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State school teachers moonlighting as private tutors during their 'working' hours

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UmbrellaHat · 05/07/2020 13:21

Should be sacked
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/state-school-teachers-moonlighting-private-22303681

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Anniemabel · 05/07/2020 16:51

Personally I don’t see the problem with it at all. If a teacher is not in school because the school is closed to most pupils and they are not delivering online live lessons then surely it’s up to them when they work their contracted hours - which presumably only involves prepping stuff for their pupils to get on with independently at home and maybe giving a bit of feedback.

I’m not a teacher but I work 9-5 in an office normally, mostly alone rather than as part of a team. During lockdown I’ve been getting all my work done and more across the week. Where I don’t need any input from others I’m doing it as and when suits me. So if I have time on a Sunday I might work then so as to have more time for my kids on Monday.

If a teacher gets all their class prep done for Monday and Tuesday on Saturday and Sunday then surely they are free to do private tutoring via zoom on Monday and Tuesday.

spanieleyes · 05/07/2020 16:53

Apparently they should be out" volunteering in the community " instead!

Diverseduvet · 05/07/2020 16:57

Well done to any teacher who can manage the work load and still have time to tutor. I say this as a former teacher. I never understood why people are so nasty about teachers, who spend more time with children then their families during a average week.

midsomermurderess · 05/07/2020 17:19

I think people move between here and the Mail to pursue their rabid loathing of teachers. Christ, it's wearisome.

back2good · 05/07/2020 17:25

Lots of teachers and teaching assistants also do tutoring on the side, always have done. As long as their tutoring isn't taking place during their contracted school hours, it shouldn't be an issue.

ilovesooty · 05/07/2020 17:29

Perhaps @hashtagbollocks will be sufficiently gracious to acknowledge her comprehension failure when she returns.

hashtagbollocks · 05/07/2020 17:49

perhaps hashtag is a product of shit teachers?

DomDoesWotHeWants · 05/07/2020 18:09

Certainly looks that way.

CallmeAngelina · 05/07/2020 18:10

@hashtagbollocks

fancy which union is that and did they say why they're discouraging teaching?
Reading comprehension, eh?! Why don't those lazy fucking teachers teach it these days? Wink
CallmeAngelina · 05/07/2020 18:25

@hashtagbollocks

fancy which union is that and did they say why they're discouraging teaching?
Reading comprehension, eh?! Why don't those lazy fucking teachers teach it these days? Wink
CallmeAngelina · 05/07/2020 18:25

Oops, so good MN posted it twice!

Haenow · 05/07/2020 18:33

@piperatthegates

Do people also have a problem with firefighters, many of whom have second and even third jobs completely unconnected with firefighting?
If they were doing a second job during the hours they were paid and contracted to do their job, then yes...!
ilovesooty · 05/07/2020 18:33

@hashtagbollocks

perhaps hashtag is a product of shit teachers?
Was obviously never taught to acknowledge errors gracefully.
Haenow · 05/07/2020 18:34

@back2good

Lots of teachers and teaching assistants also do tutoring on the side, always have done. As long as their tutoring isn't taking place during their contracted school hours, it shouldn't be an issue.
Of course, same with many jobs. There are always going to be a few bad apples in the bunch who are working on a 2nd job when they should be doing their main/other job.
Buttercup77 · 05/07/2020 18:37

I have dozens of friends who are teachers and all of them offer private tuition services in the evenings and at weekends. Millions of people in the country in all sorts of professions work a second job or sell a skill or service or product to make more money. Private tuition is legal, fairly common and an excellent way for a teacher to supplement their main income. Supply and demand. They have a skill and people want to pay them for it. As long as it’s outside contracted hours set by the school it’s fine.

There are tens of thousands of teachers offering private tuition services on all the major databases. I’ve seen the tuition databases advertised in all of the major newspapers, in magazines and on the Dept for Education website, talked about on the BBC etc... In fact there’s a worry that as it’s so lucrative and the supply is so huge, many teachers could actually retire from their main job and become a private tutor instead. It’s a great way for parents who might not be able to afford private school fees to pay a fraction of that cost to have some one-on-one teaching especially in an area their child struggles with and teachers get paid an hourly wage closer to what they deserve.

As per usual, the teacher-bashing DM found one or two teachers who tried to do it during the work day and got the usual suspects foaming at the mouth over nothing. And part-time teachers and supply teachers are allowed to do this anyway. As long as it’s outside of work hours, why are people so concerned with what teachers do outside the hours they are paid for?!

Haenow · 05/07/2020 18:37

@StaffAssociationRepresentative

What about nurses and doctors who do agency work?
@StaffAssociationRepresentative

If I was left waiting for an appointment ^purely% because a nurse or dr was doing his/her work for a completely separate job whilst employed at another, then yes, I’d be a tad miffed! Wouldn’t you?

FancyAnOlive · 05/07/2020 18:47

hashtagbollocks - I said my union had not discouraged me, not that they had.

dreamingofsun - I tutor outside my normal working hours. As usual.

ilovesooty · 05/07/2020 19:01

@FancyAnOlive

hashtagbollocks - I said my union had not discouraged me, not that they had.

dreamingofsun - I tutor outside my normal working hours. As usual.

Exactly @FancyanOlive, but @hashtagbollocks doesn't seem to have "I'm sorry, I made a mistake" in her vocabulary.
Cattiwampus · 05/07/2020 19:45

@flumposie

I dont know how they'd have the time. I certainly don't.
The teachers I know who tutor don’t have children or demanding partners.
Flatwhite32 · 05/07/2020 20:36

Pointless thread. @UmbrellaHat hates teachers, as shown by previous threads. We are clearly all morons according to the Mirror (and the OP).

Flatwhite32 · 05/07/2020 20:36

Pointless thread. @UmbrellaHat hates teachers, as shown by previous threads. We are clearly all morons according to the Mirror (and the OP).

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 05/07/2020 21:04

@Haenow maybe not. But would you want to be treated by a medic who was also picking up shifts via an agency? Tiredness can lead to mistakes etc

Haenow · 05/07/2020 21:11

@StaffAssociationRepresentative

I get your point, I do. All professionals should adhere to their various codes of ethics and practice and not work hours that puts patients at risk. I don’t get the impression it happens that much in medicine/nursing, in the same way I don’t think there are many teachers who’ve been moonlighting during working hours throughout Covid19. There are always a few bad apples. I can condone it without making assumptions that all teachers or nurses are like that.

Haenow · 05/07/2020 21:11

^ can’t condone!

Takingontheworld · 05/07/2020 21:16

@MitziK

Any particular reason why the Daily Mail sting just happened to approach teachers with non-English names? Or that the £95/h on the headline actually translated into £35 in the feature? Or that it happened to be announced by political organisations?

It's as though somebody in politics approached them with an exact brief.

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