Why are ASDA normalising paedophilia and Child Abuse?

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Is it OK for ASDA to send parents emails linking to an organisation that normalises paedophilia with red flag phrases such as "love has no age", and recommending books for children that contain explicit descriptions of child sex abuse? Why are they doing this? Are ASDA experts in home schooling and safeguarding? More details in this excellent thread by Safe Schools Alliance: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1272638132589035520

This reminds me of London Fire Brigade going into school to deliver LGBT workshops mobile.twitter.com/Abby_Crawford_/status/1141682236162490368

Don't know if they still do??

Supermarkets sell food
Firefighters do amazing rescue work

Why the need to push past parents and teachers and get access to young minds, why do they think they are better placed to teach children anything?

Yeah - they are waaaay beyond their remit.

Why the need to push past parents and teachers and get access to young minds, why do they think they are better placed to teach children anything?

Why indeed.

Why use a supermarket to get around normal safeguarding protocols? Is it because supermarkets are trusted by mothers?

Why use the fire service to promote LGBT issues? Is that because they are trusted and don't have educational safeguarding protocols?

Why indeed.

Oh it's another trans and LGB hate thread, of course it is.

Oh it's another person conflating concerns about dubious adult agendas around sexualising children with homophobia, of course it is.

The same happens on all these child safeguarding threads, interestingly.

No reply from Roger the Dodger at ASDA. Not even a bot.

@JemimaShore

In the light of this, it is now sadly necessary for all parents now to check up on the material being used for RSE/PHSE lessons in their children's schools.

Make sure you do this.

We have a say in what our children are being taught in school.

We dont. These lessons are legally compulsory. We might be abusing our kids and this is covered these lessons. But oh irony.

Seriously, mummy ? I heard they were making them compulsory for older teens, but I didn't realise it had happened for primary as well

I'm not sure how anything in that pack would help a child being abused - more likely make then think it's normal - "love is love' after all

JemimaShore

For the sake of accuracy ... those photos you posted , I looked at the packs and they don’t appear to be in them . Just checking this is correct ? They exist and have been badly used but I beleive by other organisations

The "love has no age limit" photo was taken from the Asda primary pack yesterday - the dice I think is from a different pack - but intended for use in our schools, recommended for 13yr olds + .

And a photo of a book on the "reading list" - which was on the list for Asda primary pack yesterday.

@Thisisworsethananticpated

JemimaShore

For the sake of accuracy ... those photos you posted , I looked at the packs and they don’t appear to be in them . Just checking this is correct ? They exist and have been badly used but I beleive by other organisations

The phrase and the book list was removed from the packs downloadable from the site around lunch yesterday.

If you received the email I believe they link to the original PDFs.

Jemima
Yes, that is my understanding. Maybe I am incorrect....

Whataloadofshite You are both homophobic and transphobic to accuse MN posters of hate towards trans and LGB because they object to paedophilia.

Actually, I'm thinking in general, why are outside organisations allowed to provide very specific materials that are not included in the national curriculum? It feels like such a back door method. I mean, if I wanted to go and promote, let's say, medicines made of plants, which I happened to have a huge market share in, could I just make a glossy information pack and tout it round schools as a biology lesson? If you pour enough money into "information" materials, will they just teach any old thing in schools?

@Tanith

Whataloadofshite You are both homophobic and transphobic to accuse MN posters of hate towards trans and LGB because they object to paedophilia.

Tactics, just tactics to derail and shut people down. How predictable.

Have any of the newspapers picked this up? I would have thought it was in the public interest to get this story out there.

So if the title of the thread IS TRUE and they are indeed promoting paedophilia - rather than creating a diversity pack within mentions trans people, hence the dog whistle from the lobby grp on Twitter - why isn’t it actual news?
BBC, Sky, ITV - they’re all fine with ASDA ‘indoctrinating’ and ‘grooming’ the nations children via the cunning use of parent resources?

How is an objection to a book that describes a 6 year old engaging in oral sex anything to do with trans?
How is objection to the idea that love has no age anything to do with trans?

People have been mentioning PIE for a reason.

No one asked for the packs. ASDA is there to sell food and clothes. There is an obsession with ‘educating’ other people’s kids about relationships/heavy on the ‘gender’.

If they were so bothered about our kids keeping occupied during lockdown, why didn’t they send our packs with crosswords, competitions and craft sheets?

If you pour enough money into "information" materials, will they just teach any old thing in schools?

I genuinely believe it was austerity that opened the door to all this. Schools can barely afford to pay the teaching staff, teaching assistants are being laid off and there is absolutely nothing in the budget for anything beyond the absolute basics fo complete the curriculum. If a shiny looking non profit or charity shows up making all the right noises and offering a little something extra that wasn’t in the school budget (a anti bullying talk or a book reading by a diversity check box author, for example) it just gets waved through.

Schools think charities are reputable and following the law, especially if the materials come with some kind of government or council equalities office stamp. Noone checks because everybody assumes the checks have already been done by someone else.

It’s the same with stuff like school counsellors - they come funded by charities and with the shrinking of youth provision and the ridiculous waits for CAMHS, schools are grateful for every bit of help they can get. It’s only later that you realise that the association that accredits your school counsellor’s professional qualification has published a guide to gender and sexual relationships that randomly accuses northern women of being aggressive, written by a polyamorous BDSM practioner who ridicules ‘normal sex’ in public lectures and advocates for more diverse sexual relationships (who tried to get the Women’s Stage at London Pride rebranded to something without the word ‘woman’) and whose primary sexual partner was a key figure in opening the Hampstead women’s bathing pond to anyone who says they are a woman.

www.place2be.org.uk/page/bacp/

www.bacp.co.uk/media/5877/bacp-gender-sexual-relationship-diversity-gpacp001-april19.pdf

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/edwardlord.org/2017/08/17/pride-in-london-and-my-queer-journey-a-personal-perspective-and-response-to-londonlgbtpride/amp/

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/23/trans-women-given-formal-access-to-hampstead-heath-pond

m.youtube.com/watch?v=-cmXvKVbdwE

I don’t think academies are helpful either - was safer when all schools had the beady eye of the LEA on them.

why isn’t it actual news?

With the wanky rubber porno man at the NSPCC it took about a week to go from Mumsnet discussion to tabloids.
I think it was around a fortnight for the NUS officer who had posted cartoon images of boys being raped and photos of their genitalia online, but then the NUS employed a very fancy legal firm, Carter Ruck.

I expect we’ll see something by Sunday, depends on how deep the rabbit hole goes once an actual journalist starts looking into it.

So if the title of the thread IS TRUE and they are indeed promoting paedophilia - rather than creating a diversity pack within mentions trans people, hence the dog whistle from the lobby grp on Twitter - why isn’t it actual news?

I have been watching these stories for a while. Any hint of 'diversity' and 'trans' automatically means it will not be covered in any news bulletin. Unless there is someone famous with no knowledge who can read out a script to declare it anti-trans.

Even a conviction leading to 22 years imprisonment only hits the local news on the BBC, and that will only cover the bare minimum and not mention the political parties that person was embedded in.

Yes remember the days when sex scandals were about affairs between adults. They were all over the papers. Even a vague hint of sex could damage a public figure. Is anyone else old enough to remember Norman Lamont accidentally renting out a flat to a woman who turned out to be a brothel keeper - Miss Whiplash? Headline news.

These days a political figure appoints their father as their electoral agent despite father being charged with the rape and torture of a 10 year old child (later sentenced to 22 years). Newspapers say nothing. LibDems welcome them with open arms. They are the most oppressed on earth. Nothing to see here

If it's not on the 6 O Clock news it can't be true trope is so depressing.

If you think of all the scandals that took years to come out because various institutions ignored them or covered them up, it shows a massive degree of ignorance and a failure of safeguarding right there because of the assumption that the media has checked out the issue and somehow decided there is nothing to write up. There are numerous examples where the media has been shown to be cowardly, compromised or otherwise failed in its remit.

If you want to talk about child abuse hidden by institutional failings in the media you don't have to look further than the BBC.

And what's worse about the most high profile BBC case is that 'everyone knew'. They were by no means the only organisation which had a problem internally. And even those other media organisations failed to cover the story even when they were made aware of it numerous times by many unconnected sources because of men with money and nasty solicitors.

I’ve just recently finished a research project that focussed on gender neutral pedagogy and compared our education system to the Swedish system. The theory being that the removal of the entrenchment of sex stereotypes in our classrooms will be protection for ALL children.
The amount of these completely inadequate, unprofessional, uneducated groups that are currently being paid to enter our schools (and workplaces) and held up as ‘experts’ is terrifying.
Not only do the lack the historical knowledge to critically evaluate needs...many are actively breaking down protections in order to exploit our children.

Effectively, many of these organizations are grooming our children and their teachers with the stamp of approval of wider society and the education department.