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To ask your ethnic group?

165 replies

bojkaboom · 11/06/2020 22:58

...in your country of origin or parents' or grandparents' or ancestors' country of origin (if you know)?

Inspired by a thread here and I had to google an ethnic group mentioned. It's led to the interest in different ethnic groups in other countries and I'll like to learn more about other people's.

I'm English (with a Scottish heritage. Mum was part English and Scottish) but from ancestors, I've been told Anglo-Saxons who're Germanic tribes that migrated from Denmark and Germany to the island in the 5th century.

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bojkaboom · 12/06/2020 01:51

@GalaxyAero Nationality, the country of citizenship (either by birth or naturalisation or both if dual).

Ethnicity, can be how you choose to identify (either by heritage/parents or grandparents continent or country or the ethnic group within your country of citizenship or your parents or grandparents, etc. Some identify by race or all of the above). Ethnicity, I'm learning is subjective and can differ in meaning depending on the country.

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Destroyedpeople · 12/06/2020 01:53

Well that's nonsense sorry. My 'nationality' isn't 'UK' like it says on my passport because UK isn't a nation.

bojkaboom · 12/06/2020 02:05

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shakingshaking · 12/06/2020 02:08

German, ginger or mousybrown, blue eyes and freckles with the occasional black haired olive skinned person .

bojkaboom · 12/06/2020 02:13

@GalaxyAero Nationality can also be by descent I believe, that is the parent(s) nationality but I think it depends on the country.

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SarahAndQuack · 12/06/2020 02:16

You know, as someone who was arrogant in their ignorance of no other ethnic groups in other countries (How woke?!) and when corrected had nothing else to say but to deflect, I'm amazed at your tenacity to argue unnecessarily. I have nothing more to say to you than go read a book or google something or get to bed and stop spouting rubbish here. Rest well.

Who are you talking about here? I've not seen anyone post on this thread indicating they believe ethnic groups exist in some countries and not others - except you.

Destroyedpeople · 12/06/2020 02:16

I am not 'spouting rubbish'. You seem to have no grasp of really basic political concepts like 'nation'. You go and do some reading.

fallfallfall · 12/06/2020 02:24

I consider myself Canadian although born in the USA.
Not First Nations, so I have to go back several hundred years to ancestors from France, Italy, Ireland and Germany.
Canadians when asked about their heritage generally speak about family immigrating here in the 1600’s.

IncorrigibleTitmouse · 12/06/2020 03:35

@bojkaboom The Pontic Genocide was horrific. We can only hope that one of these days we’ll evolve enough to stop killing each other. The Greek Cypriots have has even more recent unpleasant dealings with the Turks. I definitely grew up with a lot of anti-Turkish sentiment, and even personally saw some terrible violence on the island. Have you ever studied cultural anthropology? I bet you’d enjoy it if not.

IncorrigibleTitmouse · 12/06/2020 03:55

@bojkaboom If you’re looking for particularly interesting cultures, personally I found learning about the Sama-Bajau fascinating. They adapted to their environment both culturally and, in some ways, physiologically. Unfortunately, they experience terrible discrimination in their region of the world.

BogRollBOGOF · 12/06/2020 04:16

"White British" in a umpteen distant relations coming from other European countries kind if way.

It tips the balance on my DCs being more Irish than "English". Hypothetically, but they are eligable for Irish passports. I'm not.

AllNaturalIngredients · 12/06/2020 04:16

I’m a thoroughbred Irish 😉 99.9% down to the very parish I live in now ....according to ancestry dna. Interestingly, one half of my family looks Mediterranean... as do I, kind of.

pollyglot · 12/06/2020 04:59

According to Ancestry.com - more British than the Queen, sufficiently Irish/Scots to hold my head up on St Paddy's Day and thrill to the sound of the pipes, and a smatter of Norwegian. Paternal line from North Wales and the Outer Hebrides, mother's maiden name Scottish, but the family living in England for the 450 years we can trace them. My DC see themselves as Kiwis through and through - they have no interest in their deep ancestry from Britain. DH always proud of his Welshness, and ever ready to pound out "Men of Harlech" - recently discovered he has 40% Scandanavian ancestry, and has switched to researching the Vikings, and recording ancient Nordic music ("the music of my people"). What does this show? You are what you want to be. BTW, I have a degree in Anthropology.

Cadent · 12/06/2020 05:05

My family is Welsh and I'm short and dark so probably a celt

Off topic but how are Celt and Celtic pronounced? Soft c or hard c?

ttigerlilly · 12/06/2020 05:08

I have English, Scottish and South African heritage

lemmathelemmin · 12/06/2020 05:20

I'm English and I think part of the Buganda tribe in Uganda.

Your question is not racist btw OP.

SharonasCorona · 12/06/2020 05:31

It's led to the interest in different ethnic groups in other countries and I'll like to learn more about other people's.

My parents are from a country that doesn’t have anything like Ancestry.com.

Whilst I’m happy for people on this thread who have deep knowledge of their ancestry, it’s bit a sad for my people like me who will never know this stuff.

HellsAngel81 · 12/06/2020 05:38

Mainly white British, with a dollop of South African and Irish from my maternal Grandad.

LongPauseNoReply · 12/06/2020 05:41

Racist?! Hmm

I’m Irish/Welsh. My cousins did trace ancestors back to Norway and I’m tall so definitely Viking blood in there somewhere Grin

OhTheRoses · 12/06/2020 05:42

I'm British, white and have been described as being very English, but

Mother's ancestry:
Maternal - 1/2 English 1/2 Irish
Paternal - Russian

Father's (German/Jewish but)
Paternal: Ashkenazi - Russian/Polish ancestry
Maternal: Sephardic - Spanish/Portugese

My father, grandfather and grandmother's maternal grandparents arrived in the UK as refugees: in 1939, 1921 and 1860 respectively.

DH: Two English Grandparents, one Welsh, one French.

citychick · 12/06/2020 05:43

Scottish. On both sides. My father's ancestors were Jacobites!

Even further back though, my maiden name is French.

I look 💯 Scottish. Strawberry blonde hair, freckles and pale skin.

Bluemoooon · 12/06/2020 05:44

DNA test says Irish and British - bit disappointed as I thought due to surname we had viking blood too. DH does have Scandinavian/British heritage though, annoying.

midnightstar66 · 12/06/2020 05:48

I also find it fascinating. My grandads grandad is black African bit it's too far down the line to tick any box other than white British although one of my DD's and one of my brothers dc both have very unusually curly hair. My brother and I have different dads so it's very likely it's come from my mums side with the African heritage. My DC are half Greek Cypriot, have Cy birth certificates and both passports. I've no idea what box to tick for them on the forms which don't even always have the same options.

EmperorCovidula · 12/06/2020 05:51

My children are the first generation of my family in living memory not to have migrated somewhere (we’re considering migrating now so that may change in the near future). I’m not sure when my family last lived in the (very small) cradle of our ethnic group but bar that one place we’re minorities everywhere (although there is a lot of dispute about whether our ethnic group actually constitutes a single ethnicity or multiple small ethnicities that are one cultural group, this is partially politically motivated but also partially a genuine question - three quarters of the ethnicity are Caucasian with the remainder in the Mongolian profile). Erm so basically we’re not from (using this in the English sense of the word which I am really sick of) anywhere where any of us are from.

GinDaddyRedux · 12/06/2020 05:59

Mixed race - black Caribbean parent who came to the UK, and white parent with Irish / English grandparents