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Feeling on edge about going out because I keep bumping into this strange man who was pestering me

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Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 13:52

I have name changed for the purpose of this thread. I need to preface this post by telling you I have significant anxiety and poor mental health stemming from a decade of abuse. It is because of those factors that my reaction to situations like this will differ greatly to that of more resilient women who may feel able to simply say "do one mate"

A couple of weeks ago when I was on my way to the shops I was stopped by a dodgy looking man, I say dodgy because he was intimidating to look at. He was wearing a hood, had what looked like a home made tattoo on his face, a scruffy beard and a large dog with him.

I was wearing headphones so I couldn't hear whatever he was saying and when he realised that he stepped into my path and gestured for me to remove the headphones.

He then asked if he could talk to me for a few minutes.

I told him I couldn't stop as I have an appointment and continued to walk but he wasn't deterred and kept walked alongside me trying to get me to stop and chat. He asked where I live and I said the opposite side of town (he had actually caught me 5 minutes from where I live) and he said oh ok, I live on that street there - gesturing to one within walking distance of my own road.

He was making me very uncomfortable and kept asking me for my telephone number. I decided I would give him a false number so I could be left in peace.

As I began to recite an 07... he said hang on let me put your name in first then I'll call you now so you have my number too.

I then panicked and wondered how he would respond to realising the number was false so I told him my name was something else and gave the correct number. Huge mistake but I just wanted to get out of there and I've first hand experience of men becoming abusive when rejected and he was giving me the creeps.

I managed to get away from him with him saying he would text me later. I immediately blocked the number from calling and texting and that was that.

Around a week later I'm out with my mother and my young child in the pram and I see him coming up the street again, I put my head down and walked straight past quickly. He didn't say anything but stopped in his tracks and stared.

Half an hour later I get a message on WhatsApp (it didn't occur to check whether he used that) and it's him asking if I would "start seeing him" and that he hasn't stopped thinking about me. At this point I respond and say sorry I'm not interested I have a partner.

He replied several times but i deleted the message thread without opening them.

I didn't want to block him as it was clear I would keep bumping into him and didn't want him to have a reason to be aggressive the next time I saw him in the street. I had been polite but firm and hoped that would be the end of it.

Then today I'm going to my local supermarket and he's coming up the street in my direction again so I keep my headphones in and look down and rush past. He doesn't say anything but slows down and stares.

Sure enough within the hour he's texting again on WhatsApp, sending me conspiracy theory posts. I then block him on that application so he has no way of getting in touch at all.

Whenever I see him he ignites my anxiety and I'm scared of him approaching me the next time he sees me. It doesn't look like I can avoid him as when I have seen him it's either on my local high street or near my house

He hasn't committed a crime so it's not a police matter but he makes me feel unsafe and I get a terrible vibe from him, like he's dangerous.

I can't not use my local supermarket and I can't not use the high street.

Do you think he'll get bored or do I have a problem on my hands?

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PumpkinP · 20/06/2020 14:47

I thought so, otherwise I was going to suggest he speaks to him and tells him to do one (yes I know it shouldn’t have to be a man before anyone jumps on me) but men like him only act like this towards women so another man speaking to him would put a stop to it. I don’t think there is any hard in contacting the police but do you even know exactly where he lived? Ime the police haven’t been helpful in these situations sadly

Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 14:54

I know the road but not the door number. I only have his first name but I do have his photo that I took a screen shot of on WhatsApp.

I wish I had just told him to fuck off the first time he approached me but if you saw him I think you'd agree he's intimidating. I can't post his picture for obvious reasons but have shown a close friend who agreed he's frightening.

It doesn't help that I'm a bit weary of dogs and the one he had with him was a big one. I didn't know how he'd react to being told to go away. He could have assaulted me / robbed me / anything really.

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NameChange84 · 20/06/2020 14:54

OP has his phone number to give to the police.

With the man who stalked me, I didn’t know his last name, his address, phone number...nothing. The police still tracked him down and went round to his home.

BananasBananas · 20/06/2020 14:57

You are not overreacting. I dont have anxiety and that would freak me out.
I once had a stranger follow me round a shop and then call at me from his car asking for my number. That alone was enough to keep me looking over my shoulder all the way back to work. Definitely report it.

Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 14:57

@NameChange84

OP has his phone number to give to the police.

With the man who stalked me, I didn’t know his last name, his address, phone number...nothing. The police still tracked him down and went round to his home.

I'm so sorry you went through that NameChange, what happened when the police paid him a visit? Did he stop?
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Rebeccasmoonnecklace · 20/06/2020 14:58

This situation sounds very worrying and anxiety provoking. This man appears to be persistent and does not seem to realise that his attention is unwanted by you. I can understand how you must be feeling OP, I can also understand why you felt you had to give him your telephone number.

Please keep a record of all that has happened with him and contact attempts he has made with you both face to face and via your telephone if you can. The Suzy Lamplugh Trust have some fabulous information available on their website www.suzylamplugh.org, you'll find help and advice and information about the National Stalking Helpline who you may like to make contact with to discuss your situation further with trained professionals.

Hope this helps x

NameChange84 · 20/06/2020 15:06

Yes, he stopped.

Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 15:28

You've all been very helpful thank you for taking the time to respond. I'm feeling more calm for getting it off my chest.

I'm looking at the website recommendations and will download the Bsafe app suggested. I'll also make a log.

I'm aware you can do that without having them make a formal visit, just so there is a reference and a trail should things escalate.

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Ilovechinese · 20/06/2020 15:40

I know you said you don't really have a partner, but have you got any Male friends or family members who could go and speak to him and tell him to leave you alone? He definitely sounds creepy and intimidating. I know you shouldn't have to do this as well but is there a way you could avoid going out for a while, like get shopping delivered as if he sees you around often I think he will guess you do live locally. Also if he doesn't see you around for a few weeks he will hopefully forget about you

EinsteinaGogo · 20/06/2020 15:40

You are not paranoid at all, OP. This must be very frightening.

Please do remember to get angry too. HOW DARE HE make you feel so anxious and worried.

You are not to blame at all - he is. Take steps to make sure he leaves you alone. As others have said, speak to the police. Don't be apologetic - ask them what they can do to help.

Next time you see him when you're out, if he's intimidating you, speak up and tell him you have made it clear you want nothing to do with him.

Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 15:46

I've been trying to secure a slot for home delivery for over a month as it were, they are like gold dust in my area it seems.

I could involve my DC's father as we are on good terms but I'd be worried about provoking more trouble or him being assaulted himself if he approached this bloke. Ex DP isn't a confrontational person.

It's shit that women have to deal with this type of thing and how some men are so entitled and relentless that they continue to push for interaction when the woman clearly just wants to be left alone.

I'm considering walking the long way around next time I need to go out, to completely avoid his street it will add on at least another 20 minutes to my journey but that's a small price to pay. I suppose I can't do much about bumping into him near the shops Sad

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BreatheAndFocus · 20/06/2020 16:43

Horrible! I’ve had this recently with a weird-looking guy. I’ve actually changed my route to avoid him and so that he can’t work out where I live. It is scary and you’re right to be concerned.

Report him and if you see him around, just give a neutral kind of acknowledgement and carry on. That, to me, is less likely to provoke anger.

Mine never got my phone number though. That’s very pushy of him - and I bet he knew you didn’t want to give it. Some men do this as a power thing. It’s disgusting and bullying.

I hope you’re feeling a little less stressed now Flowers

NameChange84 · 20/06/2020 17:12

I just want to also thank the poster that recommended Hollie Guard, I’ve just downloaded it and feel so much more reassured!

CatandtheFiddle · 20/06/2020 17:13

Op can’t give more or better advice than you’ve already received, but just wanted to say that you are NOT being irrational or unreasonable.

This man’s behaviour is totally out of order.

EmperorCovidula · 20/06/2020 17:29

I don’t have any constructive advice beyond saying that I understand. There are weirdos like this out there and the best you can do is to ignore them and how they get bored or take a gamble and involve the police. If at all possible I’d suggest installing some cctv just to get an idea of whether he knows where you live.

Namechangex10000 · 20/06/2020 17:36

Do you have a more confident friend or family member who could come with you a few times and speak up if he’s seen? If a friend came to me with this I would be insensed and would absolutely speak up?

SadSisters · 20/06/2020 17:42

By giving him your number you've indicated that you're interested, to be fair. Why did you do that?

Fuck off. Women do things they’re uncomfortable with all the time because they’re frightened of escalating a frightening situation. You’re lucky if you don’t have reason to understand that, but you’re also uninformed and should be less judgmental.

OP - definitely phone 101. Even if it settles down it won’t have hurt to log your experiences so far. Hopefully he will leave you alone now, but ask the police for their advice Flowers

Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 17:49

Thank you for validating my feelings, for confirming that he's a creep and that this is not my fault.

He should have left me be when I walked on and said I couldn't stop and talk the first time, not continue to pursue me and hound me to the point I felt I had to hand over my number just to get out of the situation.

He obviously guessed I was going to give a fake number that's why he wanted to phone my number before I left. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a habit of doing it to women, I'm no oil painting so it's not like I'm special.

I don't really have anybody who can come with me shopping other than my DM. She would definitely say something but I'm not convinced it would make a difference.

The good friends I have aren't local unfortunately. I'll have a word with my DC' father next time I see him just so he's aware of the situation. Having children with me most times I go out adds an extra layer of vulnerability that makes me feel on edge about seeing him.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 20/06/2020 17:54

It makes you feel more vulnerable. But actually people are more likely to jump in and help a mum with kids. And if it helps, you can start to be firmer thinking that this is modelling to your children. If it helps!

Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 17:54

Every time I cross paths with him he has his hood up regardless of how hot it is, this was the case the first time I ever saw him too.

He could have spotted me often and I'd not notice because you just don't know it's him unless he's coming directly infront of you and you see the face/tattoo.

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Georgie31 · 20/06/2020 19:54

I have anxiety too I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. The problem with anxiety is you over think scenarios before they even happen. So when he said hang on give me your name first then I'll call the number, you panicked about his reaction before it even happen so gave him your real number. And when you see him start to worry what he might do or say before it's happened. I do this all the time!!! CBT helped me with that how you can slow down and process your thoughts. Doesn't change the fact he's a massive creep and very pushy!!! If it continues and he tries to stop you in the street I'm pretty sure it's classed as harassment especially if you've already told him your not interested in any kind of relationship with him. Remember you can only control your own actions not others so worrying about it and over thinking it won't help.

BreatheAndFocus · 20/06/2020 19:58

Note his clothes. The one who harrasses me has a certain ‘style’ in clothes and it’s usually that that alerts me rather than his face becuaseve tried to avoid eye contact so haven’t noticed his face detail. Also note his posture, the way he walks, etc.

I had my DC with me too. So yes, they still do it when you have children with you. Again, acknowledge them in a way you might acknowledge a vague acquaintance but do no more. That way you haven’t been rude or aggravated them but you’ve clearly shown you’re not interested.

Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 19:59

That's very true indeed.

The old me, pre-anxiety would have probably told him to go away after he stepped out infront of me the first time.

Being on high alert all of the time now definitely makes me over think others behaviour. What if he attacks me? What if he tries to mug me? For example.

It didn't help matters that he had a big dog with him Blush

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Casschops · 20/06/2020 20:01

OK stick his number on here we can bombard him with back off messages.

Anxietyandmyself · 20/06/2020 20:03

@BreatheAndFocus

Note his clothes. The one who harrasses me has a certain ‘style’ in clothes and it’s usually that that alerts me rather than his face becuaseve tried to avoid eye contact so haven’t noticed his face detail. Also note his posture, the way he walks, etc.

I had my DC with me too. So yes, they still do it when you have children with you. Again, acknowledge them in a way you might acknowledge a vague acquaintance but do no more. That way you haven’t been rude or aggravated them but you’ve clearly shown you’re not interested.

I honestly couldn't tell you what he was wearing each of those times, just that the top/jacket was hooded and that he looked disheveled, scruffy and had a strong odour of sweat.

I was too distracted by his face/tattoo to note anything else at the time but I'll definitely make a point of paying attention to clothes in future!

I'm sorry you've had this happen to you, and with your children aswell. What an utter arsehole.

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