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to ask advice on creepy flatmate?

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GettingAntsy · 30/06/2020 18:32

I have been living with a flatmate since September. We didn’t know each other beforehand, we met through a flatshare website. Generally it’s worked well - we get along and have a similar lifestyle.

The problem is her view of our relationship is VERY different to mine. In my opinion we are flatmates who get along. In her opinion we are best friends forever. She can be INCREDIBLY clingy. Before lockdown started, I thought I was going to have to move away for work for several months. I told her I would sublet my room, but reassured her I would let her vet the new occupant and would only sublet to someone she was comfortable with. Then a couple of days later I learnt I didn’t have to move away for work after all. When I told her, she was so relieved and said that she had cried for hours, literally hours, when she thought I’d be moving away. Her boyfriend confirmed that, he said he’s never seen her so upset.

This has been getting worse recently. A few days ago I mentioned another girl I previously lived with, and this prompted an hour-long discussion of “Do you like her more than me? Is she more fun than me? Is she a better cook than me?” She asked me to list everyone I’ve lived with since I left home aged 18 and tell her whether I liked them more than her. This was all done in a jokey tone...but still, she was asking about it for an hour.

She frequently makes comments about how she wants to live with me forever, or marry me off to one of her friends so I stay in her life forever. She frequently asks “Do you really like me?” and “You won’t leave me, will you?” Again, in a jokey tone, but still.

At this point I should say I recognise that she probably has some emotional problems. A close friend of hers died suddenly a few years ago and I suspect that’s made her unable to stand the thought of any other relationship being severed. I do like her, I feel sorry for her, and I want to avoid upsetting her.

Nonetheless, as you can probably tell, this is REALLY creeping me out. We've known each other for less than 10 months! Ironically, if she stopped demanding constant reassurance of my affection, I would feel a lot more affectionate towards her!

So this is the problem: recently an old uni friend of mine has suggested we move in together (in the same city) in late Aug/early Sep, and I jumped at the chance. How on earth do I tell this girl that I am, indeed, “leaving” her? I’m worried she’s going to have a genuine meltdown and I’m going to have to deal with crying/passive aggression/even more clinginess. Should I tell her ASAP to give her some warning, or leave it till the last minute to delay the fallout? How do I break it to her as gently as possible? How do I “manage expectations” about how often we’re going to see each other after I move out?

OP posts:
Cramitmaam · 01/07/2020 07:26

Definitely don't leave it until the last minute. Despite her weird behaviour she still deserves to know ASAP that you will be moving.

She needs to get over it. I have made friends with almost every roommate I've ever had, but I have never behaved in this way. When either of us has made arrangements to move on there have been "awe, what a shame we won't be living together anymore" conversations but it has never resulted in crying or anything ridiculous like that. If she behaves in this way then it's her own issue, not yours.

Be nice, but not too nice.

BrightYellowDaffodil · 01/07/2020 07:43

I would tell her in advance, in he hope that (despite any initial upset) she would act like the grown up she clearly is.

However, I’d be prepared to leave immediately if necessary, even if it meant bunging my stuff in storage and staying elsewhere until the new place is ready. Have a backup plan of people who will help you move, a storage place scoped out and somewhere to stay. Sounds dramatic but having had a house-share fall through dramatically (landlord wanted my room back for himself and wasn’t prepared to give more than a few days notice, regardless of what my contract said) I’ve been there!

pictish · 01/07/2020 07:47

Follow the advice of those who say to approach it as you would any other flatmate in the same situation, not as though it’s a break up in which you are trying to soften the blow. There is no ‘blow’ - you’re moving on after a few months of flat share and that is normal, it so what happens.
You’re not responsible for her happiness.

rayoflightboy · 01/07/2020 08:01

Definitely don't leave it until the last minute. Despite her weird behaviour she still deserves to know ASAP that you will be moving.

No she doesn't.The op doesn't owe this needy whinging woman anything.

Move op and as quick as you can .

Roussette · 01/07/2020 08:01

She is just a flatmate and you have to remember that. Do not get into an emotional conversation that she will no doubt want to have when she hears you are leaving.

Be factual Of course, be kind, but do not tell her 'although I adore you...' like a PP said! Just be polite, but don't get into any of the histrionics. She has to understand that she has just been a transient person in your life, I do think you might have indulged her a bit too much! Unfortunately, I don't think you can carry on being friends, she has overstepped boundaries.

I would make sure you have the boyfriend's number before you tell her. Then you can contact him if necessary and say, can you get round here and sort out your girlfriend!

Marsalimay · 01/07/2020 08:31

There's a lot of shaming in your OP. There's an opportunity to treat this situation with compassion rather than drama.

When I was a teacher, I'd ask the kids why they bullied this classmate or that classmate and they'd say, "because they're weird" as if that was a perfectly self-explanatory reason. My answer would be, "So what? Don't slightly different people deserve the same respect?".

Smashtastic · 01/07/2020 08:37

Is this her boyfriend op?

to ask advice on creepy flatmate?
chocorabbit · 01/07/2020 09:16

OP, you would have got a lot better answers in relationships because she treats it like one. Basically from reading from many experienced posters people who behave like that do not change and you should try to minimise the havock she will wreak.

StoneCold316 · 01/07/2020 09:16

@Marsalimay

There's a lot of shaming in your OP. There's an opportunity to treat this situation with compassion rather than drama.

When I was a teacher, I'd ask the kids why they bullied this classmate or that classmate and they'd say, "because they're weird" as if that was a perfectly self-explanatory reason. My answer would be, "So what? Don't slightly different people deserve the same respect?".

Oh come off it, that’s nonsense. The op is asking for advice on the best way to let her roommate know she won’t be living there anymore. How is she shaming her?
GettingAntsy · 01/07/2020 09:20

Guys, please stop making jokes about her killing me, it's kind of freaking me out!!! Confused

Yeah, I will definitely have to tell her at least a month beforehand, because that's when I will need to give notice to the landlady and she will presumably start showing people around.

OP posts:
GettingAntsy · 01/07/2020 09:23

I really do not mean to "shame" her (and I don't really see how I did...). I do get on with her and feel compassion for her obvious abandonment issues. I am always polite and friendly to her, I certainly don't bully her.

But at the same time I don't want to pretend that I feel the same way about her that she does about me.

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YeahWhatevver · 01/07/2020 09:25

Don't tell her until you absolutely have to.

It's not inconceivable to see her "grief" over you leaving turning bitter and you'd have to suffer it for several months

You owe her nothing more.

pictish · 01/07/2020 09:34

You haven’t shamed her...you’ve only described events as they are. Take no notice of that poster.

I have attracted the attention of similarly intense friends a couple of times over the years. It’s nothing to do with me being that appealing but more to do with their low self esteem. I’m afraid I am quite poor at dealing with it...once that cloying ick factor sets in, it’s game over.

Stay matter of fact OP.

StatementKnickers · 01/07/2020 09:37

Agree with telling her in front of her boyfriend. Also think you should have a word with the landlady and let her know that your flatmate has had a hard time recently and you're worried she will react badly to your departure. If she completely freaks out about your announcement, you may need to leave before your notice period is up.

pictish · 01/07/2020 09:40

No...don’t tell the landlady anything. Just deal with it in the set way you would any other flatmate. Don’t get drawn in another step.

Tooshytoshine · 01/07/2020 09:53

We had an intense flatmate. We bought a house when we qualified in our mid twenties- my wife and I (both female) - and she moved into a spare room. Her focus was mainly in me where she acted in many of the ways you described above. I liked her and like you was kind, but it was too much and made me feel deceitful and uncomfortable...

In the end we asked her to leave as it was too emotionally intense, as she had high expectations of our relationship and I'm quite easy breezy. She exemplified the fine line between love and hate.

She was completely devastated then stopped speaking to me after we asked her to move out. We were kind in our approach and gave her a long notice period, but understandably she took it personally as it was, sadly.

My advice would be to go no contact. It's being cruel to be kind.

She got back in contact a few weeks after she moved out but I was blankly polite. It was a relief.

My G

GettingAntsy · 01/07/2020 10:05

@tooshytoshine This is exactly what I'm worried about...that once she gets over the fact that I'm moving out, there's going to be a whole other hurdle of trying to dial down the friendship. She absolutely strikes me as the sort of person who would send me a long emotional email a year from now saying "i'm so sad that you stopped talking to me and I really hope I didn't offend you in any way and I really want to be close friends with you again"

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WanderingFruitWonderer · 01/07/2020 10:10

Bless you OP. I really feel for you. I think your post is reasonable, balanced, and compassionate.
I'm a little concerned about some of the other posts on this thread. It sounds very likely that the OP's flatmate has serious vulnerabilities, and probably genuine mental health issues. That's not her fault in any way. Surely we've moved on from the days when those with mental health issues are to be derided and mocked?
I feel very much for the OP, but also for her flatmate. It's highly unlikely that said flatmate is in any way actually dangerous. Probably the opposite, and it simply isn't helpful to make unkind jokes to the contrary.
Back to you OP. Of course you're not in any way responsible for your flatmate. The sheer fact you're thinking about it all in depth, shows that you are a caring conscientious soul. Some people would just leave without a thought.
Without more information, it's hard to give more advice, but whatever you decide, I sincerely wish you well in your future home. I wish your flatmate peace, and good health and happiness too Flowers

Tooshytoshine · 01/07/2020 10:44

It's not your fault you don't feel the same connection with her. She isn't going to stop wanting this deeper friendship and it is inevitable her feelings will be hurt.

I would always rather people were straight forward with me, to a point. Be honest, say opportunity has arisen to live with a close friend, say she has been a great flatmate and be clear about your boundaries.

Then be polite and distant when she messages. I know it isn't entirely straight forward but you aren't in a relationship and don't have to break up with her...

Jux · 01/07/2020 11:07

Tell her when her bf's there, and don't make a big thing of it as if you actually were best mates but you're moving to the moon and will never see her again ever! Just, a kind of "oh btw, my BEST FRIEND of many years and I are moving in together so I'll be moving out on X date."

Does she do those creepy things when her bf's there, or does she behave a bit better when he's around?

(Hide your knickers Wink)

GettingAntsy · 01/07/2020 11:18

She does do these things when the boyfriend is here - in fact the "tell me all about your previous flatmate including her favourite animal and shoe size" conversation happened while he was there. He was teasing her for being over-emotional but didn't seem especially surprised by it.

OP posts:
GettingAntsy · 01/07/2020 11:20

It has honestly crossed my mind that she might fancy me. I don't THINK she does as she seems very settled with the boyfriend and as far as I know she's not into women. Not that it would be normal or acceptable to behave like this even if we had been a couple for all the time we've known each other!

OP posts:
PeachMoon · 01/07/2020 11:54

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PeachMoon · 01/07/2020 11:56

Posted on the wrong thread, sorry OP Blush have reported for deletion.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 01/07/2020 12:01

@PeachMoon

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Grin but maybe it WILL work for OP!

I don't think she has romantic feelings for you, even if it is an infatuation; having feelings for someone should NOT manifest itself in that way.

And same goes for 'shaming'. That's gaslighting of OP, if you want to use a term, that she shouldn't ask for advice on clearly unstable and manipulative behaviour. If this was her boyfriend telling her to never leave him and grilling her on her exes, I'd hope no one would tell her she's 'shaming' him Hmm