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MIL ignores my instructions... again

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84teacher · 17/06/2020 21:52

My daughter is 17 months old and ever since she was born there has been friction between my boyfriend's mother and I; its as if she has no regard for any routines or instructions I give, and does as she pleases. I could handle this if my boyfriend backed me up but he never does, he thinks I am unreasonable... am I?

Many things have happened and each time I have raised the issue with my boyfriend, but it develops into an argument as he sees it all as harsh criticism of his mother, but I will summarise a few:

MIL turned up at our house with her daughter, son-in-law and elderly neighbour within an hour of us getting home from the hospital. I had been discharged 20 hours after giving birth. My boyfriend had decided that no family were allowed to visit for the first few days - I think he actually meant just MY family. I was not told they were coming, but my boyfriend had been on the phone to them while I was having a nap on the sofa and told them they could visit. I held my baby close and refused to let MIL hold her when she asked; I told her that I needed time to bond with my baby and wouldn't be letting anybody but her father hold her for the first week or so.

For the first month of our baby's life MIL kept visiting unannounced; she had been given a key for our apartment 2 weeks before I went into labour so that she could come and feed our Cats if needed. MIL refused to give the key up until I physically took it from her on the final unannounced visit. During her visits MIL would try and take baby from my breast as she was feeding, she also snook in to the bedroom while I was asleep and took baby from the bassinet to have a cuddle in the living room.

Biggie!!! When baby was 4 months old MIL and SIL came to visit when I had taken her out for a walk; when I returned MIL had come out of the apartment, down 5 flights of stairs and was running towards me screeching and waving her arms. She asked if she could take baby for a walk in the pram on her own. I obliged but informed her that baby would be due a feed soon, so she must be back in 30 minutes. When MIL wasn't back in time I tried to call her phone but it was switched off. SIL and BF were telling me not to panic, and give her more time. After an hour I got my trainers on and sprinted (very difficult with full breasts) around the block to try and find her, she was nowhere to be seen. I returned and sent BF and SIL out in their cars to find her. BF returned with her 4 HOURS AFTER SHE HAD LEFT; it turned out she had been to meet "friends" (my boyfriend's ex-gf and her sister) for coffee in the local park; MIL had also given baby a yoghurt (not even a baby yoghurt, she was solely breastfed and I hadn't started weaning her at that point).

After the incident above I refused to let MIL have any alone time with baby at all until she was 11 months old. MIL had offered to look after her when I returned to work full-time and BF was refusing to use any paid childcare. I let her look after baby for a few hours each afternoon while I caught up with housework. I knew she was struggling, she has no empathy and no patience with children. A few weeks before I was due back at work she turned on the water-works and told BF that she couldn't cope with looking after baby, but then blamed it on me - she said that I had denied her the chance to bond and get to know her granddaughter.

The covid-19 lockdown... MIL turns up unannounced a few times each week and expects to come into the house to see baby; I put my foot down straight away and agree to letting her see her in the garden (even though this is still technically against the law in the UK at that point). She cannot even remember to keep her distance and has to be told numerous times to back off; so I had to be the bad-guy again and insist that she only sees her through the window. We get the water-works again, BF and I don't speak for days because of the argument we had.

The latest... I am falling behind on work at home and we can now form bubbles in the UK, so we agreed that MIL can look after our daughter 2 afternoons each week. As my daughter is now 17 months old she is much more independent, and is able to tell you what she wants (and does not want). This afternoon I dropped her off with a bag of toys, a healthy snack, water cup etc. I gave MIL instructions that she should have her snack at around 3pm, to keep offering her water throughout the afternoon, ensure she is not in the sun for too long - all common-sense stuff really. More background: SIL is VERY obese (has diabetes and asthma because of her weight), MIL is a feeder; for the duration of our relationship I have been amazed at how my MIL instantly offers my BF (38 yo) biscuits, sweets and chocolates as soon as she sees him, and like a little child he never says no and doesn't actually know when to stop eating them. So... I also very clearly told her: NO CHOCOLATE OR BISCUITS! Baby has snacks in the bag, please only offer her them. BF collects baby on his way home from work and returns an hour later than usual; another really annoying trait MIL has is fault-picking, first it was the dreaded wind, then she thought baby had ADHD (I'm a teacher... don't even try this one on me when you have no educational experience Carol!), she is the sort of person who has to play doctor and find something wrong with baby - and it usually stems from something she thinks I am doing wrong. So when BF returns baby is overtired and hungry... - of course she is! If you had come straight home she could've had the dinner that has been ready for over 30 minutes!!! Baby's bib and T-Shirt are covered in CHOCOLATE, her snacks are still in the bag untouched and her sippy-cup smells of cordial. I try to be calm and tell BF that I left his mother with instructions and repeat them to him. He just walks away, mutters something under his breath and then ignores me until baby has gone to bed.

We just had yet another argument. Yes, I understand that a little chocolate once in a while, and a little cordial is probably harmless; but my point is that once again, she has completely disregarded my instructions and done her own thing. I raised the issue of his sister, and the fact that when living with his mother he too was obese. This didn't go down very well but I had to bring it up in my defence. I do not want my child growing up addicted to cake, biscuits and chocolate in the very unhealthy way that her aunty is, and her father was... all because MIL cannot follow simple instructions.

I just feel like I cannot trust this woman at all, and am so angry with my BF that I feel like leaving him. There are other mummy's-boy issues underpinning this that have affected our relationship.

So... thank you for reading. Am I being unreasonable here?

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TiddlestheCat · 18/06/2020 08:20

I think that you were unreasonable not to let her hold the baby during those first few days which then helped set the tone for your relationship. And a bit of chocolate and cordial won't do any harm. It's unreasonable for you to expect her to follow all the rules that you dictate. However, her disappearing for four hours and feeding yogurt etc, whilst meeting ex gf is beyond the pail. And her blaming the lack of bonding for her being unable to cope with her own grandchild is lousy. I understand why you wouldn't trust her. I think that you need to start looking at paid childcare.

ChrisPrattsFace · 18/06/2020 08:21

She’s showing your child it’s ok to disrespect you.
She showing you that’s it’s ok to disrespect you because you keep allowing it.
Find child care, draw a line and tell her it’s because she doesn’t listen to youZ

Nishky · 18/06/2020 08:26

Never ceases to amaze me how these MILs are all totally batshit, massively overstep boundaries, don’t seem to have the best interest or safety of the baby at heart and yet are a perfectly sound choice when it comes to free childcare.

I think this post nails it......

Elmo230885 · 18/06/2020 08:29

To be honest you both sound impossible.

You can't expect anyone to take care of your LO exactly how you do. There has to be some give and take. Your MIL is likely going so far the other way as you are being strict and trying to micro manage her.

That said, she has gone way too far. I wouldn't have been able to get past her taking an EBF baby for 4 hours! She's never going to listen to you so you need to stop having her as free childcare.

You need serious words with your partner and start paying for childcare.

Iwonder08 · 18/06/2020 08:31

If you want your routine enforced don't ask her for free childcare. Based on her disappearing with 5mo ebf baby I wouldn't let her touch the child ever again, not sure why would you consider her for childcare anyway

DurhamDurham · 18/06/2020 08:36

It almost seems like you keep letting her look after your daughter so she can fail again. It's a power struggle between the pair of you, you sound quite similar.

If anyone had taken my baby away for over four hours without my permission that would have been it, no more chances. But from reading your posts I can imaging that in a month of two you'll hand your daughter over and your mil will do something to annoy you. It'll never end as you both seem to thrive on the drama of it all.

Muminho · 18/06/2020 08:38

I don't think you sound impossible, you sound sensible and like you've given her many chances.

The taking the baby to meet your BF's ex for 4 hours is insane. I couldn't have got past that. Incredibly unreasonable behaviour by your MIL.

You need to put your foot down and pay for childcare. Otherwise this will just continue.

84teacher · 18/06/2020 08:41

I wish everybody posting about "free childcare" would actually read my posts. I will make it clear: I am not using her as free childcare, my daughter is put in a nursery while I am at work and it costs me roughly £1500 a month. MIL has been begging to have my daughter alone and although I feel I can't trust her, I understand that I have to meet in the middle and learn to trust her. Yesterday she had my daughter for the afternoon, yes it was while I worked but you show my another mother who doesn't ask family to look after their kids on the odd afternoon.
My family live on the other side of the country, so I don't have anybody else close-by who is family to help me out.

So again... I do pay for childcare, £1500 a month.

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fonxey · 18/06/2020 08:49

I would chuck the boyfriend and the MIL. Your BF obviously isn't on board with you in terms of childcare (which sounds reasonable) which is important. You can't have one parent going one way and the other parent going the other way (or just doing what mummy says).

Your MIL skills respect your choices even if they aren't her own preference. However the fact your BF is more on her side messages it harder.

This isn't a normal sort of relationship. My OH is on my side. If he disagrees with how i would like to do things we talk about it but so far 99% we agree. It's a partnership.

However despite knowing what your mil is like you let her look after your child. If you're going to do that your going to have to accept she is what she is as shan't seem likely to change.

You owe nothing to this woman.

Roselilly36 · 18/06/2020 08:50

Pay for childcare is the only option, of course your MIL should follow your rules, however daft she thinks they are, it’s your baby.

mummyh2016 · 18/06/2020 08:51

What did your boyfriend say when she took the baby for 4 hours and wasn't contactable?

Butchyrestingface · 18/06/2020 08:52

Why? Why doesn't your partner pay his share?
Because he wanted his mother to look after our daughter.

Never mind the MiL. I would lose the boyfriend.

Roselilly36 · 18/06/2020 08:53

X post, sorry OP. Stop the alone time & see MIL with the baby, until trust can be built. Have you sat down with MIL & explained how overruled you feel.

84teacher · 18/06/2020 08:54

@mummyh2016

What did your boyfriend say when she took the baby for 4 hours and wasn't contactable?
Nothing, he said nothing, just shut off and walked away from the conversation.

The excuse given was that she had accidentally put her phone on do not disturb; I have heard her and SIL joke about putting the phone on do not disturb when another family member they're not fond of is trying to get hold of them, so I know it wasn't an accident.

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Turtletotem · 18/06/2020 08:55

Perhaps you and the baby would be better relocating nearer your family away from them. Of course they'd all still have access through her dad but it would be limited! Plan ahead it's not going to change. Teachers are needed everywhere

Onekidnoclue · 18/06/2020 08:55

Hi OP. I’m a mother who doesn’t ever ask family to look after their child for the odd afternoon. We do exist!!!

Seriously though perhaps think about what you want. What does good look like for you? I can’t really understand what you’re after with this post. You don’t seem to want to listen to people who think your MIL has a point and you don’t seem to be interested in people saying she’s a nightmare tell her to piss off!
I don’t think there is a good solution. You’re after a trustworthy MIL who will look after dd according to your requirements. I think you need to let go of that idea.
Do you want back up from the boyfriend? Might be more achievable... or do you want people to tell you that you’re right, she’s awful so you feel better when she inevitably tries to guilt you into doing things her way?
Perhaps start with a realistic goal and take little steps towards it.

Porcupineinwaiting · 18/06/2020 08:56

Sorry, she disappeared with your baby for 4 ho urs? 4 hours! And still she ignores every single thing you say to her.

Find a childminder. Or a nursery.

WotnoPasta · 18/06/2020 08:56

It is a power struggle. Her giving things she shouldn’t is trying to assert power over you as a parent.
My DD has allergies, the absolute compulsion of my MIL to give her things she couldn’t because it was ‘just the once.’ It was to try and prove me wrong and that I was making things up (DD would have been very unwell if she had).
Don’t use her. If she asks her to have alone just say no. Don’t engage in a conversation about it. That’s your partners issue. Not your problem.

LockdownLoppy · 18/06/2020 08:57

She sounds like a nightmare - I don't understand how you could leave you child with her, I wouldn't have been able to leave my child in the care of someone I didn't trust.
Pay for childcare.

letmethinkaboutitfornow · 18/06/2020 08:59

TLTR - you lost me at the Biggie.

YABU and you know that. How on Earth can you jeopardise your child like that. Unbelievable! 😱
You need to sort out your partner and his family.

Aneley · 18/06/2020 08:59

YANBU. Your BF is massively stepping over the line ever since you came home from the hospital. Your family not allowed but his mum, sister and a NEIGHBOUR (!?!?!) allowed only hours after you arrived home?? Also, if my MIL took away our 4mo and didn't come home for 4h and didn't pick up her phone - that would be the last time she had time with the baby unsupervised.

Pugsrus · 18/06/2020 09:00

Dump the dp .hes not backing u up
Don’t use her for childcare

Nanny0gg · 18/06/2020 09:03

Yes, you pay for childcare but after all that's happened you still let her mind your baby.

That's down to you.

Cocobean30 · 18/06/2020 09:04

stop leaving your child with her and seriously reconsider being with your man child partner

Lsquiggles · 18/06/2020 09:06

She sounds very disrespectful but so does your boyfriend, the way he rolls his eyes and mutters things under his breath gives me the impression they've had conversations that your parenting is too over the top and he doesn't mind her going against your wishes. I'd be absolutely furious at a lot of the examples you've given and wouldn't let my child be alone with her for any reason, no matter how busy I was.