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TabbyMumz You are such a martyr. Fair play to you."
You seem to not know the true meaning of the word Martyr either. You have made up rules and expect people to follow your lead. You are so so wrong.
"Meanwhile in the real world people who are, genuinely, in need of daily medical care are provided with it, from medically trained staff - my own parents included."
What are you saying here? That other people who dont have medical professions visiting them,,, dont need care? You do realise thats slightly odd. Lots of elderly people need checking on, and care, without medical professionals visiting them. You do know that's a possibility, dont you?
"Your scenario bears no resemblance to OP’s. If her parents needed to be cared for she would either make provision, locally, moved in with them or driven from England to Wales, daily, way before 3 months to provide the care they need."
You dont know anything about my scenario, because the most I have told you is that I've travelled a few times to visit mine and that they dont live within 5 miles. All you know about the ops scenario is that one of her parents is in cancer remission and the other has depression. She hasnt told you anymore because it's none of your business, but she has said there is more to it than that. So suffice to say, she fits in the scenario of providing care.
"t seems you can not distinguish between “care” and “compassion”."
It's you that cant distinguish it, I'already explained it.
"My neighbour cares, daily, for her elderly father. He lives within 5 miles. He doesn’t actually need to be cared for. He wants company - as do MOST elderly people, living on their own. Some people think travelling 10 miles, every day, to pick up a newspaper for their parent constitutes “care”."
Well, not me! I know what care means. And it's not providing a paper.
"The fact remains. You are flouting the “rules”. "
Why do you think that? I've been exactly within the rules, thankyou. As I've said, you dont know my scenario.
"Don’t encourage others to flout the rules too."
I'm not, she would be within the rules, as would be travelling for care reasons.
"If we all took your stance and travelled where we want, whenever we want, for spurious reasons we would probably still be locked down now. Thankfully the R rate is dropping drastically. Thanks to the people who travelled only for essential reasons."
I havent travelled where I want for spurious reasons. Neither has the op.
"OP’s parents are grieving for family contact. That is understandable. Mine are too - as are MOST other elderly people, single parents struggling on their own, toddlers who cannot understand their “new world”, teenagers are suffering. They need their friends. School children have had their world turned upside down and parents like me who are struggling with not seeing their grandchildren, struggling with teenage angst, struggling with hearing elderly, ill parents who cannot make sense of their situation and needing to make sure they are ok."
The ops parents are I'll. She has told you that.
"Your constant ramblings of the 5 mile rule doesn’t exist if you have an elderly relative may or may not be relevant. It depends on how much care your relative actually needs - or not."
No it's your understanding of the 5 mile rule that doesnt exist. Please get it into your head that right from the start, people have been able to travel over 5 miles to provide care or for safeguarding the vulnerable or elderly. Why do you not believe that? How many people on here do you need to tell you? Do you understand about safeguarding at all?
"This thread is about grandparents needing to see their family. It is not about someone needing to care for her parent. Why do you keep posting about someone needing care?
Because if youd read the thread properly, youd pick up on the fact that the op has talked about their health and said she us worried about their health, enough that she needs to check on them. Several others on this thread have agreed that she comes under the category of care and safeguarding.
"OP hasn’t said she needs to travel miles to provide care for her parents. She has simply said her parents are struggling because they haven’t had contact with their family. "
No. Wrong again. She went on to say that they have health issues that are complex, significant enough for her to want to check on them and not leave it any longer. Not just because she misses them it they miss her. You are so cruel and have no understanding. She should absolutely visit them to check on them.
"Mark Drakeford has made provision for “compassionate visits” today."
Yes he has and he allowed care visits for the vulnerable 12 weeks ago.
"The floodgates have been opened. From Monday everyone will be rushing to see their vulnerable relatives. It makes a mockery of “Stay Home” “Stay Local” “Stay within 5 Miles”."
Yes it does, but life goes on you know. I think you cant let go of the 5 mile rule.