To feel like we are just existing now

[Ghostlyglow]

In a miserable, joyless world of queues and masks. A couple of friends have lost their jobs this week. Where are we going with this?When will it end?

This is the easy part. The tough part will be the fall out from a trashed economy, millions suddenly unemployed and idle (end of furlough), whole industries decimated and then combined with the Brexit fall out.

Enjoy the calm before the storm.

We all have to wait until there’s a vaccine is ridiculous, the country will have pulled itself apart by then.
^This.
I am absolutely pig sick of hearing this about this bloody vaccine. It's not that easy to find a safe and effective vaccine and roll out the vaccination programme quickly enough.
I am in another country and we were told from the beginning of the pandemic things like... no visiting old people's homes until there is a vaccine; no freedom of movement to travel until there is a vaccine; wearing of masks compulsory everywhere until there is a vaccine; no going to restaurants until there is a vaccine.
Absolute bullshit. We are now quite far along in our easing of lockdown and guess what? All of the above things are now permitted (travel to 31 countries permitted, not long-haul yet or places like the UK or Sweden).
Is there a bloody vaccine? No there isn't.

There is no way the Uk government will wait for a vaccine before they start opening up. They can't and they won't.
The problem though is that their approach to lockdown and now to leaving lockdown has been totally and utterly chaotic.
It's no wonder people are feeling awful as there is no plan.
Here, we were told lockdown measures to be eased and reviewed every 3 weeks so we had an idea pretty far in advance of what the plan was.

Despite this, I have experienced the feelings of just existing too and it is a very unpleasant feeling to have. Some days are better than others. I'm sorry for anyone feeling the same way and I'm not going to suggest anything like "learn a language or a new craft" because on the bad days even that doesn't help.

I work for a household name bank and have been WFH. They won't be looking at getting us back until October, and my boss has heavily hinted I will be WFH until 2021.

@MadameMarie

This is the easy part. The tough part will be the fall out from a trashed economy, millions suddenly unemployed and idle (end of furlough), whole industries decimated and then combined with the Brexit fall out.

Enjoy the calm before the storm.

Just be aware that writing stuff like that on a thread that’s already discussed suicide as an option might just push someone to make a decision to go ahead.

SPOT ON
Nihiloxica Fri 12-Jun-20 08:38:11
The economy shrunk 20% in April.
Yes, and we knew going into this that if it shrank by 6.4% or more that MORE PEOPLE WOULD DIE FROM THE EFFECTS OF LOCDOWN than from Covid-19. Only one thing matters now, and is not living a good life. It is avoiding a virus that more than half the people who get it don't even realise.

i seriously need a mum vacation ,the kids are driving me up the wall and without work to break it up i am slowly losing the plot.

I'm seeing family now and I don't care who judges me for it.

Yes, and we knew going into this that if it shrank by 6.4% or more that more people would die from the effects of lockdown than from Covid-19.

Is that 6.4% across the whole year Nil? A big dip but it should go up again.

April is 20% but we’d better see improvement next. As on R4 by September it needs to be up and running.

We ought to have locked down earlier and stricter, stopped the flights coming in except to repatriate people who live here. If we'd done that, we'd be out of it now. Instead a half arsed job was done, people are now ignoring lots of the lockdown rules and the R still isn't low enough.

It’s madness just looking at Covid deaths. The media have a lot to answer for, for scaring the shit out of people. I know parents that locked their children away for 12 weeks, even though the family were young and not shieding, they thought if they went outside they would die. Society breaking down will be 100 times worse that the virus.

I do share concern on the economy too. Mass redundancies are going to be a huge strain.

@paap1975

I feel so sorry for people in the UK. We're easing restrictions on the continent, yet the UK is still in the thick of it. Schools, shops and even restaurants are open here, and in a few days we'll be allowed to travel to neighbouring countries without restrictions. When I watch the UK news, I'm shocked by how far behind things seem there

Because the government were asleep at the wheel in February and March so the recovery process is longer and harder.

So so hard to hang onto our resilience. Is it helping you to look back? Is it helping to contemplate that this was all one huge mistake and that the future is terrifying?

Try to hang on. I sometimes feel my sanity is waning but let's face it,there is no support so we have to dig deep and try to cope.

I think the worst is not being able to see loved ones, and honestly, if I thought that was standing between me and sanity, I would see them (if you can). My brother has mental health problems and has seen my parents (admittedly waving from patio) every single day delivering their milk. You have to do what you have to do to make life bearable. That includes getting childcare (my teens are desperate to make money, I'm going to ask about if anyone wants them to go and babysit).

Who cares about shops reopening? People want and need to go to the dentist and the hairdresser! Everything else can be achieved online.

And reopen the schools! I’m furious about the damage being done to children by keeping them either isolated at home or dancing round each other at school washing their hands every six minutes to avoid a virus that doesn’t affect them and - possibly - hasn’t affected anyone they know!

Not a a wrap of evidence links the spread of Covid-19 to children, nothing. And yet we are still fed the lies about them being “super-spreaders”, their lives put on hold, years of effort towards public examinations scrapped, worthless “guesstimate” grades, varying degrees on online learning that a teacher may or may not mark, some left to play video games for months on end, others not seeing another child all summer.

People have lost their minds. I voted for this government and what a let down they have proved themselves to be. Don’t get me started on how they are allowing mob rule on our streets, iconoclasm, far left anarchy - all while the people we actually asked to rule our country prat about making up stupid, illogical rules about who we can visit and obsessing about the R rate.

I’m so over it.

Have tried hard to focus on making the day to day OK. Work, DC, domestics, talking to family, messaging friends, the odd zoom catch up.

Have found a few new things to try, or do more of. As a family, by myself. One of my DC has been loving biking on quiet roads/green space.

Some days are low/anxious ones.

Paap that is the hardest part here for me, seeing other countries move on.

So if people have gone back to normal, not following the rules, what’s the point of schools being closed? 15000 people can meet in London, protests still going on but schools can’t open. The economy is tanking big time, people’s lives are being impacted hugely. What’s the point of saying this needs to carry on until a vaccine?

@AnneLovesGilbert

Are other countries banging on about the R? I was chatting to someone from Australia the other day who had no idea what I was on about and thinks we’re all mad.

We are here in Ireland.

@ConstantlySeekingHappiness
Sorry for your loss.

I'm continuing to work, I'm lucky I can WFH and am happy (even though its stressful) for this extra time I'm getting to spend with the kids, but this has definitely set me back in my PND recovery. I had gone back to work after mat leave and was getting on with every day life, making progress, but that's all gone again now. Even though I can work, it's just being stuck inside the same 4 walls all day every day, not leaving the house, not seeing people, its putting me right back into an unhealthy routine.

I will never understand the people that voted Tory clapping.

Personally we aren't finding it too bad. DH is still working ( at home) and I'm furloughed. We've had great home schooling support from DS1's school and we're all in pretty good health. I've always felt we're probably in one of the best situations. The only really crappy side is that DS1 is yr 11 and his end of school rights of passage is wrecked - no prom, no long summer with mates, no festival. DS2 is in yr 6 and no transition for him.

I do however work in the community with very vulnerable families and have spent the entire time thinking how bloody horrendous this could be for them. A lot have severe mental health conditions, live in poverty or in cramped housing. I hope we get out of this hell as soon as possible for their sakes

@emmathedilemma my parents live in Dumfries and Galloway, where there was ONE new case last week.

Yet I'm still not allowed to go and visit them. It's fucking ridiculous and they need to stop it now.

15000 people can meet in London, protests still going on but schools can’t open.

Kids cant go to school or play on the swings in the park in case they pass on "THEVIRUS" to the vulnerable people who are able to go out to garden centres and golf courses and spread it amongst themselves.

Aa my mum (who has COPD) said, she knows what to do to keep herself safe, no one cared about protecting her from all the viruses that could have killed her in the past.

Is that 6.4% across the whole year Nil? A big dip but it should go up again.

Yes, across a year.

It has a long way to go up after that precipitous drop.

If we come out of lockdown quickly we have a shot, otherwise we are pretty fucked.

@HollySideEyes

I will never understand the people that voted Tory clapping.

I never understood the people who voted Labour clapping considering they started the privatisation...