
• it, and any other development, does not take up half or more of the 'curtilage' – this means half or more of the grounds behind your home
• it's not higher than 4 metres at the highest point
• any part that's a metre or less from the boundary is no higher than 2.5 metres
• the eaves (the part where the wall meets the roof) is no higher than 3 metres
• if the land is in a conservation area or in the grounds of a listed building, the ancillary building has a footprint of less than 4 square metres

Built a cabin and neighbour not happy.
OP posts:
ArgumentativeAardvaark · 09/07/2020 18:42

There you go- that has specific rules about the parts that are “a metre or less from the boundary” so it follows that you must be allowed structures which are positioned a metre or less from the boundary.

ArgumentativeAardvaark · 09/07/2020 18:44

The Humpin’ Hoose

Love it Grin

Greenlamp45 · 09/07/2020 18:47

I’ve got a Barbara/Mavis neighbour too. Believe me, being nice will get you nowhere, they just see it as a weakness.

I wouldn’t spit on her if she was on fire.

RedToothBrush · 09/07/2020 18:47

You need WINDCHIMES AND GNOMES ON THE ROOF OF THE CABIN.

ScrapThatThen · 09/07/2020 18:49

Just imagine in your head that she is a friendly benign unobtrusive neighbour. Ignore any peeping, respond cheerfully but assertively to any moans. Her friends and family will gradually understand that it is your garden and get fed up of the issue and stop feeding her anxiety. ' We have followed the appropriate guidance, do check online if you need any clarification. Are you keeping well, isn't it a lovely day.'

ilovemyrednosedaymug · 09/07/2020 18:51

I'd get a hot tub too now, seeing as she said thank god it wasn't one Grin

whistler2020 · 09/07/2020 18:51

We had similar with our neighbours! Our 4ft fence blew down in the wind, they made it quite clear it was our responsibility to sort as it was our boundary. When we eventually had our new fence built they had some snide remarks as it's just over 5ft (well within the 6ft limit). I considered taking around some flowers but decided against it in the end as I felt it was an admission of guilt and that we were in the wrong which was definitely not the case! It took a couple months for them to get used to it but I wasn't going to chop it down to make them happy so I just don't engage with them now!

Foxinsocks1 · 09/07/2020 18:52

We put one up at the back of our garden, your post has only just made me realise it might block the neighbours lovely view of our house. How weird! Enjoy your cabin.

Veganforlife · 09/07/2020 18:59

Give me a cabin in a neighbouring garden rather than a bloody trampoline any day ..

Squeak fucking squeak all day long

maddening · 09/07/2020 19:09

It. Is no. Different to putting up a garden shed, she ibr

Kaydogsdinner · 09/07/2020 19:11

My mum is a complete Barbara-Mavis, always moaning about what's going on in her street when it has absolutely NO bearing on her life whatsoever. She even moans about cars driving or parking down her road that 'don't even live on this street'? HmmNow that's batshit. She'd be the same if any neighbour surrounding her built a cabin. Hates change, hates other people having a good time...if a neighbour DARES to have any kind of gathering or party she has a right old moan, but really it's because she wants to be invited...and really it's because she's got very little else to do and is probably a bit jealous of others getting on and doing stuff. Do not give it another thought OP, enjoy your new cabin!!! Or invite her over to the cabin, get her involved a bit then maybe she'll shut up Grin

ChangeOfNameNeeded07 · 09/07/2020 19:19

Our neighbour was not very happy when we built our garden room. It, too, adhered to all building regulations, so she had no case, but still managed to moan that it obstructed her light- our gardens are South-facing and we are on the left to her! We just listened to her politely and ignored. She is one of those people, who has had argument with all neighbours on our road, so better just ignore.

Anotherdayanother2 · 09/07/2020 19:49

I have exactly the same sort of neighbour. I even needed to consult a solicitor when she said my extension would block her view (it doesn't) but actually there is no right to a view in law anyway. Solicitor said she could moan and complain all she wanted but wouldn't get anywhere. She even tried to demand that I plant trees at the back of my garden so she could have a better view!

StoneofDestiny · 09/07/2020 19:56

Ignore her and enjoy your cabin.

UntamedWisteria · 09/07/2020 20:04

It wasn't very neighbourly of you not to let her know first.

But, what's done is done, so just ignore.

Jeeperscreepers69 · 09/07/2020 20:07

@ReginaaPhalange photos of offending cabin????? Is this a garden shed?

ReginaaPhalange · 09/07/2020 20:08

[quote Jeeperscreepers69]@ReginaaPhalange photos of offending cabin????? Is this a garden shed?[/quote]
I don't think it fair to post pictures as it may make me identifiable and also my neighbour?

OP posts:
ScribblingMilly · 09/07/2020 20:11

We had this from our neighbour & he bitched about it to other people in the street too. We just smiled and said bland things about 'each to their own' because it was absolutely none of his business but we didn't want to fall out.

expat101 · 09/07/2020 20:16

I’m in the “shoe on the other foot” brigade. Our neighbour has just moved on, with council approval, another full size house while being allowed to keep un-consented structures and a smaller house he intends to rent out. Our laws allow for a minor dwelling for a dependent family member, but he has done it to try and increase re-sale value.

In the ideal world, council should have made him pull down the various piles of crap he has erected before the newer house was brought on. Council “should” have made him tidy up the selection he is on, as well as back fill the stagnant pond he also created some years back...

Finally, this neighbour has complained about activities of other neighbours. We and our contractors have been photo graphed on several occasions by both husband and wife on our property, undertaking legal activities. He has complained about over grown pines on our property and once we removed them, complained about the dust and lack of privacy too.

So for me, yes I can understand some circumstances where a neighbour erecting a legal structure grates the nerves. Hopefully none of the above applies in your case OP but it’s food for thought too.

Bunnymumy · 09/07/2020 20:16

Avoid her like the plague. She sounds like a narcissist winding up for a vendetta. Any biceities like 'appology flowers' will firstly, be taken as an admission if sone sort of guilt and simply say to her you are a soft touch and that will make her want to sink her fangs in further.

expat101 · 09/07/2020 20:17

^ forgot to say he has since announced they are not selling either...

blubellsarebells · 09/07/2020 20:17

You enjoy your cabin in your garden and your neighbour can be unhappy in hers.
Your cabin is none of her business and her feelings are none of yours..
Forget it and ignore her.

Bunnymumy · 09/07/2020 20:17

*nicities
*secondly

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