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MIL ignores my instructions... again

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84teacher · 17/06/2020 21:52

My daughter is 17 months old and ever since she was born there has been friction between my boyfriend's mother and I; its as if she has no regard for any routines or instructions I give, and does as she pleases. I could handle this if my boyfriend backed me up but he never does, he thinks I am unreasonable... am I?

Many things have happened and each time I have raised the issue with my boyfriend, but it develops into an argument as he sees it all as harsh criticism of his mother, but I will summarise a few:

MIL turned up at our house with her daughter, son-in-law and elderly neighbour within an hour of us getting home from the hospital. I had been discharged 20 hours after giving birth. My boyfriend had decided that no family were allowed to visit for the first few days - I think he actually meant just MY family. I was not told they were coming, but my boyfriend had been on the phone to them while I was having a nap on the sofa and told them they could visit. I held my baby close and refused to let MIL hold her when she asked; I told her that I needed time to bond with my baby and wouldn't be letting anybody but her father hold her for the first week or so.

For the first month of our baby's life MIL kept visiting unannounced; she had been given a key for our apartment 2 weeks before I went into labour so that she could come and feed our Cats if needed. MIL refused to give the key up until I physically took it from her on the final unannounced visit. During her visits MIL would try and take baby from my breast as she was feeding, she also snook in to the bedroom while I was asleep and took baby from the bassinet to have a cuddle in the living room.

Biggie!!! When baby was 4 months old MIL and SIL came to visit when I had taken her out for a walk; when I returned MIL had come out of the apartment, down 5 flights of stairs and was running towards me screeching and waving her arms. She asked if she could take baby for a walk in the pram on her own. I obliged but informed her that baby would be due a feed soon, so she must be back in 30 minutes. When MIL wasn't back in time I tried to call her phone but it was switched off. SIL and BF were telling me not to panic, and give her more time. After an hour I got my trainers on and sprinted (very difficult with full breasts) around the block to try and find her, she was nowhere to be seen. I returned and sent BF and SIL out in their cars to find her. BF returned with her 4 HOURS AFTER SHE HAD LEFT; it turned out she had been to meet "friends" (my boyfriend's ex-gf and her sister) for coffee in the local park; MIL had also given baby a yoghurt (not even a baby yoghurt, she was solely breastfed and I hadn't started weaning her at that point).

After the incident above I refused to let MIL have any alone time with baby at all until she was 11 months old. MIL had offered to look after her when I returned to work full-time and BF was refusing to use any paid childcare. I let her look after baby for a few hours each afternoon while I caught up with housework. I knew she was struggling, she has no empathy and no patience with children. A few weeks before I was due back at work she turned on the water-works and told BF that she couldn't cope with looking after baby, but then blamed it on me - she said that I had denied her the chance to bond and get to know her granddaughter.

The covid-19 lockdown... MIL turns up unannounced a few times each week and expects to come into the house to see baby; I put my foot down straight away and agree to letting her see her in the garden (even though this is still technically against the law in the UK at that point). She cannot even remember to keep her distance and has to be told numerous times to back off; so I had to be the bad-guy again and insist that she only sees her through the window. We get the water-works again, BF and I don't speak for days because of the argument we had.

The latest... I am falling behind on work at home and we can now form bubbles in the UK, so we agreed that MIL can look after our daughter 2 afternoons each week. As my daughter is now 17 months old she is much more independent, and is able to tell you what she wants (and does not want). This afternoon I dropped her off with a bag of toys, a healthy snack, water cup etc. I gave MIL instructions that she should have her snack at around 3pm, to keep offering her water throughout the afternoon, ensure she is not in the sun for too long - all common-sense stuff really. More background: SIL is VERY obese (has diabetes and asthma because of her weight), MIL is a feeder; for the duration of our relationship I have been amazed at how my MIL instantly offers my BF (38 yo) biscuits, sweets and chocolates as soon as she sees him, and like a little child he never says no and doesn't actually know when to stop eating them. So... I also very clearly told her: NO CHOCOLATE OR BISCUITS! Baby has snacks in the bag, please only offer her them. BF collects baby on his way home from work and returns an hour later than usual; another really annoying trait MIL has is fault-picking, first it was the dreaded wind, then she thought baby had ADHD (I'm a teacher... don't even try this one on me when you have no educational experience Carol!), she is the sort of person who has to play doctor and find something wrong with baby - and it usually stems from something she thinks I am doing wrong. So when BF returns baby is overtired and hungry... - of course she is! If you had come straight home she could've had the dinner that has been ready for over 30 minutes!!! Baby's bib and T-Shirt are covered in CHOCOLATE, her snacks are still in the bag untouched and her sippy-cup smells of cordial. I try to be calm and tell BF that I left his mother with instructions and repeat them to him. He just walks away, mutters something under his breath and then ignores me until baby has gone to bed.

We just had yet another argument. Yes, I understand that a little chocolate once in a while, and a little cordial is probably harmless; but my point is that once again, she has completely disregarded my instructions and done her own thing. I raised the issue of his sister, and the fact that when living with his mother he too was obese. This didn't go down very well but I had to bring it up in my defence. I do not want my child growing up addicted to cake, biscuits and chocolate in the very unhealthy way that her aunty is, and her father was... all because MIL cannot follow simple instructions.

I just feel like I cannot trust this woman at all, and am so angry with my BF that I feel like leaving him. There are other mummy's-boy issues underpinning this that have affected our relationship.

So... thank you for reading. Am I being unreasonable here?

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84teacher · 18/06/2020 12:24

@Alsohuman

Six of one and half dozen of the other. Not allowing her to hold her new grandchild lost me. Only parents to touch her for a week? Insane.
Read the post in full. When I said this it was only 20 hours after I had given birth to my first baby. My boyfriend had decided that no family could visit for a week, he didn't even tell my own mother that I had been taken to hospital in labour, yet he was on the phone to his mother a few times while I was in the birthing pool providing her with updates.

She turned up with her daughter, son in law and elderly neighbour within an hour of me getting home. I was exhausted, and angry that she had done this - also a little overwhelmed by the number of visitors when I had not slept for 2 days.

I did let family hold her when they visited 2 days later, and offered MIL a cuddle with her, but she declined. Further details in another update above

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84teacher · 18/06/2020 12:26

@Megatron

After that I offered MIL a cuddle with her but she always declines, she held her at 2 weeks old and was physically shaking - she said she didn't know what to do if she cried. When baby did cry she panicked and almost dropped her, I had to swoop in and grab her before she did.

Well I'm sorry, but if this was the case, I have no idea why you would leave your daughter with someone when you apparently had to 'swoop' in to rescue her. What changed in the time between this happening and you letting her look after DD that made you think it would be a good idea @84teacher?

Because as she is my baby's grandmother I believed she deserved a second chance. I have to meet her halfway don't I? Otherwise I am just as controlling and slightly narcissistic. Each time she has been trusted with my little girl she has blown it, it has then been months with supervised visits before I have given her another chance.
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Livpool · 18/06/2020 12:29

You all sound as bad as each other but YABU to use her for childcare if you have this many issues with her

It all sounds exhausting

Ladybyrd · 18/06/2020 12:43

My boyfriend had decided that no family could visit for a week, he didn't even tell my own mother that I had been taken to hospital in labour, yet he was on the phone to his mother a few times

He sounds pretty conniving too. I think you either play him at his own game or call it quits to be honest.

Halestorm · 18/06/2020 12:44

I think you've given her enough chances. And I think you've given him enough chances as well.
You say that your family live hundreds of miles away, and you are a teacher? Perfect. Go visit your family, and stay for a few weeks with the baby. Tell your spineless bf that you are taking space and reconsidering your relationship because it's clear there's an impasse regarding his mother. If he wants the relationship to continue, then you and he can do counselling and address the issue of his domineering mother. If he doesn't, well you can always job hunt near your family and relocate there. It may make shared custody tricky to work out but that's down the line.

Megatron · 18/06/2020 12:47

Otherwise I am just as controlling and slightly narcissistic.

Yep.

84teacher · 18/06/2020 13:22

@Sometimeswinning

How did she feed a non weaned baby a yogurt? I dont think that happened. 4 hours and the baby didnt cry? A few hours and you sent a load of snacks? I think you maybe exagerating a bit. If you feel that strongly then you dont use her as childcare. She has different ideas and probably respects your ideas as much as you do hers. It's your baby's dad you need to speak to.
She gave it to her in a calpol syringe - I always kept a bottle of calpol in the changing bag that was still in the bottom of the pram.
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TabbyMumz · 18/06/2020 13:27

I'd be interested to know exactly what happened when she took the baby for 4 hours and fed her yoghurt, because any mum in that situation would absolutely lose it with her and never let her have the baby again?! I'm afraid I'd have been calling the police. What happened in those 4 hours? How did that go? Seems a bit mental, her saying shed be 30 mins then be 4 hours!!!

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TabbyMumz · 18/06/2020 13:33

And for me I'm afraid I wouldnt been allowing her to have sole charge of my child after that. It just wouldnt happen. My inlaws only got to look after my child once, when they were older and it was an emergency, due to similar inadequacies and incidents to yours. You need to take charge here, you sound like you get bullied a bit into things. Just take charge, you are the parent.

Ilovechinese · 18/06/2020 13:42

Just put your foot down and never allow her unsupervised access. She clearly doesn't give a f about your rules so you need to stop giving a f about her demands and feelings. Its tough shit really. Shes your child and you get to decide who looks after her, what she wears and everything else

Ilovechinese · 18/06/2020 13:42

Meant eats not wears but that too

Andwoooshtheyweregone · 18/06/2020 13:48

Sorry I’m not all the way through the thread but I’d be livid if my partner said no visitors but allowed his jun. You have a mil problem but your main probs is your boyfriend. He undermines you.

Andwoooshtheyweregone · 18/06/2020 13:50

His mum*

littlejalapeno · 18/06/2020 13:53

I can’t believe the amount of s* you’re getting OP. But then I also have a narcissistic, controlling MIL so perhaps am primed for sympathy? First time we left DS alone with her he “spontaneously fell over and bumped his head” later we realised that she had been dragging him along the floor on a toy and he fell off and bumped his head because we watched it happen again. It’s not that he fell that bothered me, it’s that she lied about a bump of the head. By lying she made herself untrustworthy. But like you and for the sake of family peace and relationships we still see her and let her play with her GS. I suspect there are a lot of MIL and grandmas giving you a hard time and gaslighting you’re because they would hate to feel their entitlement to see their kids might be compromised. But there’s been some good advice here especially from those who say that it’s your kid your rules. Even if people have had kids themselves it doesn’t make them experts on your child. The only way I’ve got through dealing with MIL is by getting DP on side. It sounds like that will be more of a struggle for you but it’s a good solution. You have to make sure you’re the object of sympathy, not like you’re getting at MIL. For me there was a lot of skepticism until I was able to call attention to MILs bad behaviour objectively and not in a hostile way. Eg the time she asked me if I wanted a bit of meat from the dish. I said yes, please can I have that bit and she picked it up and ate it, laughed and said whoops. After that DP was more open and wise to her BS and disrespect of me. He had quite bad boundaries being an only son, but they have to grow up and cut the apron strings eventually. I hope you work out a way to get him inside because your MIL is sly and unreasonable. Good luck and I’m sorry you have to deal with this

84teacher · 18/06/2020 13:56

@littlejalapeno

I can’t believe the amount of s* you’re getting OP. But then I also have a narcissistic, controlling MIL so perhaps am primed for sympathy? First time we left DS alone with her he “spontaneously fell over and bumped his head” later we realised that she had been dragging him along the floor on a toy and he fell off and bumped his head because we watched it happen again. It’s not that he fell that bothered me, it’s that she lied about a bump of the head. By lying she made herself untrustworthy. But like you and for the sake of family peace and relationships we still see her and let her play with her GS. I suspect there are a lot of MIL and grandmas giving you a hard time and gaslighting you’re because they would hate to feel their entitlement to see their kids might be compromised. But there’s been some good advice here especially from those who say that it’s your kid your rules. Even if people have had kids themselves it doesn’t make them experts on your child. The only way I’ve got through dealing with MIL is by getting DP on side. It sounds like that will be more of a struggle for you but it’s a good solution. You have to make sure you’re the object of sympathy, not like you’re getting at MIL. For me there was a lot of skepticism until I was able to call attention to MILs bad behaviour objectively and not in a hostile way. Eg the time she asked me if I wanted a bit of meat from the dish. I said yes, please can I have that bit and she picked it up and ate it, laughed and said whoops. After that DP was more open and wise to her BS and disrespect of me. He had quite bad boundaries being an only son, but they have to grow up and cut the apron strings eventually. I hope you work out a way to get him inside because your MIL is sly and unreasonable. Good luck and I’m sorry you have to deal with this
I think there are some people on here that are sat at home with nothing to do - and some that have just not read my posts.

Let her see him... don't let her near him... give her a second chance... don't give her another chance... pay for childcare (though you are already paying).

I really do not know what to do for the best!

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GinDrinker00 · 18/06/2020 13:57

You both sound as bad as each other.

FoxtrotSkarloey · 18/06/2020 14:03

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starsinyourpies · 18/06/2020 14:04

Sounds like my MIL. She would also look after the kids while we're at work. We have a nanny.

PrayingandHoping · 18/06/2020 14:09

You have a MIL problem. I would never let her alone with my baby after the disappearing act and yoghurt incident. That was far too big to be forgotten in my eyes

You have a massive BF issue. He's not in your corner. He needs to cut mummy's apron strings and out you and his baby first! The fact he didn't stand up to mummy after the 4 hour disappearance yoghurt incident shows he has zero backbone

Jux · 18/06/2020 14:13

OK, I know you're already paying for childcare, but just because your partner want his mum to do it, is no reason for him not to pay his share. Maybe you could point out that if you were separated he'd have to pay a darn sight more than half those costs....

He's not a particularly good husband/partner. Nor a particularly good father.

What does he bring to the table which makes your life easier and better?

littlejalapeno · 18/06/2020 14:15

@84teacher sounds like you need a day off to yourself to rest and recharge. They’re not hard to come by in the current climate. Get Your toddler back to nursery, and in the mean time try to switch off that hyper vigilance mode. When you’re feeling rested have some open conversations with your DP, without reproach of how the situation can be improved and both your experiences and expectations. It’s going to be ok, and your kid is lucky to have such a good mum. Take care of yourself x

littlejalapeno · 18/06/2020 14:16

That should’ve said “they’re so hard to come by” sorry! Auto correct is not my mate rn

crusheddaffodils · 18/06/2020 14:28

I think the posters calling you controlling don't understand that this is what happens when your wishes are completely ignored and disrespected - you become more assertive about your boundaries.

I think all you can do is limit the unsupervised contact and continue setting your boundaries. Your DD isn't in any immediate danger and - as you acknowledge - the occasional treat isn't going to be what shapes her habits.

Do try to focus on the things that are less easy for your BF to dismiss as unreasonable (like the juice), because the more you argue about the small things, the less he will hear you when you want to talk about the big things.