To be following the guidance still?

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everyone I have spoken to appears to be breaching the rules in some way, some apologetically, some not, some big, some small, from people who have carried on seeing partners all the way through this to friends presently at their holiday home. Am I the dickhead here for doing what I’m told? two of my household are sheilding and we’ve been invited to two parties this weekend.

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I'm not following the rules, not taking the piss, but doing what I want that seems reasonable. Going round to friends houses, seeing close family, back to school etc

Everyone I know locally is broadly doing similar, and has been for weeks.

The good thing is that there have been zero new cases in wandsworth (300k+ people) the last week - so seems like it's not unreasonable

Sticking to the rules too. My mum works on a COVID Ward so is risky and my dad is diabetic so can't see him either. It's shit

It's been 2 weeks since kids went back to school on 1st June. There hadn't been a huge surge of covid. The Government should Lower it from 2m to 1m, and get all kids back to school.

"BobbinThreadbare123

We've followed the rules the whole time, still doing it. Our neighbours haven't. Not sure I can bring myself to speak to them ever again, tbh."

Yes, i feel like this about some friends and neighbours who have been selfish covidiots and am starting to despise them putting society at risk so they have a little get together.

If people are bored of lockdown why would you break the rules ita only going to lead to another lockdown in about october which means.... lockdown over christmas
Stick the flipping rules your kids fo not need to see there grandparents they want to see them
And what if one of your kids is a carrier and gives it to their grandparent they die and never see them again
Seriously dont understand people taking risks

If people are bored of lockdown why would you break the rules ita only going to lead to another lockdown in about october which means.... lockdown over christmas

The government can't afford another lockdown, they can't afford this one either.

It has been reported (could be bullshit, who knows), that Chris Whitty and Co. are not happy with the relaxations that Johnson is putting in place now.

The bottom line is, he has no choice, the country is financially screwed, along with a tonne of businesses. So yes, the choice for him is now economy over health and he has to go with the economy, it's the obvious choice.

We are breaking rules for our son. He's too young to social distance and desperately needed to interact with other children, so we are seeing my sister and her son once a week. In our county there are very few cases and a dr friend said they are predominantly in hospitals and care homes, so much so that FiL (a doctor) said the UK vaccine trials are unlikely to be effective as the people wont have anyone to catch it from.

I think some people have totally lost a sense of proportion too. I was on a thread yesterday where someone indignantly said "just because people are elderly doesnt make it ok if they die".

Wtf. old people are gonna die.covid or no. Mortality is kinda the human condition!!

Mortality is kinda the human condition!!

Agree with that. Can at least guarantee one thing in life, it will end.

Most of the elderly people I know are happy to take the risk. My grandfather is 78 and at first he was shielding but as time has gone on he's decided that he'd rather take the chance with the virus if it means he can see his family. The fact is, most people his age have probably got less than 10 years left anyway whether we want to admit it or not and they might not want to spend that precious time isolated from everyone they love.

Risk assessing and taking risks it ridiculous I am a child she is a o ly she is struggling but we are sticking to the rules I dont want a bloodly badge I dotn want to die or her to die from it and I also dont want to spread it.
I am astounded by how selfish people are.
Shame on you all
This is a global pandemic and you cant even wait a few months before you see other family and friends.
Crazy crazy world we live in

I actually am following the rules now. I'd been visiting my sister in her garden all along, so I wasn't following the rules then. Was I increasing anyone's risk by doing that? No. I touched nothing, I stood one end of the garden and she stood in her doorway. The Mumsnet curtain-twitchers were probably reporting me to the Police, but they were the mindless ones, not me. That is what people mean by risk assessment - not some random willy-nilly wandering around boaking up germs over everything to make other people die.

We're sticking to the rules here. Suddenly ditching every precaution seems the most likely way to end up back in lockdown.

@DominaShantotto

Yep you're the only person in the whole wide world - have a cookie. Congratulations you stuck to some rules.

You're wanting a judge and a bash at other people. DO what's best for YOU - if it's seriously the best thing - that's it's own reward. If it's unquestioning slavish adherence to scientifically dubious rules that even the rule-makers aren't sticking to (eye tests, second homes, quick shag etc) and you're needing validation for questioning them... that's its own answer.

Domina you are so right here. It’s it’s own reward thank you for the perspective.

I don’t actually mind if people break lockdown in private but for god sake please keep your distance from others out and about. So many groups, mainly but not exclusively of teens, seem to have appeared now and they have no sense of giving space when passing others. I’m in the vulnerable category, the ones with no real help in terms of delivery slots etc and have to go about their normal business but must adhere strictly to the distancing rules. This wasn’t too bad at the start of lockdown but now people think they have seen their mates so they can get close to everyone but that’s making it very hard to adhere to this. Where I live the paths are plenty wide enough for two people to pass with a gap, but only if a group goes single file to pass. If they stay in a gaggle 4 abreast then I have no chance.

We are following the rules to the letter - we stay very alert, to be honest more alert than we probably need to be, but better safe than sorry.

It's not just you OP. We're sticking to the rules here and none of us are high risk.
We haven't seen either of our parents since March except to drop food off at the door a couple of times. Even if we were willing to break the rules they're not willing take the risk, so we won't be seeing them any time soon either. DD4 has also had to play in the back garden alone whilst hearing every other child in the cul de sac playing together in the street every day.
I don't know if we're the idiots for following the rules so rigidly, or they're the ones for breaking them, but it's all a bit shit.

You are right to keep yourselves safe until you are told otherwise, which looks to be a matter of weeks now.

Meeting friends as per guidance, it is difficult for the children (and us) to keep remembering the 2m - but we are all doing our best.

We have been invited to parties as well, we are obviously not going! It is far too soon. We are going out for days, seeing friends and family in small groups as stipulated and we are very happy with that. Weather is scuppering some plans, but we are fine with it! This is a walk in the park compared to the lockdown, and I welcome the changes, and looking forward to the new restrictions easing on the 4th.