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3 years since he said he would propose, now he gets angry if I bring it up

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WaityKatie89 · 09/06/2020 23:28

Hi

I need some brutally honest advice about my relationship and to know if I’m being unreasonable.

I’ve written and rewritten this post so many times, so I’m just going to put the basics out and some background and hopefully you can give me some advice.

I’ve been with my OH for nearly 8 years. We’ve lived together for 5, own a home together and have a cat. He’s my best friend and I love him unconditionally which is why this situation has left me so baffled and to be honest, heartbroken.

About 3 years ago, I decided to end things and during the discussion (completely out of the blue) he told me he was planning on proposing.

Long story short, we stayed together but in the past 3 years nothing has happened - in fact, he now gets angry and annoyed if I try to bring up anything to do with engagements or marriage.

Initially he took me to look at rings as he wanted to propose to me with the “actual ring” but after about 10 months, that stopped and he started to get irritated when I brought it up.

Thinking it was just a bloke thing and that ring shopping isn’t exactly exciting for him. I carried on looking by myself but every idea I put to him was either “too expensive”, “are you sure of that one?”, “what if you change your mind?” etc.

The final straw came when I presented a design to him that was VERY under budget, about 10% of the budget he initially told me. So what did he say when I showed it to him? “It’s too cheap”. I absolutely hit the roof and told him all I wanted to do was be with him and that if that was really his reason for not getting a ring, then he clearly wasn’t serious. Well... he bought the ring, which was delivered 3 weeks later... almost 7 months ago.

It was “hidden” in his sock drawer, where it has remained COMPLETELY unopened (not even the parcel delivery bag has been opened) since.

OH still continues to get angry if I try to bring anything up about weddings etc. I’ve tried to talk to him (calmly, crying, joking) at different times, but every time he just gets angry and irritated and I end up in tears. On the flip side, he also regularly mentions how I will be his fiancé soon?!!

He’s said that he’s “excited on the inside” but because I want to talk about engagements “all the time” that’s what makes him so annoyed and why he gets angry every time.

So, here’s the big question - AIBU? Is there something I’m missing here that’s really obvious to everyone else because I would really like to know.

This whole situation has left me utterly heartbroken, it’s made me feel like the whole idea only came about because I tried to leave him and the subsequent avoidance is because he doesn’t want to. I’ve flat out asked him if this is the case to which he’s said no. I’ve even asked if we can take a proposal off the cards just for now, until this has all coolled down - thinking this might take pressure off him - but he refuses.

I feel so lost and heartbroken. I’ve been with this person for nearly 8 years and this has made me feel like o don’t know him at all. I feel like maybe this is my fault for being too excited and not letting it go? All I know is now that any proposal will be tinged with sadness because of of what has happened.

OP posts:
Bananalanacake · 10/06/2020 07:38

Is he worried about the expense of a fancy party. Tell him you're happy with a registry office wedding where you only need to pay the admin fee and for a copy of the license.

sixthtimelucky · 10/06/2020 07:41

I came on to say what another poster just said.

You should never love someone 'unconditionally'! There should be conditions and boundaries in relationships and you should know what your own personal breaking points are. Otherwise you are literally saying that person can say or do anything and you'd never leave them. If you really feel you love someone unconditionally it means you either have low self worth or your 'love' for them is more of an unhealthy obsession.

OP I've never understood the obsession with proposals and marriage BUT a) it's important to you and it's not to him and b) he doesn't want to marry you. I'm sorry for your pain, please leave him and find happiness with someone else.

TeapotCollection · 10/06/2020 07:42

Quote Giespeace Wed 10-Jun-20 05:34:38
That cheap ring will be on some other woman’s finger within a year of you leaving him. Lucky her.
He is getting in the way of the man who truly loves and respects you, and who wants to build a life with you. Get him out of the way and make room for that special man and that happiness.
This is no way to live

^ this x1,000 OP. I was in a very similar position 18 years ago. When I finally found the strength to leave him he was dumbfounded and offered to marry me immediately

Nope, too late

Fluffycloudland77 · 10/06/2020 07:44

Make sure you take the cat with you so he doesn’t neglect it.

cheezy · 10/06/2020 07:45

OP he’s doing the same horrible push/ pull dance that my recent ex used to do. Would pull me back when I tried to leave and would push me away when I tried to get close. It’s exhausting.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 10/06/2020 07:46

When DH proposed and we started discussing dates, he suggested one about 3 months later, which was a shock to me-but he just said I asked you to marry me; not to get engaged. Surely that is something you want rather than this. I’d leave him.

Confrontayshunme · 10/06/2020 07:47

My friend's sister did eventually get a proposal eleven years after he said he would, and they are happy, but I have literally never met another couple where she was made to wait and it worked. And his reservation was about the actual sacrament of marriage not anything else. If he wants to marry you, he will, and quickly.

WoollyMammouth · 10/06/2020 07:48

What will happen is you’ll threaten to leave again, he’ll propose and in 3 years you’ll be having the same discussion about why he won’t set a date.

He doesn’t want to marry you.

Why did you leave 3 years ago?

EnidsCrochetCorner · 10/06/2020 07:51

He doesn't want to marry you, if he did that ring would not only have been on your finger 3 years ago but the wedding would have been discussed and booked.

If marriage is important to you then get out now. But like others have said the second you say you are leaving he'll propose, or tell you he had this whole thing he was going to do.

It is bullshit and designed to keep you washing his pants and warming his bed. He doesn't want to marry you. As a PP said you are a convenience.

Marriage was important to me, told Dh this on about date number 4 and before we slept together. He told me it was important to him too. Went out for a year, moved in together, shortly afterwards got engaged, no big down on one knee proposal, but a discusssion about getting married, bought a ring, booked a wedding. That was 20+ years ago.

Stop waiting for someone else to steer your life. He doesn't want to marry you. Sell the house, move on. He has shown you who he is, words mean fuck all, actions are everything. He has never said I won't get married because the second he does that he knows you will leave. But he has shown you that he will not marry you. Every day, for over 1000 days, for over 3 years, he is not going to marry you.

Eddielzzard · 10/06/2020 07:51

Yes, I'm only echoing others.

Unconditional love for a partner is not appropriate. For a child yes, but your DP does have to uphold standards ie. not be an arsehole.

Secondly he doesn't want to get married and make the commitment but he doesn't want to tell you because he likes his cushy life. He only said that last time to stop you leaving. BTW how much of the house work do you do? Is it a 50:50 split?

Thirdly, this is now a huge battle over the ring, which is a side issue. You win on the ring. Then you fight for a proposal. Then? The wedding? Then the resentment because he didn't want to get married? There's no win win here.

You have a decision:

EITHER you stay unmarried and you accept it. He will not commit.

OR you leave and move on with your life.

DuckALaurent · 10/06/2020 07:53

@WaityKatie89 you say you love him ‘unconditionally’ but you shouldn’t. There should always be conditions in a relationship. How he treats you should be a very important condition.

From what you’ve said it appears he doesn’t want to marry you. Perhaps your instinct to leave him years ago was the correct one.

Leobynature · 10/06/2020 07:53

His just not that into you 🙈

tiredanddangerous · 10/06/2020 07:54

He very clearly doesn’t want to marry you. Are you honestly still expecting him to propose?!

Your options are to continue with the status quo or leave him.

Quarantimespringclean · 10/06/2020 07:54

I agree with everyone who has said that he is stringing you along. He doesn’t want to even propose to you, let alone marry you. That’s fine in itself. Marriage isn’t for everyone, it’s not compulsory but if you want it a lot and he doesn’t want it at all then the two of you are not compatible.

I would go further than some other posters and say that he’s an emotionally abusive bully. He pretended that he wanted to be engaged to get you to stay with him. Since then he has repeatedly reneged on that. If you remind him of it he has a go at you until you cry and then later throws you another bone by mentioning that soon you will be his fiancé.

If you leave him now he will produce the ring with a flourish and give you a big ‘I can’t live without you’ proposal. Then you can wear your compromise ring for another few years while he evades setting a wedding date.

Leave him now. As long as you stay with him you are cutting yourself off from meeting someone who wants the same things you do.

TheRealShatParp · 10/06/2020 07:58

Hi Op,
I’m sorry you’re in this situation. These replies must really hurt.
Your boyfriend has been very unkind to you. I agree with the majority of the other posters in that I do not think he wants to marry you.
Even if you do get a proposal there will be many more hurdles before a marriage takes place or quite possibly doesn’t take place. He may become bitter, pick fights, disagree on everything until the wedding is called off.
I think your future with him will be very miserable.
There is someone out there OP who will treat you with all the love and respect that you deserve. Someone who will feel lucky to be married to you. You’re worth a lot more.
Out of interest OP, how old are you?

UnimpressiveUsername · 10/06/2020 07:59

Are you ok, OP? Sending hugs. You deserve better than this and I wish you all the best.

eatsleepread · 10/06/2020 08:00

He is hedging his bets, and doesn't necessarily see a future with you. I'm so sorry Thanks
I would die a thousand deaths before I nagged a guy into proposing, or getting married. This will chip away at your confidence. And your self-respect must come above all else.
All the best.

PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock · 10/06/2020 08:02

He doesn't want to marry you.

I don't know if he's changed his mind since buying the ring or if he did that because he felt he had to in order to keep you, but either way it's not what he wants. So I think you're right about the avoidance. And there's not necessarily anything wrong with not wanting to get married in itself, but there's a lot wrong with stringing you along, bullshitting and using it as a control device.

SummerDayWinterEvenings · 10/06/2020 08:04

I don't get it. 8 years and you were clear 3 years ago at least what you wanted. To be honest, you have all the control here. But NEVER lower yourself beneath the other person. Why are you in love him unconditionally? He's not a child. Or by the sounds of it a very nice person -but that's another matter.

I'd sit him down and say I've booked the registry office on 1st December 2020 I want to married before we start having children -I won't have a baby without being married to you. So 1st December 2020 it is, it's booked. You are in or your out. You have to make a decision. If I'm not the right person for you -we are better parting and remaining friends. IF you then want to spend money on a huge party or holiday as extra - fine.

I've have two friends that did this. One was married on said date and is still married now. One isn't. But she left.

tenlittlecygnets · 10/06/2020 08:04

About 3 years ago, I decided to end things and during the discussion (completely out of the blue) he told me he was planning on proposing.

Why did you want to end things with him back then?

He's just strnging you along. He knew that you wanted to marry so threw out the suggestion to reel you back in. Now he plainly doesn't want to marry - he's showing none of the signs, is she?? Getting angry and defensive is a way of trying to stop you ever talking about it.

Horrible, cruel behaviour. But why are you so desperate to marry him??

End things, sell the house, move on. Find someone who really wants to be with you.

waltzingparrot · 10/06/2020 08:04

Sorry OP. If you manage to force him into proposing by threatening to leave, I fear you will be a fiancé for the rest of your time together.

Find the strength to move on. There's a potential happy life out there that you're just delaying.

SteelyPanther · 10/06/2020 08:06

So he said he was going to propose to keep you when you were leaving, and he still hasn’t 3 years later.
Do you love him so much that you’d live the rest of your life with him without marriage ?
Are you wanting children ? How would you feel if he said you could have a baby but then still wouldn’t let you 3 years later ?

AmethystMoonShine · 10/06/2020 08:07

He’s controlling you. Huge red flag. Run for the hills and take the cat with you.

SlowDown76mph · 10/06/2020 08:07

Would you even want to wear that ring now..? Would you actually want to marry a man who is so... reluctant? How could you bear it? Regain your self esteem. Fight for it, wear it, revel in it.

It's been an experience. Move on. There are far greater, richer, rewarding, experiences to come. But not with him. Meantime, double your contraception.

AtrociousCircumstance · 10/06/2020 08:12

Agree with everyone else. He’s comfy and bored and settled and isn’t in love with you. He doesn’t want to marry you.

End it. It’s just a feeble substandard half-arsed relationship and won’t make you anywhere near happy. It’s your choice and within your power so stop being passive OP.

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