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to Hide the racist bigot work colleagues from my facebook

125 replies

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 20/06/2020 08:25

it is doing my blood pressure no favours,

however it is like scab, irresistible

what would you do?

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CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 20/06/2020 10:39

you are wrong @linning.

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OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 20/06/2020 10:41

I’ve blocked half my family, some awful twat from work wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

Linning · 20/06/2020 10:43

@CrowdedHouseinQuarantine

you are wrong *@linning*.
So far everything you have said and did (or well didn't do) are pointing toward me not being wrong and the fact that you played the ''reverse racism'' card on me when questioned didn't really help either. So I am gonna go ahead and continue to think I am right.
Oysterbabe · 20/06/2020 10:49

Reporting to HR is a good point. You would be fired from my company if you posted something racist on social media and I'm sure a lot of companies are the same.

notreallybotheredaboutausernam · 20/06/2020 10:52

100% agree @linning

For those saying there is no point calling out racism, they won't change their views etc, that's because it's becoming more acceptable to be openly racist. We should ALL confront it whenever we see it. Any racist facebook post should have a sea of people calling them out in the comments! The more we stand up to it and call it out, the less acceptable it becomes (to bigots I mean, obviously normal people don't see it as acceptable).

OP I call out racists at work. I spend more time at work than with my friends or partner, why should I listen to obnoxious views? There is nothing unprofessional about calling out racism. As for "how do you find time in your busy work life", well you found time to read his post? Only takes a minute to respond.

Ignoring racism is never ok.

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 20/06/2020 10:58

So far everything you have said and did (or well didn't do) are pointing toward me not being wrong and the fact that you played the ''reverse racism'' card on me when questioned didn't really help either. So I am gonna go ahead and continue to think I am right.

played the reverse racism card??
in what way?
where?

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CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 20/06/2020 10:59

hey its the weekend, i have time!

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Mittens030869 · 20/06/2020 11:01

How would you feel if your OH didn't speak up if his work colleagues were making disgusting misogynistic comments about women and he didn't speak up because it would make his work life awkward? If he said that he didn't agree with them but he preferred to have an easy life at work to standing up for his female colleagues?

If my DH didn't call them out on it, I would definitely be having words with him about it and tell him that he was guilty of tacitly condoning misogyny.

Not joining in isn't in any way enough.

DancingWithTheDevil · 20/06/2020 11:03

[quote Patbutcherismyhero]@bolderbaking Unfortunately a lot of these people can't be challenged. They aren't interested in other points of view. They are blinkered and will never change their minds. I don't blame the OP especially when it's work colleagues. [/quote]
This.
"Calling out" work colleagues never ends well. Their views are entrenched, they will not change them. They will shout you down for DARING to suggest they are racist and might well report you for bullying.

Clavinova · 20/06/2020 11:03

It's making me so depressed that they just can't grasp the very simple argument behind BLM or the trans movement or even brexit.

they all did the black Tuesday and some wrote heart felt posts about how awful racism is and how shocking that it still going on. But now they want to protect statues of Winston Churchill ...

Seems a bit unrealistic to expect people to change their opinion on Brexit now - or to agree that statues of Winston Churchill should be defaced and torn down.

roarfeckingroar · 20/06/2020 11:04

Get a grip @Linning . These are work colleagues - confronting them about their views on Facebook is never going to be a good idea.

DancingWithTheDevil · 20/06/2020 11:05

All in all, it creates a toxic work environment. I don't blame anyone for keeping quiet, especially when it's facebook posts. If they say something at work, by all means tell them to stop in your presence, or report them.

Mittens030869 · 20/06/2020 11:06

I'm using the example of sexism so that you might see why a POC would feel that you don't care about racism. I can't claim to have experienced racism as a white woman, but I know that, if I feel angry when men don't call out misogyny when they see it, then obviously a POC will be angered by white people staying silent on racism.

Nothing ever changes if no one speaks up.

AtaMarie · 20/06/2020 11:09

I think Linning is right, too. Challenging racism requires more than sharing BLM memes on Facebook. To unfriend someone on FB means absolutely nothing without explaining why.

Gulabjamoon · 20/06/2020 11:14

happy to unfollow plenty

Big fucking deal, here’s a Halo for you Hmm

Unfollowing does fuck all and is cowardly. Call them out and unfriend. Screen shot racism and send to HR. Don’t expect a medal for less.

DancingWithTheDevil · 20/06/2020 11:21

what exactly is "racism" in this scenario, though? I've seen some people post things from fringe political parties that I find offensive. But they are valid, legal political parties. Should we police peoples legal political opinions that might verge on xenophobia or racism? Morally should a workplace be able to dictate what (legally allowed) political opinions are shared online by their staff, even if they are distasteful to most others? This is all just musing, really. Obviously, clearly racist things are a different matter. But there is a lot that falls into the grey area between political opinion/borderline racism.

Linning · 20/06/2020 11:21

@roarfeckingroar

Get a grip *@Linning* . These are work colleagues - confronting them about their views on Facebook is never going to be a good idea.
Not going to get a grip thank you, I don't care that those are work colleagues, is racism, sexism and homophobia acceptable from work colleagues now?

Plenty of women posts about their coworkers making sexist comments every single woman come and tell them '' Complain to HR and make a report" or "Tell them it's fucking inappropriate''

Why is it appropriate to confront the sexism of some work colleagues but not the racism of others, hmm?

Ilovechinese · 20/06/2020 11:22

Forget hide him! Screen shot any racist posts then show them to your manager and say how bad it looks for the company and then delete the scum!

annabel85 · 20/06/2020 11:23

@WowLucky

I am shocked at the number of people I know (and like, usually) who have really abhorrent views which have come to light over the mast few week, but also the number of my friends who are really just a bit thick and can't grasp the issues.

They are decent enough people but they really can't see why Black Lives Matter is different to All Lives Matter, for example.

As thick as ongoing mass protests during a pandemic.
CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 20/06/2020 11:23

Funnily enough these particularly colleagues, and I think there are 3 of them, are fond of saying it like it is

I see it as a facebook issue tbh

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CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 20/06/2020 11:24

i am not ratting on them to management, I dont think our particular department is mentioned in their facebook posts.

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Gulabjamoon · 20/06/2020 11:26

I’m guessing OP has never heard the saying ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing’ if she thinks unfollowing is brave.

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 20/06/2020 11:33

thanks for your input folks

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Oysterbabe · 20/06/2020 11:34

It doesn't matter whether your department is mentioned. Most employment contracts these days include a clause about not bringing the profession or company name into disrepute. Posting something racist is perfectly reasonable grounds to sack someone.

Cadent · 20/06/2020 11:36

I see why many blank women on Mumsnet refuse to comment on threads like these. Self serving bull shit.