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To think this may be a "squeaky bum" moment for Prince Andrew?

121 replies

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/07/2020 14:41

www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ghislaine-maxwell-arrested-jeffrey-epstein-aide/2495762/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/07/2020 16:56

I'm not saying there won't have been deals but they didn't seem to do Epstein much good and he possibly had as much ammunition to do deals as Maxwell

Remember, though, that Epstein hadn't gone on trial this time - he was arrested in July 2019 and dead barely more than a month later, thus derailing the prosecution

It's true that he was also charged 12 years ago, but to quote the NY Times: "He avoided federal criminal charges in 2008 after prosecutors brokered a widely criticized deal that allowed him to plead guilty to state charges of solicitation of prostitution from a minor and serve 13 months in jail. Even while in custody, Mr. Epstein was able to leave the jail for 12 hours a day, six days a week, to work at his office in Florida"

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KaTetof19 · 02/07/2020 17:09

What, some form of royal protection in return for keeping her mouth shut about him?

Honestly I wouldn't put anything past these people (the wealthy elite). They've been "friends" for years, if she wants to survive prison she really needs Andrew to have a vested belief that she won't reveal any/all his dirty secrets. I still think it's more likely she "catches covid" or "has an accident" though. If that happens the FBI should pursue the prison service for obstruction of justice!

Laiste · 02/07/2020 17:27

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LakieLady · 02/07/2020 17:32

We could always do a swap - Prince Andrew for Anna Sacoolas (sp)

Perhaps they could be persuaded to keep him. Ideally for ever.

billy1966 · 02/07/2020 17:45

Andrew is absolute slime.

I'd imagine Maxwell has well prepared for this eventuality with a safety deposit box somewhere should anything happen to her.

I hope she's sleeping with one eye open tonight.

When you think of the hard time Fergie, Diana and Charles got for whatever indiscretions they got up to and all the time Andrew was allegedly chasing after the youngest of girls.

He's the absolute dregs.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 02/07/2020 17:54

I hope so OP...they PA and GM have a lot to answer...will they? probably not but the FBI have been brilliant today.

Tellmetruth4 · 02/07/2020 18:38

Personally I don’t believe her suicide next month was an accident.

UmbrellaHat · 02/07/2020 18:42

Personally I don’t believe her suicide next month was an accident.
GrinGrinGrin

ComDummings · 02/07/2020 18:42

I wonder when she will complete suicide? Are we thinking soon or just before the trial? She has a LOT of dirt on influential people...

jackdaw141 · 02/07/2020 18:49

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 02/07/2020 18:57

As long as they don’t transport her anywhere by boat.

JacobReesMogadishu · 02/07/2020 19:00

She’ll be dead within a month.

toothfairy73 · 02/07/2020 19:07

@Cherrybakewellard

I would imagine Prince Andrew is choking on his dough balls as we speak...
😂😂😂
Tellmetruth4 · 02/07/2020 19:09

They’ll claim she had Coronavirus.

toothfairy73 · 02/07/2020 19:09

@MitziK

Newsflash: Prince Andrew has announced that since his Naval service, his arsehole no longer tightens and as such, his bum is incapable of squeaking.
Genius
ssd · 02/07/2020 19:11

Andy will be feeding the Queen multi vitamins to keep her alive, she's the one keeping him safe and our the Americans clutches... If she died that would be it for him.

toothfairy73 · 02/07/2020 19:12

@Tellmetruth4

Personally I don’t believe her suicide next month was an accident.
I really hope not, there are too many questions that need answering
grafft · 02/07/2020 19:16

I don't think she will be dead. I'm sure she could have escaped if she wanted too.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 02/07/2020 19:17

There will be a trial & GM will talk & then she will 'mysteriously die' i.e. go into witness protection.
This whole thing is going to be blown wide open & about time.

Tellmetruth4 · 02/07/2020 19:20

Escape where? The only countries who wouldn’t send her straight back to America are probably Iran, North Korea and Syria. Switzerland probably only has room for one escaped pedo at a time (Polanski)

pigsDOfly · 02/07/2020 19:35

Tbh if she isn't disappeared and a full trial goes to its conclusion and she goes to prison I wouldn't be at all surprised if she actually were to commit suicide. Can't imagine her life in prison would be at all pleasant.

SkylinesTurnstiles · 02/07/2020 19:36

Oh yes!!
I’m glad that evil bitch is (hopefully) going down!

Viviennemary · 02/07/2020 19:39

I bet she won t get anywhere near a court. She'll have a stroke or heart attack.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 02/07/2020 19:44

I can't help laughing at the PP: 'I don't believe her suicide next month was an accident!' I also doubt Epstein's powerful contacts even care that few people believe his death was suicide. Quite the opposite, especially since someone in high authority has made very sure it can't be proved.

The timing of the closing-in of this net is interesting. Steve Bing was allegedly friendly with Epstein too. Now he's safely beyond the reach of any FBI inquisition. Andrew Windsor is nicely protected by the British establishment, but if things do turn awkward what's the betting he'll do a moonlight flit to his friends in the middle east?

Maxwell must have known her cards were marked, which is why she's been so well-hidden all this time. I doubt anyone will be particularly surprised when her father's tragic history repeats itself, which it likely will in 3, 2, 1 ...

ARoseInHarlem · 02/07/2020 20:08

The acting DA for Southern district of NY, Audrey Strauss, authoriz
sed and is bringing these charges against Maxwell.

Last week, Trump's Attorney General (Bill Barr) forced the then DA for the Southern District of NY (Geoffrey Berman) to resign his post. Berman had been pursuing investigations into Trump's affairs with Turkey, overseeing an investigation in Giuliani (Trump's personal attorney and one of his political appointees), and also the ongoing effort to get Trump's tax returns disclosed. Trump's aim was and is to have one of his cronies (ex-head of the SEC) appointed instead. Berman resisted being forced to resign (whether or not he was obliged to go on Bill Barr's instructions was a grey area legally, so he fought it). He only agreed to go, finally, when he found out Strauss was going to take his place, at least temporarily.

So, Berman left safe in the knowledge Strauss was going to take over. Under a week later, and well before Trump's permanent replacement for the role could be appointed, Strauss has Maxwell arrested and charged on a 16-page charge sheet.

Berman clearly had the charges and necessary evidence to back them up ready and waiting last week when he was forced to resign. You can't put this stuff together, and locate the woman, in under 5 working days. Strauss just pressed the button.

This thing stinks. Did Trump want to get rid of Berman because of the other investigations (Giuliani, his tax returns, Turkish connections)? Or was Trump trying to sabotage the arrest and charging of Maxwell? If so, on whose behest? To save Maxwell (who has knowledge and information but not that much money at her disposal, relative to Epstein - the woman is history already)? To save Andrew? If Andrew, at whose request was his involvement trying to be quashed?

I have 0% confidence anything will ever come of this. Those poor, poor girls.