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In September will the kids who have done homelearning have to sit bored at school while works repeated for the ones that haven't. Or will they start there new' year ' work as normal. Either way it's

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947EliseChalotte · 05/07/2020 11:31

It's not fair either way. The bright kids who have done their homelearning will be held back while it's repeated for the ones which were unable too .....or if it's a new year start with work as normal the ones who didn't do homelearning will have missed work and won't understand. So either is unfair to either groups. So what are the plans for education for September? Repeating work missed from march or new work from sept? Which group will be disavantsged the ones who have done work or haven't ?

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Oopsiedaisyy · 05/07/2020 20:26

My year 1 did the whole year of ks1 maths and English curriculum over lockdown, but I don't really mind what he does in class.

UserErrorMessage · 05/07/2020 20:31

@Sittingontheveranda

UserErrorMessage

Fair point. My kids are still in primary school.

Enjoy the moment. Teenagers are a whole new world to embrace where you just have to hold on by the seat of your pants! They'll complain about teachers not helping them for a couple of weeks and when you step in to sort it out - you'll be the one taking the roasting because they're embarrassed and they don't want to get the teacher in trouble! They are really quite complicated. But loads of fun too...they just keep getting better - but less controllable!
CallmeAngelina · 05/07/2020 20:31

@formerbabe

I know one woman who has nearly had a nervous breakdown trying to get her son to do his school work - it didn't work but it did damage their relationship considerably

This is what I mean. I don't want to nag and punish and damage my dcs mental health. These are not normal times

OK, fine, but if that's the case, can you please stop blaming teachers for it?
FrippEnos · 05/07/2020 20:33

UserErrorMessage

Including quite a few of the teachers!

Quite probably.

But whatever has been set someone will always find fault with it.

TeaAndBrie · 05/07/2020 20:37

@formerbabe
Your entitlement complex is astounding.
You clearly have become very bitter about the situation. I don't think you even really know what solution you think would appease you, you just like to play at being hard done by.
You are a SAHP so you have the time to do lovely things with your children. What you chose to do is completely your choice but please do not verify those decisions by criticising the people that have been keeping this country going.
It is not a competition or a contest or who has it the hardest.

UserErrorMessage · 05/07/2020 20:45

@FrippEnos

UserErrorMessage

Including quite a few of the teachers!

Quite probably.

But whatever has been set someone will always find fault with it.

You just hope the overall majority are not finding fault.
formerbabe · 05/07/2020 20:54

please do not verify those decisions by criticising the people that have been keeping this country going

I'm only criticising the ones who are doing so whilst the other parent is at home either as a sahp or a furloughed worker. They don't need school for childcare so why are their kids there and mine aren't?

As for me being entitled? If wanting your child to be able to attend school is entitled then yes, absolutely I am.

Oh and all I wanted was my dc to get a chance to be at school at least once before the summer holidays. Hardly a big ask.

RedRum27 · 05/07/2020 20:56

@Lemons1571

No, never the language used from our headteacher, school or governing body or the government...course I may of missed this but have kept up with the news I promise you but would have been crazy to 100% suspend the curriculum knowing my year 10s (who I am also head of) and my Year 12s have got exams next year.

We have of course adjusted the lessons to make them as accessible as possible from home and I guess are behind a little bit but no where near as behind had we just stopped teaching new content.

Fingers crossed it is onwards and upwards from here on in...

Hercwasonaroll · 05/07/2020 21:00

User I'd take anything the students say with a pinch of salt unless you know from a teacher. We've had parents phone and complain about their kids not getting work done and the students haven't even logged in to check. We've also phoned parents/students to chase lack of work particularly in y12. The provision for most of y12 is out there, students not engaging is a different matter.

TeaAndBrie · 05/07/2020 21:02

@formerbabe
I don't know of any schools locally that accepted any KW children if there was another non Keyworker parent at home that could be at home with them.
I know some schools may be different. My daughters school requested proof from both parents before a place would be offered.
I do understand your issue but you're focussing your frustrations at the wrong people and assuming that it is happening everywhere. This simply isn't the case.
If you are that concerned for your DD and needing contact time at school you need to be having this crusade with them.

daisymay133 · 05/07/2020 21:05

But key worker kids aren’t getting educated in school? It’s childcare - most are making visors. No lessons at apl

They just do the homework that the year get in school time so no advantage learning wise

Splattherat · 05/07/2020 21:09

@daisymay133 what year group fo you teach please?

I have tried to warm DD year 10 that this may happen. She is doing some work but goodness knows how much. She hates me/us trying to check up on what she has done and is so grumpy, argumentative and weepy things are really strained between us.

TeaAndBrie · 05/07/2020 21:14

@daisymay133
They just do the homework that the year get in school time so no advantage learning wise

I guess the advantage could be seen that if they are in school they are encouraged to do the work set as they are in the class environment.
If, for whatever reason, this isn't the same in a child's home then they have the same opportunity but not the same discipline afforded to them by their parents to complete the work.

daisymay133 · 05/07/2020 21:14

I teach sixth form age so not relevant in that sense but my own dd is year 9 currently

Her school don’t set after this year so for me personally I’m just trying to keep her in her sets long enough for start of year 10 for her GCSEs

I think some revision is obviously important as they simply won’t have time to catch up

But if it’s a battle then there’s no point - mental health and well being is important too 😊

Maybe she could do some catch up over summer?

To be fair dd only gets 8 pieces of work (based on 10 subjects - eng and science obv double) so it’s only 1.5-2 hours a day max

Is she mixing with friends? I found dd loved lockdown - less pressure for her than school but now she’s happier seeing friends 3-4 time a week.

HateIsNotGood · 05/07/2020 21:16

It isn't what other people do, it's what you do - is how I describe 'life' to myself and ds.

What's all this chosen business and other nonsense? My experience is from ds being properly banned from age 6 and both of us being very 'unchosen' for many years. And yet, many years later, the naysayers are gagging on their own words.

I kept DS interested in learning, for learnings sake. The geography lesson on the Beach, where the stone and pebble mounds became coontinents, keep looking around us for science, knights in armour games for history, translated to chess, which became maths. Reading for English.

There comes a point where, if we can and are able, if a state or private education isn't being provided, there's other things we can do as parents to keep our children 'educated'.

UserErrorMessage · 05/07/2020 21:20

@Hercwasonaroll

User I'd take anything the students say with a pinch of salt unless you know from a teacher. We've had parents phone and complain about their kids not getting work done and the students haven't even logged in to check. We've also phoned parents/students to chase lack of work particularly in y12. The provision for most of y12 is out there, students not engaging is a different matter.
No phone calls here, and I trust my kids - you might not trust my kids or any kids you work with, including your own but I don't think my kids are liars - yes really! I'm more inclined to not trust teachers. I've seen the communications, I've seen the work set - one email a week, it's poor. One of my dd's friends has not opened an email from school - decided to leave a month into lockdown. Out of his six teachers only one noticed, a month later - this was a kid with MH problems who has a difficult relationship with his mother, he was seeing a counsellor - and the school were aware. He has yet to receive any communications from the rest - that imo is shit!
whattodo2019 · 05/07/2020 21:23

This is where the private schools have been amazing. My kids have had a full day of live lessons I can sport, art, music etc. They even have end of term exams.
I work full time but have still managed to support my children. I don't understand why some parents have let their children do no work... BBC bitesize provision has been incredible from what I've seen.

Parker231 · 05/07/2020 21:26

@whattodo2019 - how old are your DC’s and how many hours a day are you working where you can’t be interrupted?

bettsbattenburg · 05/07/2020 21:28

@whattodo2019

This is where the private schools have been amazing. My kids have had a full day of live lessons I can sport, art, music etc. They even have end of term exams. I work full time but have still managed to support my children. I don't understand why some parents have let their children do no work... BBC bitesize provision has been incredible from what I've seen.
The same has happened at some state schools, minus the end of term exams though.
Hercwasonaroll · 05/07/2020 21:30

In fairness user that school does sound spectacularly bad. Have you been in touch with them at all? I know it's a difficult stage to be overly involved.

AllTheUserNamesAreTaken · 05/07/2020 21:33

Like a PP, my son normally loves learning, loves school and even does his homework happily.
He has now reached the stage where he’s been crying because it’s no fun doing work on his own. He misses company and learning with his peers. I will not force him and upset him further when he’s clearly struggling to cope.
He’s done very little this last couple of weeks and will be doing very little this next three weeks.

I have no idea how much he has done compares to other children in his class. I can’t worry about that, I need to look after his mental health. So if that means just doing reading (which he loves thankfully) and timestables then so be it

zoemum2006 · 05/07/2020 22:00

We had a letter from the head teacher who explained how it will be in my daughter's primary;

Years 4/5/6 will have small, targeted, catch-up sessions with an additional teacher who is being hired with the extra government money.

Years 2 and 3 will become mixed. So those who've done home learning will be together and those who haven't will be together (other factors will be considered too).

Year 1 will continue with the reception, play based curriculum for the first term.

So hopefully no one with be bored and support will be targeted.

Hercwasonaroll · 05/07/2020 22:24

@zoemum2006

I wouldn't be happy with the year 2/3 plan. What an over reaction from the head with mixing classes. The teachers should be skilled enough to 'catch' the students up. Although I'd question what we are even catching them up to? Who are we comparing against?

The 4/5/6 tutor isn't a bad idea but be careful of who it is. A trained intervention tutor is fine. A random graduate on the government scheme is not fine.

The year 1 plan sounds sensible.

Sittingontheveranda · 05/07/2020 22:42

I wouldn't be happy with the year 2/3 plan

Can I ask why?

Hercwasonaroll · 05/07/2020 22:50
  1. The children will be in different groups to their 'normal' ones. Why? They need existing relationships and friendships more than ever.
  1. What message is it sending the students that should be in y3 to be in y2? They will know which class is which even if you don't tell them.
  1. Just because they haven't done the prescribed home learning doesn't mean they will be 'behind'. How are you even measuring them as being 'behind'?
  1. If they are mixed and those who 'have done home learning' do different work, will they not just end up even further 'ahead'?