To think bad of people that work in slaughterhouses??

[RiverMeadow]

I was reading something earlier and it got me thinking about the members of staff who actually work in slaughterhouses and who see these things first hand.

Regardless of whether you eat meat or not we're all still human and I'd assume it's a job that's a very hard one emotionally... or am I wrong?? Do the colleagues just look at it like a job and not physically killing animals? It would break my heart 😭

[ZeldalovesLink]

I am speechless beyond words and simply wondering where do these people come from and what is wrong with them?

From the demand created by meat eaters. Stop eating meat and you stop facilitating abuse and cruelty in slaughterhouses. It’s basically that simple.

[ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia]

Goats punched, hit, kicked and ‘left lame’ at farm supplying milk to Tesco, Sainsbury, Waitrose and Ocado, video shows

Regretting about highjacking this thread but I saw and wanted to share here if appropriate. I am speechless beyond words and simply wondering where do these people come from and what is wrong with them? To provide food context I and family eat a balanced diet including a variety of meat, seafoods and vegetables etc and pretty much all food groups (especially experimenting with super foods) but trying to cut down on meat and dairy and things like this definitely helps to recalibrate ones thinking!

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/goats-milk-st-helens-farm-yoghurt-hit-kick-animal-cruelty-video-a9639021.html

[RiverMeadow]

@crosstalk Thank you for explaining that, I had no idea.

[crosstalk]

@rivermeadow Vets are present in the slaughterhouse to check animals are fit to be slaughtered eg not diseased and whether they are properly dispatched. However there aren't enough vets and we'll lose those we get from eg Spain with Brexit. The smaller and often kinder slaughterhouses haven't been able to justify the cost of vets and have closed. The huge problem is the length of travel so animals travel for hours to slaughter which is distressing especially with no water. The old small slaughterhouses dealt with ten or so at a time and put them into layerage (stalls with food) before despatching them individually.

[70isaLimitNotaTarget]

II also totally judge people who have been to one and still eat meat

I totally judge people who whine "Oh no don't tell me what happens to them. Pooor animals I don't want to think about it . How awful , I can't bear it"

And then eat meat .
That animal didn't throw itself onto a blade
Steak doesn't grow in a field . ( Cows do)

If you are going to eat it , own the knowledge .

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[Bizawit]

@elessar you think working in a slaughterhouse is “a very compassionate thing to do” ?!! the feats of logic that the human mind can conjure. Extraordinary.

OP YANBU.

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Would people say that about nurses and doctors who carry out abortions? No, and their posts would be deleted, and rightly so.

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Some really wild and nasty assumptions being made about abattoir workers on this thread.

[WhatTheWay]

At best they are cold with zero empathy. At worst they are sadists who play football with the chickens and stab pigs I'm the back while riding them around for a laugh-

That's a ridiculous statement. I'm not like that and none of the people I worked with were. I'm not saying that every single
Person who works in an abattoir must be perfect as there are bound to be a few who aren't. I must have worked in 5 or 6 different places. All were clean, humane and professionally run.

[SerendipityJane]

I also totally judge people who have been to one and still eat meat. Lack of empathy.

Or hungry.

[Carouselfish]

And to the pp who said we've been killing animals for meat forever, not in a factory setting, like it doesn't matter, like they aren't living creatures aware of what's happening. I also totally judge people who have been to one and still eat meat. Lack of empathy. Bizarre.

[Carouselfish]

And there are a lot of other ways to earn money FFS. It's a choice of a job.

[Carouselfish]

I have dropped a friend for having previously done that job.
Remember that really horrible man who won the lottery and spent it all on drugs, prostitutes and endless parties in about two years? He was a brain dead thug. Really scary guy. Anyway, once he was broke again he got a job in a slaughterhouse and has never been happier. Yeah. I bet he loves it.

If you've ever seen expose videos it's not the kind of place people who give a shit about animals suffering work. At best they are cold with zero empathy. At worst they are sadists who play football with the chickens and stab pigs I'm the back while riding them around for a laugh. Any RSPCA inspections are worthless because they tell them in advance when they're coming. They arent going to catch them in the act.

[WhatTheWay]

Goosefoot. Sorry crossposted.

Exactly. The smaller abbatoirs aren’t cost effective so have been closed down. In some ways I can see the advantage of the huge super-abbatoirs as they are easier to regulate but that’s at the expense of the animals welfare.

[WhatTheWay]

Seriously, if you are Bothered about animal cruelty then it’s not the abattoirs that are the issue it’s the transportation that causes the most distress to animals in my opinion. At present live animals can be transported hundreds and hundreds of miles.

[Goosefoot]

What’s actually cruel is that animals are transported hundreds even thousands of miles to be slaughtered. That is extremely cruel and should be stopped. I’d prefer to pay more and eat locally killed animals.

Again though, this is a product of centralised industrial food production. Small abattoirs get closed down.

[WhatTheWay]

GetOffYourHighHorse*.

You are correct in that I don’t regret working in an abattoir at all. The thought of regretting it wouldn’t crossed my mind. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m obviously ok about killing animals for food so why would I regret working in that industry. I didn’t see a single example of deliberate animal cruelty the whole time I was there. If I had I would have done something about it.
I see no reason why I should be coy about having enjoyed it either. I did enjoy it and I loved how fit I became. 💪🏻💪🏻It was great! I wouldn’t want to do it long term because it would be boring and repetitive but as a short term thing it was a good choice.
If people want to be vegetarians or vegans that’s up to them. It doesn’t bother me one way or another but I dont think there is any need for people to look down on people who work in abattoirs. It’s patronising.

Also, I referred to processing the animals because that is what happens at abattoirs. You process the animals. The killing bit Only takes seconds and Is only a tiny part of the whole process. What do you suggest you should call it. You kill the animals then you process them 🤷🏻‍♀️ The animals can’t understand English so I don’t think it matters to them what it’s called.

🥩🥩🥩

[RiverMeadow]

Does anyone happen to know why vets are present in the slaughterhouse?

[Goosefoot]

@SerendipityJane

Humans aren't inherently farmers anyway. There isn't a farming gene we suddenly developed 10,000 years ago (indeed the spontaneous emergence of farming in different locations is a mystery). I don't think there are many - if any - vegetarian let alone vegan hunter gatherer societies ? (Certainly the Masai don't shun milk and blood).

(Not really following the finer detail of the thread, but felt like dropping that in there )

And having woken up and thought to themselves "This farming seems like a piece of piss", humans then set about clearing huge swathes of woodland and forest (with no regard for the effect on the wildlife) in order to have nice workable fields. Forest clearances that certainly caused a degree of climate change in the neolithic world.

Whilst farming might seem like a better life than that of a nomadic hunter gather, it certainly paves the way for some really nasty diseases that humans suffer. Mainly because there's little incentive with a stationary population to keep hosts alive for long ....

There aren't any whole societies that are vegan or vegetarian, which you would think their would be if it was actually more efficient. It would be advantageous in a marginal climate to be as efficient as possible with land use and what energy you gain from what you eat. And there have been plenty of societies where food production was marginal.

What you see is the opposite though. Those few groups that have been vegetarian have always been societies where there was excess (like ours) and typically the vegetarians are the elite who have wealth. They were also not the farmers in those societies, the farmers were poorer and depended on animal products and labour. So ultimately the vegetarians in those systems were still dependent on an agricultural system that included animal husbandry.

[RiverMeadow]

@julybaby32* The title, and what OP says they mean by the title, don't entire match up, but the title is more easily visible.

I think OP is being unreasonable in not asking for the title to be changed if it is not what they meant to put, because as it stands, I feel somewhat concerned that it will trigger attacks on slaughterhouse workers. Sometimes it doesn't take much...*

I didn't realise I could ask for the title to be changed, my bad!

[Goosefoot]

@endlessginandtonic

we aren’t instinctively driven to hunt and kill our own food.

I'm not completely convinced this is true. Many humans have retained this urge and I am inclined to suspect that if it was the only way to acquire meat or fish more people would return to it.

Yeah, I don't know whoever thought this. If a person is hungry they will eat what they can get and it doesn't take long before they will be looking for higher protein and fat things like bugs.

[Elsewyre]

I wouldn't say I think bad of them they do an unpleasant job so I dont have to.


I feel bad for them not about them

[SerendipityJane]

Humans aren't inherently farmers anyway. There isn't a farming gene we suddenly developed 10,000 years ago (indeed the spontaneous emergence of farming in different locations is a mystery). I don't think there are many - if any - vegetarian let alone vegan hunter gatherer societies ? (Certainly the Masai don't shun milk and blood).

(Not really following the finer detail of the thread, but felt like dropping that in there )

And having woken up and thought to themselves "This farming seems like a piece of piss", humans then set about clearing huge swathes of woodland and forest (with no regard for the effect on the wildlife) in order to have nice workable fields. Forest clearances that certainly caused a degree of climate change in the neolithic world.

Whilst farming might seem like a better life than that of a nomadic hunter gather, it certainly paves the way for some really nasty diseases that humans suffer. Mainly because there's little incentive with a stationary population to keep hosts alive for long ....

[Goosefoot]

@mrbob

Or in the US, corn is grown in excess because of the way it is subsidised, beef feed lots became a way to add value to the corn glut

I think there is an obvious solution to that rather than saying we have to have animals in feed lots...

That's not the point, the issue is that farming cows did not induce industrial soybean production so stopping eating meat isn't going to stop it. That is one of the myths of environmental veganism.

Additionally, industrial farming is a system problem. Not just one element but the whole thing

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How depressing WhatTheWay

Why is it depressing? Some people just don't have the same feelings around death than others. If people have to do that job, then would it not be better if they didn't live their life full of regret and guilt?