To think bad of people that work in slaughterhouses??

[RiverMeadow]

I was reading something earlier and it got me thinking about the members of staff who actually work in slaughterhouses and who see these things first hand.

Regardless of whether you eat meat or not we're all still human and I'd assume it's a job that's a very hard one emotionally... or am I wrong?? Do the colleagues just look at it like a job and not physically killing animals? It would break my heart 😭

[topcat2014]

I enjoy meat, and am glad other people work in slaughterhouses so I can do that.

Plenty of people do jobs I couldn't do:

What about pest controllers.
People doing the badger cull,
Collecting dead dogs off the motorway,
etc etc

[gonesolo]

As others have said, you can only take this viewpoint if you’re vegetarian (and don’t have a cat or a dog that eats meaty cat/dog food, obviously). Otherwise YABU.

[RiverMeadow]

@Wewearpinkonwednesdays Yes sometimes!

[RiverMeadow]

@VanillaSpiceCandle I don't think I have been rude, I certainly didn't mean to be.

[Wewearpinkonwednesdays]

You can not compare a lawyer with someone who slaughtered animals day in day out ffs!

Why, lawyers knowingly help people they know are guilty of awful crimes go free.
Surely someone who knowingly helps a rapist or child abuser walk free is worse than someone who shoots a bolt of electricity through the head of a cow.

[Wewearpinkonwednesdays]

@RiverMeadow what's the difference between one life and another then?

[bluebluezoo]

They want to have their bacon and eat it

And eat it cheaply.

[chipfork]

I haven't eaten meat for over 30 years but as long as there is a demand for meat I would never look at anyone who worked in a slaughterhouse at the 'supply end' any different to someone who sold or served meat at the 'demand end', one wouldn't exist without the other. I expect most people with these jobs are just doing what's available to them rather than fall into unemployment/sanctions.

[RiverMeadow]

@Wewearpinkonwednesdays Because a lawyer isn't physically killing an animal for someone to eat? What is so hard to understand about that?!

I'm sure being a lawyer is hard emotionally too but thats a different story. I'm taking about the physical killing of a being and how awful it must be to have to do that for a living so I'm not really sure what you're getting at?

[bluebluezoo]

Why, lawyers knowingly help people they know are guilty of awful crimes go free.
Surely someone who knowingly helps a rapist or child abuser walk free is worse than someone who shoots a bolt of electricity through the head of a cow

Maybe you should read a defence laywers job description.

They have a moral and ethical obligation to argue the defence to the best of their ability. Everyone has the right to a fair trial.

Otherwise we could not bother with lawyers and trials and let facebook decide or something?

[eaglejulesk]

I don't live in the UK, but here many people work in slaughterhouses for decades and seem to cope with it. I wouldn't work there myself, but I have friends (female) who have done so and it didn't appear to affect them. Many immigrants work in them now, but when I was young it was mostly locals and depending on what part of the plant they worked in the money used to be good.

[SadSisters]

Do vegans ever think about the animals slaughtered in crop farming?

We do, but because we have done our research we know that animal agriculture uses 80% of the world’s agricultural land but provides only 20% of its calories, and that everyone switching to a vegan diet could reduce agricultural land use by up to 76%, so we feel better knowing that veganism is the best way to reduce the harm caused to animals by crop farming.

[Wewearpinkonwednesdays]

We do, but because we have done our research we know that animal agriculture uses 80% of the world’s agricultural land but provides only 20% of its calories, and that everyone switching to a vegan diet could reduce agricultural land use by up to 76%, so we feel better knowing that veganism is the best way to reduce the harm caused to animals by crop farming.

Hmm, I see.

[Chocolate1984]

15+ years ago my brothers friend was unemployed and ended up working in a slaughter house. He said most were drunk, cruel to animals and a bit psychotic. He managed to get another job and left.

[SadSisters]

Why, lawyers knowingly help people they know are guilty of awful crimes go free

This is not true. If your client tells you they’re guilty you aren’t allowed to stand up in court and defend them. You would have to recuse yourself. Lawyers have a duty of candour to the court which overrides their duty to their client.

They may suspect their client is guilty but have to defend them anyway because their client professes their innocence. That’s because in this country we uphold the principle of innocence until guilt is proven, and believe that it’s in the public interest that everyone is entitled to a fair trial and a defence, regardless of the crime they are suspected of committing.

[Wewearpinkonwednesdays]

They have a moral and ethical obligation to argue the defence to the best of their ability. Everyone has the right to a fair trial.

They still help criminals go free and they go into the job knowing they will eventually do that. Of course everyone is entitled to a fair trial, it doesn't make a guilty person innocent because they're not convicted.

[Wewearpinkonwednesdays]

Because a lawyer isn't physically killing an animal for someone to eat? What is so hard to understand about that?!

No, but they will very likely, at some point help a dangerous person walk free to inflict more trauma on innocent people.

[VanillaSpiceCandle]

@RiverMeadow ok, I thought it seemed really harsh as you said ‘think bad’ of people that work there. Just the way it was written.

However the UK has very high standards especially compared to abroad. I’m sure that more needs to be done because there’s always room for improvement.

[Ravenesque]

Yabu. I'm a vegetarian and I couldn't work in a slaughterhouse as I think I'd need to be sectioned after a week, but a lot of people have no choice other than to do a job that's on offer. The town my mum came from in Ireland had one major employer and that was a whole pig factory, you were either killing the pigs or cutting them up, etc. If people wanted a job in her town, that's where they worked.

People tend not to go into that sort of work because it's their dream job but because it's a job. I couldn't and wouldn't do it, but I don't judge anyone who does. While we all continue to eat meat there has to be slaughterhouses because that's how we get meat.

[GreytExpectations]

Op I see you backtracked nicely there. Your judgemental attitude is coming through very strong. It's a job that pays for them and possibly their family. Someone needs to do it. Your choice to be a vegetarian but you don't get to sit on your moral high horse and judge those who are trying to make a living.

[SadSisters]

They still help criminals go free and they go into the job knowing they will eventually do that. Of course everyone is entitled to a fair trial, it doesn't make a guilty person innocent because they're not convicted.

What’s the alternative? We automatically convict everyone accused of a crime in the hope that some of them are guilty and just view the ones who are innocent as collateral damage?

[cdtaylornats]

Do you feel sorry for the people harvesting fruit. Dragging what are essentially plant foetuses away from their parent.

[BobLemon]

I wish voting had been turned on

YABU

[RiverMeadow]

@GreytExpectations I don't think so...!

[Fairyflaps]

Someone I know worked as a vet in a slaughterhouse. He found it very difficult and it affected his mental health quite badly. It wasn't what he envisaged doing as a vet.