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To wonder what sort of women are married to those blokes doing Nazi salutes at the cenotaph today?

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ChavvySexPond · 13/06/2020 16:09

Any Mumsnet husbands off throwing bottles at police horses today?

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PotholeParadise · 13/06/2020 19:12

randomchaps

Probably the beer, I suspect most of them are football hooligans using this as an excuse to have a fight.

Not five minutes ago, I read a newspaper report which said they're from the Democratic Football Lads Alliance, so I think you're right.

According to google, they're an offshoot of the Football Lads Alliance and sites variously describe them as a organised football hooligan groups or a far-right groups.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 13/06/2020 19:22

Definitely hasn't been here, been seeing news reports with despair and thinks they're absolute dregs just like I do.

NookIsACrook · 13/06/2020 19:33

I think the previous posters ordinary bloke has been taken the wrong way. They'd even put "ordinary" in quotes.

There's a lot of blokes like this in the area I live. Seeing that clip above looks like a pubs when a derby footie is on and they start arguing with I

They're the "ordinary" bloke in that they are active parts of community and who large parts of society interact with day to day without knowing their views are often called "top blokes" by those who don't see this side to them. They are "ordinary" in that they are men that build your roads, men that deliver your shopping, men that fix your electrics and plumbing, men that raise money for charity, men that have been doing the shopping for shielding people.

The women and men in their lives are people you'd interact with day to day and also perfectly capable of being a productive part of society while holding shitty views.

They are ordinary in that sense which is what I think the pp meant. They weren't saying racism is ordinary, or at least I didn't read it way.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 13/06/2020 19:36

This is a genuine question - there seems to be a widespread belief on this thread that women are less likely to hold far-right beliefs than men, is there any statistical evidence for this? I would guess that men are far more likely to perpetuate racially motivated violence, just as they are more likely to commit all violent crimes, but are they more likely to hold racist views? I had a quick look and found this article -www.jstor.org/stable/1519836?seq=1 - which suggests there isn't a big difference between white men and women in how likely they are to be racist, but I don't know if this matches other research or not.

NookIsACrook · 13/06/2020 19:36

Also, I'm not married to one of these men and the couple of male family members who I've heard spout this shit we are no contact with and have been for years.

LightenUpSummer · 13/06/2020 19:42

I’ve looked into psephology a little bit and I seem to remember women are slightly more likely to bits labour than men, but don’t quite be as I can’t remember where I read it.

LightenUpSummer · 13/06/2020 19:43

Vote labour!

(I’m correcting a typo, not issuing an instruction)

FloggingMoll · 13/06/2020 19:45

I've had a couple of glasses of wine but the video I just saw on Twitter of these fuckers spitting on women having a picnic in Hyde Park has reduced me to tears.

I want to say what the fuck is happening to this country? But it's always been like this, under the surface. I was just too white to notice it.Sad

LightenUpSummer · 13/06/2020 19:45

Btw I’m not equating not voting labour with being racist! Just responding to the women/right wing point

mrsBtheparker · 13/06/2020 19:54

Much the same as those married to the vandals pulling down statues last week maybe. Is your view that only one type is allowed? It's not an approved view on here but the events of last weekend have pushed so many people to the right.

CantSayJack · 13/06/2020 19:55

One of them has spoken!

twitter.com/ActivistKelly/status/1271795589727092737?s=20

That’s not locozade he’s drinking.... racist and thick, who’d thought it? 🤔

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 13/06/2020 19:58

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ShebaShimmyShake · 13/06/2020 19:59

@Smilethoyourheartisbreaking

I thought Hitler killed himself? Do they have a Peter and Jabe history book I didnt get round to reading?
THAT'S WHAT THE FORRENERS WANT YOU TO THINK
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Seelow · 13/06/2020 20:03

Most of these won’t be married. They will probably have been married at some point but can’t see that lasting long. They are social misfits. They will hate everything and everyone other than each other and their football teams.

FloggingMoll · 13/06/2020 20:04

@mrsBtheparker I didn't see anyone in Bristol on women having a picnic. Throwing Nazi salutes or urinating on memorials to fallen police officers.

Don't worry everyone! The racist has outed themselves.

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CantSayJack · 13/06/2020 20:05

@FloggingMoll

I've had a couple of glasses of wine but the video I just saw on Twitter of these fuckers spitting on women having a picnic in Hyde Park has reduced me to tears.

I want to say what the fuck is happening to this country? But it's always been like this, under the surface. I was just too white to notice it.Sad

Truly shocking, those who were having a picnic were just minding their own business when they were attacked.

A shit shower of a protest all egged on by their leader Tommeh “Stephen Yaxley-Lennon” Robinson who was happy to take donations then hid behind the sofa at home like the little racist weasel he is. The EDL claim they aren’t racist, just hated Moozlims yet now have turned on Black Lives Matter whilst making nazi salutes at the cenotaph.

Absolutely thick as mince, uneducated, pieces of shit.

MarshaBradyo · 13/06/2020 20:08

I don’t really care who they are married to but I feel even more undone by wth is going on atm.

What are they doing, bunch of thugs unbelievable

Tellmetruth4 · 13/06/2020 20:09

Lol just saw that video. DH and I are pissing ourselves imagining Churchill wandering around the streets of Berlin with an AK47 looking for Hitler before blowing his head off.

Lucozade my left foot! At least if he’s going to defend a statue nobody is actually attacking, he should know Hitler killed himself as the Russian army approached.

ChewChewIsMySpiritAnimal · 13/06/2020 20:11

Why are you asking about their wives?

skodadoda · 13/06/2020 20:15

GinWithRosie you’re absolutely right, the crowds in London were just the same; middle aged, and older men flabby and foul-mouthed. Disgusting specimens but I’m afraid some women find the macho attitude attractive 🤮

SomethingOnce · 13/06/2020 20:20

The sort of women who walk on eggshells.

Flymetothetoon · 13/06/2020 20:22

Probably the sort who broke lockdown to get their eyebrow tattoos/nails done/roots done - basically airhead imbeciles. Perfect mate to their pin head husbands.

Mrskeats · 13/06/2020 20:23

I think the op is pondering whether these men have wives and children.
I don't think she is in any way suggesting that they are responsible for them.
It is interesting that the vast majority seem to be men. I think it's because a lot of men who would have traditionally worked in factories, docks etc feel disenfranchised.
They therefore cling onto these outdated views of how the world should be. Some only have being white as an advantage in their eyes. They see immigrants as the enemy as well as women I believe.

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