Horse rider and her 'request'

[Harmonyrays]

I need to know if im being unreasonable here in thinking that this lady was being deliberately awkward or something if its else. For contex, we are non white, they were white.

So My children (2 + 6) and I were having a great time exploring the woods when a horse box pulled in and two women unloaded their horses. Kids were naturally excited by this and wanted to get closer to see. I made sure we were a good distance away, at least 10 metres and we were up on the slope. The kids were watching the horses being unloaded for a few minutes. My son had a stick in his hands as he was ramble around and likes to do this. I made sure they were quite. The horses were quickly taken around the other side of the box to saddle up.

After a few minutes we decided to head down to the path and walk around the other side so they could see the horses more cleary and continue our walk. Again they were quite. We found a little bridge that was going the opposite way to where the horses were and my son wanted to explore that so we headed that way. We dissapeared from the womens view for around 5 mins and then i went back to bridge to wait for my son. At this point one of the women, in her 60's, walked over and said 'we are about to take the horses up here (a path that was no where near me and my chldren) can you just move on somewhere else. I said to her im sorry but we are here well away from you and your horses. She then said 'well cant you just move on because the sticks are scaring the horses'. Bear in mind there were no sticks in view at this point at all. As this was the second time she had said 'just move on' with a dismissive hand wave i was getting annoyed and said well were not doing anything to you or the horses. She then said 'well what ARE you doing here'. I said to her 'i dont need to tell you what im doing here, we are in the woods and free to go where we please'. She then looked like she was getting exasperated and huffed saying 'yes i know that but im asking you nicely if you can just move on until we move the horses up the road'.

Given that we were over a bridge and a good 20 metres away from the horses i think it had nothing to do with sticks. I feel she had an entitled attitude and like there was something else bothering her.

The irony is we have been around horses for many years so are aware of how to behave which is exactly why we kept our distance.

If i were alone this wouldnt have bothered me but my son heard and was then saying oh lets just go mum. I feel like she made him feel he shouldnt be there and that upset me.

So i need to know your thoughts, yes i am being unreasonable the lady was right in asking us to move on. No im not being unreasonable and she was out of line telling us to move on.

Thank you

I consider myself very classy. Must be my privilege shining through.

@RaceDayCrumbs glad you're checking it. It's a start.

You realise you’re reference to privilege checking has evolved from my own comment making that exact sentiment? So although you’re purporting to argue with me and score points, you’re actually supporting the beliefs I expressed earlier on.

It’s nice that we’ve been able to agree

@RaceDayCrumbs yes, we agree on this.

However, I wonder why you made this comment to me when you'd never make it to the OP?

Insulting comments from @SleepOhHowIMissYou:

shame on you

pathetic

check your own heritage

Class

Quote from same person, who claims to have heard Socrates say this:

'"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."

This really is most entertaining. I suppose what Socrates really said was 'When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of some losers, and for other people, it's the sign of a good, solid argument'

@Eckhart I'm old, but certainly not old enough to have heard Socrates in person. Besides, I'm told down thread that this quote is not from Socrates at all, which is likely right, I could google it I suppose. Whether from Socrates or not, the message is valid.

What you've highlighted are reactions, not insults. Why don't you go and find what I was reacting to and see if you agree with the generalisations and assumptions made about a race of people that garnered these replies.

@Eckhart and if you're going to quote me, get it right. I did not say "check your own heritage". Check your own privilege. Not heritage.

What on earth has race got to do with it?

Hear what Plato said, @SleepOhHowIMissYou?

'Only idiots react.'

And Aristotle

'Correcting minor grammatical errors in an opponent reveals that your original points were not valid, and somebody has successfully pissed you right off.'

I love Aristotle

@Malbecblooms

What on earth has race got to do with it?

If you're white, nothing!

@GazeboParty you can't just assume that someone is asking you to move out the way of a horse because your not white 🤣

[quote wttaf]@GazeboParty you can't just assume that someone is asking you to move out the way of a horse because your not white 🤣 [/quote]
Of course not but if you're white it isn't an issue for you - so no assumption needed.

@Eckhart what minor grammatical errors have I corrected? Do you think privilege and heritage mean the same thing?

@Eckhart let's see if you react. 😂

Unlikely. I respond, usually.

@Eckhart Aristotle had a remarkably modern turn of phase for a Greek BC philosopher.

"And Aristotle

'Correcting minor grammatical errors in an opponent reveals that your original points were not valid, and somebody has successfully pissed you right off.'"

Sic erat scriptum?

@Eckhart WWPD (what would Plato do?)

Yeah, I was taking the piss. I don't understand Latin, sorry.

@Eckhart so are you going to respond then? Do you know the difference between privilege and heritage?

@Eckhart you know what it means when someone writes SIC after a quote, yes?

Yes, I typed the wrong word, rather than not understanding your point.

My point was that when people insult you, it's because they have a weak argument, but it seems ok for you to insult others.

Yes, I know what sic means.

I'll leave you to it now, so no further responses, no.

@Eckhart so a typographical error. Not a error in grammar? Is that right?

Show me the insults please. So far I have been called stupid by your gang-mate @RaceDayCrumbs (add 'paddy' to that slur, I dare you) and an idiot by you.

She sounds very snotty.

YANBU

Make up your mind OP. Either you

have been around horses for many years or as far as you're concerned horses are beautiful creatures you don't see all the time The more you protest just what a reasonable person you are the more I begin to think you have an agenda. And yes, as another poster observed, what on earth has the woman's age to do with anything?

A gang isn’t a two people who’s views oppose your own 🤔 it is possible that more than one person thinks your arguments lack credibility without them having formed an alliance.