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The Great American Comeback Festival - Not (Trump Thread #102)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 24/06/2020 17:25

President Trump: "Two things have never changed: a wall and a wheel" Yuma, AZ. 23/06/20

Neither have ramps...

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BruceAndNosh · 27/07/2020 08:51

@TheNorthWestPawsage

IIRC Biden said he would pick his VP on (around?) August 1st. and that it would be a woman. So, who do people want/favour (given they may eventually get to be President...)?
When the Presidential candidate is 77, their choice of VP is crucial
BruceAndNosh · 27/07/2020 09:00

[quote TheNorthWestPawsage]Colour me surprised Hmm

Trump backs out of throwing first pitch at Yankees game
thehill.com/homenews/administration/509100-trump-backs-out-of-throwing-first-pitch-at-yankees-game[/quote]
As someone who abhors any sort of exercise (golf using a cart isn't exercise), Trump most probably tried pitching a few balls in the Rose Garden and found he was useless. Didn't want to be outpitched by Dr Fauci!

Roussette · 27/07/2020 09:07

I was amazed at how old Dr Fauci is, and how much younger he looks. 79!!

TheSparklyPussycat · 27/07/2020 12:03

When I see Dr. Fauci I am always reminded of Columbo.

AcrossthePond55 · 27/07/2020 19:31

Watching the ceremony as Rep Lewis' body is received at the Capitol to lie in state.

McConnell Yertle the turtle just gave a short speech. Wonder lightening didn't strike him.

AcrossthePond55 · 27/07/2020 19:32

lightning stupid autocorrect

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/07/2020 22:11

Step up Nikki H? Would he really go with (Shock! Horror!) a... woman?!

Conservative Bill Kristol Predicts Trump Will Drop Mike Pence as VP
www.politicususa.com/2020/07/27/conservative-bill-kristol-predicts-trump-will-drop-mike-pence-as-vp.html

Conservative Bill Kristol thinks Donald Trump will drop Mike Pence from the Republican ticket in an attempt to steal the Democratic National Convention’s thunder.

The veteran commentator linked the President’s decision not to throw out the first pitch at the Yankees game in New York next month.

Kristol saw an ulterior motive in this cancellation and was especially interested in the timing of the Yankees’ game and what it could mean for the news cycle.

“Aug. 15 is about when Trump will announce he’s replacing Pence with Haley or someone else,” Kristol tweeted.

“The timing would be intended to steal the spotlight from the Democratic convention which is the next week.”

The idea that Trump will drop Pence and replace him with someone more “exciting” for the Republican base has been floated before, including by prominent anti-Trump conservatives.

Though Kristol’s comments are at best informed speculation, Trump has had an uneasy relationship with Pence and his campaign is reportedly floundering amid collapsing poll numbers.

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PerkingFaintly · 27/07/2020 22:20

I seem to remember one of his biographers commenting that, his business office staff featured a high proportion of middle-aged women.

I think he may find women the right mix of non-threatening and decorative.

The problem with a bully who sees himself always in competition with other men, is that when he thinks they're getting a win over him, he feels threatened. And when he thinks he's getting a win over them, he can't respect them. But women... competing with them is not in the natural order for him. So they're fit to have around as faithful servants.

(Hence also his uncontrollable rage when women best him.)

lionheart · 27/07/2020 23:07

There was talk of Haley.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/07/2020 03:09

Even if he did, it's not going to 'steal the DNC's thunder'. The DNC is going to be a very low key 'virtual' event and the nominee is a foregone conclusion. The biggest news to come is the VP nominee and IIRC that's usually announced in advance anyway.

Scrotus will certainly think he's stealing thunder if he gets TV airtime by changing VPs during the DNC. But the Democratic Party really doesn't give a shit.

lionheart · 28/07/2020 03:56

edition.cnn.com/2020/07/27/politics/white-house-protest-church/index.html

'Washington (CNN)A National Guard official will tell Congress that the widely criticized decision to forcefully clear protesters from a park outside the White House last month was made even though demonstrators were acting peacefully, a view at odds with public comments by top Trump administration officials.

The prepared testimony of DC National Guard Major Adam D. DeMarco, who is set to appear before a hearing on Tuesday, challenges Attorney General William Barr's account of the dispersal. DeMarco, who described himself as one of the senior National Guard officials on the scene, ran as a Democrat for Maryland's 3rd Congressional District in 2018.'

BruceAndNosh · 28/07/2020 08:39

Trump cancelled the throwing the first pitch once he realised it was a Saturday and he'll be playing golf

BruceAndNosh · 28/07/2020 08:41

@PerkingFaintly

I seem to remember one of his biographers commenting that, his business office staff featured a high proportion of middle-aged women.

I think he may find women the right mix of non-threatening and decorative.

The problem with a bully who sees himself always in competition with other men, is that when he thinks they're getting a win over him, he feels threatened. And when he thinks he's getting a win over them, he can't respect them. But women... competing with them is not in the natural order for him. So they're fit to have around as faithful servants.

(Hence also his uncontrollable rage when women best him.)

That analysis makes perfect sense. He reacts really badly to challenges from Female journalists
Roussette · 28/07/2020 09:02

Yes, and having a woman as VP means he is still top dog and 'she' has to be subservient to him.

I just love it when a female intelligent kick ass journo challenges him. He literally cannot cope with it.

Lweji · 28/07/2020 09:41

A female VP is a nod to Biden.

But I also wonder if GOP managed to convince him into a Cheney-Bush deal, which could only be done with a woman. As said, less threatening and that he sees as inferior, but more competent than Pence, who isn't that much above Trump.

Lweji · 28/07/2020 09:44

Tweet from a scientist who is also politically active.

twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1287983059472494599

Carl T. Bergstrom
Today has seen a remarkable push of pro-hydroxychloroquine propaganda. The America's Frontline Doctors video on Breitbart. Trump retweeting a claim that it works, now removed by Twitter. Massive social media action. Rudy (below).
I don't understand it, but it feels coordinated.
28 Jul 20

Roussette · 28/07/2020 10:25

Funnily enough, I read this morning that hydroxychloroquine is totally ineffective against COVID. That was some story Trump sold his clan.

PerkingFaintly · 28/07/2020 10:29

Wow. That's an interesting and scary thread, Lweji.

Huge co-ordinated messaging push to revive the idea of hydroxychloroquine as cure for Covid. But it's not just (or even primarily) about pushing HCP. It's about scapegoating anyone who doesn't push HCP – thus trying to dump the failure of Trump's Covid management onto "bogeymen who kept the miracle cure from you".

PerkingFaintly · 28/07/2020 10:35

HCP HCQ

So where is this orginating?

I can see this working for the Russians & Trump simultaneously.

Trumpies always rush to blame other people for Trump's failures, so they will like this. The Russians probably know HCQ isn't effective, and are more than happy to see more deaths but particularly more chaos in the US.

PerkingFaintly · 28/07/2020 10:42

Josh Marshall @joshtpm
Replying to
@CT_Bergstrom
it is a great mystery the persistence of this push. A very deep commitment. my sense is that it’s tied to his increased focus on vaccines. Having failed on the basic infectious disease blocking and tackling they’re trying for a rabbit out of a hat, tech breakthrough ...
7:46 am · 28 Jul 2020·Twitter for iPad

Josh Marshall @joshtpm
Replying to
@joshtpm
and
@CT_Bergstrom
2/ that changes the political equation. You’ll note Rudy’s emphasis on the anti-hydroxy people now being responsible for the tens of thiusands of death. More a political argument abt blame than a therapeutic claim abt future treatment.

Prasad Jallepalli, MD, PhD @jallepap
This is beyond my pay grade, but the scale of this certainly seems new (for 2020) and possibly the fruit of foreign actors

Alex Doan @alexdoan96
At the very least it's yet another attempt to deflect blame from their horrific mishandling of the pandemic.

First they tried to blame China.

Then they tried to discredit Dr. Fauci.

Now they're onto "HCQ works and doctors have lied" conspiracy theories.

Invisible Stealth Resister @JTMontgomery8
Replying to
@CT_Bergstrom
It does seem coordinated, either to placate the POTUS or to keep up the stock of companies that manufacture the drug.
Has anyone tracked down these doctors' credentials?

East2West Flag of United States @CarolynEast2
I have. The main doctor in the video went to medical school in Nigeria. Her medical specialty is pediatrics. The "Medical Center" she says she is affiliated with is located in a strip mall in Houston with a temporary sign. It was started less than a year ago.

Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing
Replying to
@CT_Bergstrom
It definitely is. It’s broken every record of how fast a video spreads and racks up views.

Jeffrey Belk
@jkbelk
This is not organic, this is a totally manipulated effort around HCQ today...

Nanny0gg · 28/07/2020 10:58

[quote TheNorthWestPawsage]Colour me surprised Hmm

Trump backs out of throwing first pitch at Yankees game
thehill.com/homenews/administration/509100-trump-backs-out-of-throwing-first-pitch-at-yankees-game[/quote]
But apparently wasn't actually invited in the first place!