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MIL ignores my instructions... again

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84teacher · 17/06/2020 21:52

My daughter is 17 months old and ever since she was born there has been friction between my boyfriend's mother and I; its as if she has no regard for any routines or instructions I give, and does as she pleases. I could handle this if my boyfriend backed me up but he never does, he thinks I am unreasonable... am I?

Many things have happened and each time I have raised the issue with my boyfriend, but it develops into an argument as he sees it all as harsh criticism of his mother, but I will summarise a few:

MIL turned up at our house with her daughter, son-in-law and elderly neighbour within an hour of us getting home from the hospital. I had been discharged 20 hours after giving birth. My boyfriend had decided that no family were allowed to visit for the first few days - I think he actually meant just MY family. I was not told they were coming, but my boyfriend had been on the phone to them while I was having a nap on the sofa and told them they could visit. I held my baby close and refused to let MIL hold her when she asked; I told her that I needed time to bond with my baby and wouldn't be letting anybody but her father hold her for the first week or so.

For the first month of our baby's life MIL kept visiting unannounced; she had been given a key for our apartment 2 weeks before I went into labour so that she could come and feed our Cats if needed. MIL refused to give the key up until I physically took it from her on the final unannounced visit. During her visits MIL would try and take baby from my breast as she was feeding, she also snook in to the bedroom while I was asleep and took baby from the bassinet to have a cuddle in the living room.

Biggie!!! When baby was 4 months old MIL and SIL came to visit when I had taken her out for a walk; when I returned MIL had come out of the apartment, down 5 flights of stairs and was running towards me screeching and waving her arms. She asked if she could take baby for a walk in the pram on her own. I obliged but informed her that baby would be due a feed soon, so she must be back in 30 minutes. When MIL wasn't back in time I tried to call her phone but it was switched off. SIL and BF were telling me not to panic, and give her more time. After an hour I got my trainers on and sprinted (very difficult with full breasts) around the block to try and find her, she was nowhere to be seen. I returned and sent BF and SIL out in their cars to find her. BF returned with her 4 HOURS AFTER SHE HAD LEFT; it turned out she had been to meet "friends" (my boyfriend's ex-gf and her sister) for coffee in the local park; MIL had also given baby a yoghurt (not even a baby yoghurt, she was solely breastfed and I hadn't started weaning her at that point).

After the incident above I refused to let MIL have any alone time with baby at all until she was 11 months old. MIL had offered to look after her when I returned to work full-time and BF was refusing to use any paid childcare. I let her look after baby for a few hours each afternoon while I caught up with housework. I knew she was struggling, she has no empathy and no patience with children. A few weeks before I was due back at work she turned on the water-works and told BF that she couldn't cope with looking after baby, but then blamed it on me - she said that I had denied her the chance to bond and get to know her granddaughter.

The covid-19 lockdown... MIL turns up unannounced a few times each week and expects to come into the house to see baby; I put my foot down straight away and agree to letting her see her in the garden (even though this is still technically against the law in the UK at that point). She cannot even remember to keep her distance and has to be told numerous times to back off; so I had to be the bad-guy again and insist that she only sees her through the window. We get the water-works again, BF and I don't speak for days because of the argument we had.

The latest... I am falling behind on work at home and we can now form bubbles in the UK, so we agreed that MIL can look after our daughter 2 afternoons each week. As my daughter is now 17 months old she is much more independent, and is able to tell you what she wants (and does not want). This afternoon I dropped her off with a bag of toys, a healthy snack, water cup etc. I gave MIL instructions that she should have her snack at around 3pm, to keep offering her water throughout the afternoon, ensure she is not in the sun for too long - all common-sense stuff really. More background: SIL is VERY obese (has diabetes and asthma because of her weight), MIL is a feeder; for the duration of our relationship I have been amazed at how my MIL instantly offers my BF (38 yo) biscuits, sweets and chocolates as soon as she sees him, and like a little child he never says no and doesn't actually know when to stop eating them. So... I also very clearly told her: NO CHOCOLATE OR BISCUITS! Baby has snacks in the bag, please only offer her them. BF collects baby on his way home from work and returns an hour later than usual; another really annoying trait MIL has is fault-picking, first it was the dreaded wind, then she thought baby had ADHD (I'm a teacher... don't even try this one on me when you have no educational experience Carol!), she is the sort of person who has to play doctor and find something wrong with baby - and it usually stems from something she thinks I am doing wrong. So when BF returns baby is overtired and hungry... - of course she is! If you had come straight home she could've had the dinner that has been ready for over 30 minutes!!! Baby's bib and T-Shirt are covered in CHOCOLATE, her snacks are still in the bag untouched and her sippy-cup smells of cordial. I try to be calm and tell BF that I left his mother with instructions and repeat them to him. He just walks away, mutters something under his breath and then ignores me until baby has gone to bed.

We just had yet another argument. Yes, I understand that a little chocolate once in a while, and a little cordial is probably harmless; but my point is that once again, she has completely disregarded my instructions and done her own thing. I raised the issue of his sister, and the fact that when living with his mother he too was obese. This didn't go down very well but I had to bring it up in my defence. I do not want my child growing up addicted to cake, biscuits and chocolate in the very unhealthy way that her aunty is, and her father was... all because MIL cannot follow simple instructions.

I just feel like I cannot trust this woman at all, and am so angry with my BF that I feel like leaving him. There are other mummy's-boy issues underpinning this that have affected our relationship.

So... thank you for reading. Am I being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
MrsCBY · 18/06/2020 10:10

It’s not your MIL who’s your real problem, it’s your “D”P.

If he doesn’t have your back on this, you’re on a hiding to nothing.

TheStuffedPenguin · 18/06/2020 10:11

I hope I never have a daughter in law like you . Dear God !

yomommasmomma · 18/06/2020 10:12

Not letting anyone hold your baby for her first week is nasty and completey unnecessary. Other than that your MIL sounds bonkers and I wouldn't let her have your child at all.
Also worth saying that in the UK we are only allowed to form bubbles if the other person lives alone. So as long as your MIL lives alone and agrees to not see anyone else (only you) then she is ok to be in a bubble with you, otherwise it's still not allowed.

pinkyredrose · 18/06/2020 10:12

Never ceases to amaze me how these MILs are all totally batshit, massively overstep boundaries, don’t seem to have the best interest or safety of the baby at heart and yet are a perfectly sound choice when it comes to free childcare

Can't you read? She isn't using the Mil as childcare!

Winter2020 · 18/06/2020 10:14

I think lots of Grandparents like to spoil their grandkids. This meme made me laugh because it is true of my parents and inlaws.

Like you I would not want to use grandparent care full time (I do think they feed them over the top and they would end up obese ) but I figure if their grandparents see them say once a week then the treats can’t do too much harm.

MIL ignores my instructions... again
snowybean · 18/06/2020 10:16

You should link this post to your bf and say "this sounds EXACTLY LIKE US" and let him read all of the responses.

Sounds like you need to sit him down and discuss working on your relationship. Get him to open up on everything, especially around his relationship with MIL. Then you need to talk about the various incidents with MIL and why you feel you can't trust her to be alone with DD. I think the 4-hour EBF thing would push me over the edge.

If you ring a phone twice in two minutes, it rings despite being in Do Not Disturb mode.

Heronwatcher · 18/06/2020 10:18

She doesn’t sound great (some of the early stuff not too bad, some (the 4hr disappearance) pretty awful) but what an earth were you expecting when you agreed to let her look after your LO? Immediate and complete personality change? You need to decide whether the benefits of free childcare are outweighed by the things you don’t like, but if she’s in charge then she is entitled (within reason) to do things her way. It’s in the past but I do think that not letting her hold the newborn for a few minutes is pretty cruel and not normal at all.

LagunaBubbles · 18/06/2020 10:18

I think you both sound as bad as each other.

Jellybeansincognito · 18/06/2020 10:20

Bar this op ‘I held my baby close and refused to let MIL hold her when she asked; I told her that I needed time to bond with my baby and wouldn't be letting anybody but her father hold her for the first week or so.’ I’m with you.

But you have a partner issue, not a mil issue.

Your partner doesn’t respect you at all, he’s the one you need to get rid of.

IntermittentParps · 18/06/2020 10:21

Tell your boyfriend to stand up for you and your DD or you're leaving. And mean it.

Anyone on here sneering about 'free childcare', fuck off. Well, read the OP's posts properly. Then fuck off anyway.

starfish4 · 18/06/2020 10:21

If you can't trust her , you'll either have to sort something out with work, ie unpaid leave or working different hours or look for alternative childcare. Am I right in thinking childminders are back at work? Our local nursery hasn't had many go back, so you may find vacancies there.

Jellybeansincognito · 18/06/2020 10:22

Also, you’re not a single parent or living alone so you shouldn’t be forming bubbles now anyway?

NancyJoan · 18/06/2020 10:23

@yomommasmomma

Not letting anyone hold your baby for her first week is nasty and completey unnecessary. Other than that your MIL sounds bonkers and I wouldn't let her have your child at all. Also worth saying that in the UK we are only allowed to form bubbles if the other person lives alone. So as long as your MIL lives alone and agrees to not see anyone else (only you) then she is ok to be in a bubble with you, otherwise it's still not allowed.
It was the baby's father who said no visitors for the first days, not OP. Only, he didn't mean his family, only hers. And I'm constantly reading threads on here where pregnant women are advised to going into hiding for the first few weeks and ask people to stay away.
Louise91417 · 18/06/2020 10:24

Oh my, i really dont no how you have had the patience to deal with this woman..or your boyfriend...seems like MIL has absolutely no respect for you and will do anything to undermine you. Taking your baby for 4hours would have been the final straw for me! As for your bf..he sounds like he needs to grow a pair..i agree with other posters..move closer to your own family..and leave your bf behindHmm

Nomorepies · 18/06/2020 10:27

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RachelGreen45 · 18/06/2020 10:28

@TheStuffedPenguin so you think the MILs behaviour is acceptable?

OldEvilOwl · 18/06/2020 10:30

MIL has been begging to have my daughter alone and although I feel I can't trust her, I understand that I have to meet in the middle and learn to trust her

No she has to earn YOUR trust. If she can't follow simple instructions then she doesn't get to have her again. Spell this out to her. Then it's no-ones fault but her own when you say no

Megatron · 18/06/2020 10:31

There's so much to unpick in this post.

Your MIL sounds like a nightmare.

You sound like you never gave her a chance in the early days.

Your DP sounds like a lily-livered mummy's boy.

Put these all together and I don't see how you can resolve this unless you all make some significant changes to your attitudes towards each other. How likely do you think that is going to happen @84teacher?

If not at all, then I wouldn't be able to stay in a situation like that as your daughter will be a bargaining tool (to all of you) til the year dot and that's really not healthy.

rm15 · 18/06/2020 10:31

You are absolutely not being unreasonable.
You sound sensible and it’s completely normal to let MIL have child for an afternoon however - NEVER AGAIN unsupervised.
I would absolutely not let any person, my parents or IL have my DS unsupervised if they played these kind of stunts. The 4 month saga had me completely outraged.

Get BF on side or give him the ultimatum - you get on board or you do one. Your mother is batshit and giving a 4 month d yoghurt is insane. I can’t even begin to imagine your panic when she didn’t come back with the baby. And directly going again against all my instructions now.... Some tough love im afraid. Sounds like he’s not that hands on (sorry if I have just assumed this) so ...
This would be a dealbreaker for me, he needs to back you 100%. I think a honest open convo - layout your must nots and your routine, maybe compromise (but only with him and minimally) and present a united front with MIL. If he’s not prepared to do that or he agrees then goes back on it then he’s telling you that his insane, overbearing mother is more important than you and your child. Then its game over. Sorry :(
Good luck. Get it sorted now before she wants to have her again.

ZooKeeper19 · 18/06/2020 10:31

Your problem is not your MIL. Your problem is your BF. He is completely not in your corner on anything. Until you sort him out, there is nothing you can do about your MIL I am afraid.

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nicky7654 · 18/06/2020 10:33

I feel as if your never going to win this situation. You may have years of this unless your partner listens to you and lays the law down with his Mother. Doesn't sound as if that will happen so to save years of heartache you may be better off separating. Your Partner isn't respecting you unfortunately. My children still as adults have issues with their over-bearing and manipulative Nan. One has disowned her and the other two are torn between doing this and still being in contact. I was never respected by them and am so very glad i separated and now have a wonderful Husband. I wish you all the best x

Megatron · 18/06/2020 10:34

I really take issue with people issuing 'instructions' to another adult in this context. There seems to be very poor communication here if you're issuing instructions rather than having half-way decent conversations about a child's needs.

Lesserspottedmama · 18/06/2020 10:34

Do not leave your child alone with her again. It’s not worth the stress. Set strong boundaries now and stick to them, in time she will come to accept them or at the very least give up complaining about them as she will eventually learn it’s not up for debate. Be calm, decisive and firm. Don’t get sucked into arguments as you don’t have to justify yourself to her. If you can, try and come across as empathetic to her point of view without ever giving in. Yes you can understand she wants to do xyz with her grandchild but this is what you and your partner have decided is best for your family right now and that’s that. You can always reevaluate in a couple of years when your child is older. I’ve had very similar issues except my husband doesn’t mind standing up to his mother although he does find it uncomfortable. You need to try and get across to your partner how imperative it is that he supports you, otherwise it’s like he hadn’t made that transition properly from being a son to his now primary role of father and partner?

ILoveYou3000 · 18/06/2020 10:38

OP you keep saying you're not using her as childcare- but you are! I appreciate you pay for nursery but you're letting her have her each afternoon so you can work- that's childcare. You say you don't trust her but need to let her have your DD so you can learn to trust her. But you don't and it's not working. You're doing it because it's free. You're bothered about her behaviour but you're allowing it to continue.

She allowed her to have her for 3 hours, one afternoon. Have another look through the OP's posts.