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To ask your ethnic group?

165 replies

bojkaboom · 11/06/2020 22:58

...in your country of origin or parents' or grandparents' or ancestors' country of origin (if you know)?

Inspired by a thread here and I had to google an ethnic group mentioned. It's led to the interest in different ethnic groups in other countries and I'll like to learn more about other people's.

I'm English (with a Scottish heritage. Mum was part English and Scottish) but from ancestors, I've been told Anglo-Saxons who're Germanic tribes that migrated from Denmark and Germany to the island in the 5th century.

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Wizadorawobble · 12/06/2020 08:03

50/50 Irish and Scottish traveller. DH is Tonga.

I don't see what's racist about your question OP.

Carycy · 12/06/2020 08:07

I can’t find much besides white British. On my mums side ( including me) we all have decent roman nose and everyone in the generation before me tans to dark mahogany colour. I’m medium tan tempered by my pasty day. So I am thinking some Southern European is in there somewhere.

Carycy · 12/06/2020 08:08

*dad not day

Carycy · 12/06/2020 08:09

Sorry I suppose I should say white English. No known recent Scottish, Welsh or Irish.

midnightstar66 · 12/06/2020 08:11

@CanIHaveAPenguinPlease both DC's grandparents are from the north of Cyprus originally and are classed as refugees. They definitely look more Turkish/middle eastern than Greek appearance wise as does their df but they'd be horrified I'm sure to learn they had Turkish dna. We can't even tell fil when we go over the border for the beach or to shop. While I understand it's still raw for so many, the remains of one of DD's relatives was found only last year and their immediate family all still alive, the teachings are very biased in schools etc and conveniently omit the treatment of the Turkish Cypriots by the Greeks which was also pretty awful when you delve in to it a bit more.

sst1234 · 12/06/2020 08:12

Whether it’s this this thread or some people in general, amazing how some people are more interested in the question ‘where do you come from’ ahead of showing any other interest in that person. Mostly because they have skin that is some shade of brown.

Home42 · 12/06/2020 08:13

White Welsh back at least 5 generations on both sides. My great grandparents were welsh speaking, my grandparents were miners but mostly English speaking. My parents are English speaking and university educated. I am English speaking and university educated and my daughter is English speaking.

Mumoblue · 12/06/2020 08:13

My father's grandfather was Jewish and fled Poland and changed his name either around or just before WW2. So my actual surname is the one he changed it to and I don't know what it originally was. My dad's family might know but we're not in touch.

And my grandfather on my mother's side was born in London to an Irish mother.

Weirdly, growing up I didn't know any of this and I just thought my family had always lived in England.

midnightstar66 · 12/06/2020 08:18

Where did anyone say the interest came from the shade of skin? I find it all interesting!I particularly find scottish clan link interesting too for example

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 12/06/2020 08:23

@sst1234

Whether it’s this this thread or some people in general, amazing how some people are more interested in the question ‘where do you come from’ ahead of showing any other interest in that person. Mostly because they have skin that is some shade of brown.
Seeing we can’t see people’s skin colour behind the keyboard I don’t understand.

I can pass for Greek Cypriot (obviously) Italian, Spanish. I was taken for a Brazilian in Brazil & Cuban in Cuba. I was mistaken for being Turkish in Istanbul. I’m definitely Middle Eastern looking with a headscarf. I think it’s fascinating personally.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 12/06/2020 08:27

[quote midnightstar66]@CanIHaveAPenguinPlease both DC's grandparents are from the north of Cyprus originally and are classed as refugees. They definitely look more Turkish/middle eastern than Greek appearance wise as does their df but they'd be horrified I'm sure to learn they had Turkish dna. We can't even tell fil when we go over the border for the beach or to shop. While I understand it's still raw for so many, the remains of one of DD's relatives was found only last year and their immediate family all still alive, the teachings are very biased in schools etc and conveniently omit the treatment of the Turkish Cypriots by the Greeks which was also pretty awful when you delve in to it a bit more. [/quote]
Of course there were on both sides. As I said one of my grandparents is from the north & also as your family are classified as refugees. As are several of my friends. But the Turkish Cypriots were also displaced. There’s a fishing village - Zygi which is in the south but had mainly Turkish Cypriots & they were forcibly evacuated. They weren’t the only ones. This is why I like to teach my dcs that our similarities are more important than our differences.

SockYarn · 12/06/2020 08:31

I've done my family tree - background on dad's side is white Scottish borders as far back as I can get, suspicion of potentially Dutch before that but who knows.

Mum's is white Scottish a couple of generations, then Irish.

Givingup123456 · 12/06/2020 08:31

My side, Scottish and Irish but British until quite far back. My Nana did a lot of family history. Unfortunately I can't see it as my mum refused to let me ever look at itHmm and we are now no contact for the last 4 years. But my DH is Turkish by Northland but Kurdish by blood iyswim. It would be interesting to see theirs going back. We have 4 kids. DH is olive skinned thick black hair. I am once and blue eyes very pale. All 4 kids are pale with blue eyes. all blonde but start to go a very dark blonde as they get older. 2 have super thick hair like DH the other two have thinner hair like me. Genetics is funny

questionforengland · 12/06/2020 08:32

My mother's side is Scottish as far back as she's checked (1600s) I believe.
My dads side English / Irish.

MrsPear · 12/06/2020 08:33

Ethnicity Northern European

Nationality British

questionforengland · 12/06/2020 08:36

My dh is scottish on one side and Persian on another.

I'm blonde with blue eyes and freckles
Dh is dark haired, pale green eyes and olive skin
DS started blonde with blue eyes but his hair is darkening now and his eyes are turning green.

CherryPavlova · 12/06/2020 08:36

British born to Irish immigrant parents.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 12/06/2020 08:37

Yes we have the Cypriot hair. Wiry & curly for some fine & thinning for others. And as Julia Bradbury calls it the Greek nose.

ShopTattsyrup · 12/06/2020 08:38

Mother Welsh
Maternal grandmother 1/2 Chinese 1/2 Irish
Maternal grandfather Polish Jew

Father Yugoslavian
Paternal grandfather Bosnia/Yugoslavia
Paternal grandmother Russia

I look quite like my fathers side of the family and am occasionally noted as "looking Easern European" ... never quite sure what that means though 🤷‍♀️

MrsPear · 12/06/2020 08:39

My children are considered mixed heritage as h is classed as Southern European. I had extra blood tests when pregnant. His nationality is Albanian. For those who don’t know Albania is no where near Poland and wasn’t part of Russia. Nor is it the same country as Kosovo. It is next to Greece and was once part of the Ottoman Empire - so it is Muslim. Plus h is a deep olive except in summer when he can go mahogany.

Purpleandteal · 12/06/2020 08:40

I'm Hispanic/Latina. My genetic markup is about half Syrian Jewish, 15-20% native American and the rest is Spanish.

I hate those forms because I always have to choose "other" that's so dignifying.

midnightstar66 · 12/06/2020 08:40

I think the talk of appearance might have thrown the thread off a little and given the wrong impression but that discussion specific a tiny island with a huge and unique history with so many different influences is one I have personal interest in. As OP said it's a real rabbit hole if you look in to it. The whole 'where do you come from' opens up all the history linked to the answer and everyone's is different. Fascinating! (to me anyway, everyone has different interests) I find the pp with the multi generation links to the Scottish Borders interesting for example- another area with a really rich and turbulent history!

MrsPear · 12/06/2020 08:42

I’m a milk bottle with red highlights.

My eldest kept having blood tests because of his yellow skin. The doctors were confused - no jaundice levels. Then I pointed out there father.

So the children are getting darker as they get older.

user1471523870 · 12/06/2020 08:44

White - other. I am Italian, short, slim, with dark hair but fair skin. People often think I am French by my look.
I have Italian heritage for as long as I can trace back, both sides of the family. We are from the north, and that means we might well be a good mix of other European ethnic groups as the area was invaded so many times!

bojkaboom · 12/06/2020 08:44

Gosh! Can't @ you all one by one at this point but many many thanks to all those who've actually contributed to this thread so far (and those who still will, please keep them coming). You've given me a lot to learn about.

Reading your answers, I can feel so much excitement bubbling inside me, like I've a scrumptious meal right in front of me waiting to be devoured (I love food..ha!). Didn't think I'd be this thrilled by all the different mentions. It's all so riveting Grin Flowers

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