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3 years since he said he would propose, now he gets angry if I bring it up

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WaityKatie89 · 09/06/2020 23:28

Hi

I need some brutally honest advice about my relationship and to know if I’m being unreasonable.

I’ve written and rewritten this post so many times, so I’m just going to put the basics out and some background and hopefully you can give me some advice.

I’ve been with my OH for nearly 8 years. We’ve lived together for 5, own a home together and have a cat. He’s my best friend and I love him unconditionally which is why this situation has left me so baffled and to be honest, heartbroken.

About 3 years ago, I decided to end things and during the discussion (completely out of the blue) he told me he was planning on proposing.

Long story short, we stayed together but in the past 3 years nothing has happened - in fact, he now gets angry and annoyed if I try to bring up anything to do with engagements or marriage.

Initially he took me to look at rings as he wanted to propose to me with the “actual ring” but after about 10 months, that stopped and he started to get irritated when I brought it up.

Thinking it was just a bloke thing and that ring shopping isn’t exactly exciting for him. I carried on looking by myself but every idea I put to him was either “too expensive”, “are you sure of that one?”, “what if you change your mind?” etc.

The final straw came when I presented a design to him that was VERY under budget, about 10% of the budget he initially told me. So what did he say when I showed it to him? “It’s too cheap”. I absolutely hit the roof and told him all I wanted to do was be with him and that if that was really his reason for not getting a ring, then he clearly wasn’t serious. Well... he bought the ring, which was delivered 3 weeks later... almost 7 months ago.

It was “hidden” in his sock drawer, where it has remained COMPLETELY unopened (not even the parcel delivery bag has been opened) since.

OH still continues to get angry if I try to bring anything up about weddings etc. I’ve tried to talk to him (calmly, crying, joking) at different times, but every time he just gets angry and irritated and I end up in tears. On the flip side, he also regularly mentions how I will be his fiancé soon?!!

He’s said that he’s “excited on the inside” but because I want to talk about engagements “all the time” that’s what makes him so annoyed and why he gets angry every time.

So, here’s the big question - AIBU? Is there something I’m missing here that’s really obvious to everyone else because I would really like to know.

This whole situation has left me utterly heartbroken, it’s made me feel like the whole idea only came about because I tried to leave him and the subsequent avoidance is because he doesn’t want to. I’ve flat out asked him if this is the case to which he’s said no. I’ve even asked if we can take a proposal off the cards just for now, until this has all coolled down - thinking this might take pressure off him - but he refuses.

I feel so lost and heartbroken. I’ve been with this person for nearly 8 years and this has made me feel like o don’t know him at all. I feel like maybe this is my fault for being too excited and not letting it go? All I know is now that any proposal will be tinged with sadness because of of what has happened.

OP posts:
Eddielzzard · 10/06/2020 11:17

Really positive that you have a deadline. Set a reminder in your diary. Otherwise it's so easy to let time slide by. Good luck. And remember, you're deserving of a loving, kind, respectful relationship.

HforHotel · 10/06/2020 11:17

Why would you apologise to him??! He’s strung you along for such a long time.

I’m much older than you and say this kindly. I feel sad reading your post OP. You’re settling and if he proposes now, it’s because you cajoled him and forced his hand. You deserve someone who is super keen and excited to marry you.

AskingforaBaskin · 10/06/2020 11:22

I’m also going to apologise for bringing it up constantly, as I’m aware blame lies with me on this part.

No No No No No!!!
Why the hell do women feel like it's wrong to demand they have control over their futures!
You control your life.
Don't you dare apologise.
You make it clear to him you are sick of his shit.
He has done this to you and you've been a bit passive until now.
Stop it, make your demands known. He either gets on board or you leave.

Bestexoticmarigoldhotel · 10/06/2020 11:22

@WaityKatie89 I think till the end of the year is too long. I would not mention anything about it until September (plenty of lovely opportunities to propose in summer) and if nothing I would break up and leave in September (and whatever you do do not accept if he suddenly then proposes when you try to go). There is no need to wait 7 more months.

For context. I didn’t understand why my now DH wasn’t proposing. I had a upset chat with him one night and he said it was the pressure of the perfect proposal. I said I didn’t care about that I just wanted to marry him. He proposed three days later with a proposal ring, we were married 8 months later. If he wanted to propose he would have done it already and if he wanted to marry you he would. YANBU

Moomin12345 · 10/06/2020 11:24

Prepare to leave, then leave and cut him out of your life. He's clearly a time waster

BeatrixPottersAlterEgo · 10/06/2020 11:26

You've nothing to apologise for. If he said he was going to propose three months ago and you've mentioned it twice a day ever since, that would be one thing, but we're talking three YEARS here, and that was only him mentioning it. Friend of mine got engaged three years ago, she's now married, bought a house, had a child and pregnant with no 2

Moomin12345 · 10/06/2020 11:26

Also, watch "He's just not that into you". Everyone knows someone whose boyfriend just wasn't a marrying type until he met someone he wanted enough to marry, then ruthlessly vanished and was married (and often with children) a couple of years after the breakup of his long term relationship.

RuggerHug · 10/06/2020 11:27

He will keep lying though OP. He's had more chances and shown you what he thinks. Start planning now to leave in September but say nothing. If he does anything before then, fair enough. But if not you'll be sorted to leave. Don't apologise to him. Don't explain. He can do some work if he's bothered.

sarahc336 · 10/06/2020 11:31

Well the fact you'd had enough originally and had decided to leave him was enough for me op, you just have had good reasons for wanting to leave him back then? This guy clearly wasn't intending to propose but he said this in a panic to keep you, he's not stalling and I doubt he will propose. Cut your losses and find a guy who won't be able to wait to put a ring on your finger, xx

B1rdbra1n · 10/06/2020 11:33

He's just bullshiting you, trying to keep his options open for as long as possible, or to put it another way having a laugh at your expense.
You should not tolerate this treatment.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 10/06/2020 11:36

OP, i'm gad you have found the comments helpful and I'm glad that you recognise about the "unconditional love" stuff- noone should unconditionally love any partner- if he cheats or is abusive, its perfectly healthy to have conditions that you wont put up with. I'm also glad that you recognise your past abusive relationships are still having an effect on you now that you see this relationship as being "enough" because he doesnt abuse you. You have a lot of courage to self reflect in such a healthy way and I really admire you for that.

I am concerned that you are still apologising though. You dont need to apologise for your needs in a relationship- we all have them and its good to express them. I'm worried that you will wait until the end of this year and nothing will have changed and then you'll wait some more until spring and then until summer and then- maybe he'll propose at christmas! and then yet another year will have gone by with no change at all. If you have set the end of this year as a deadline then you MUST stick to it and leave. Otherwise this will simply go on and on and on for the next decade. I know its scary being single but he's had literally YEARS to do this. Years. He knows how important this is to you and he isnt doing it. Its not like youve only been together for 6 months- youve been together for 8 YEARS. 8 YEARS! 8 years is more than long enough for him to know if he wants to get married or not. I just really worry for you that this will go on for another 8 years and you will look back at this moment and bitterly regret not leaving. Please just really think about this. Good luck!

areyoubeingserviced · 10/06/2020 11:39

Op, if you apologise to him, he will use this as a form of control. It will be evidence that you were wrong and he has been right all along. This will give him an excuse to delay the proposal.
As for giving him until the end of the year- you could have found a man who truly loves you and wants to marry you by then.
If I had to go through all this hassle to get my dh to propose me, I would have dumped him . It’s not supposed to be this hard ffs. Don’t settle Op

Pleasenodont · 10/06/2020 11:39

He didn’t want you to leave because he couldn’t face being alone so he used the proposal as a guise to make you stick around. He hasn’t proposed because he doesn’t want to marry you, it’s as simple as that really.

I’d leave now and find someone who wants the same things as you.

Ploppymoodypants · 10/06/2020 11:40

Yep, sorry I was going to say, at best, he’ll promise to ‘shut you up’ but then won’t set a date.
And even if you do get married. Will it be the happiest day of your life, knowing you had to push him so hard into it? I speaking from experience here.

Pleasenodont · 10/06/2020 11:41

Also should have added that even if he did propose now it would feel forced and no doubt he’d then drag his feet over actually planning a wedding.

TooTiredTodayOk · 10/06/2020 11:41

If it's this hard trying to get him to get engaged, imagine how difficult planning an actual wedding with him will be.

But you don't have to - because deep down you know that even if he 'pops the question' and you get to wear an engagement ring, a marriage is never ever realistically going to happen.

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 10/06/2020 11:49

I agree, end it. Sell the house. Move on and enjoy your life. When you're ready, you'll meet someone who does want to marry you and not just string you along. I'm sorry OP ThanksCake

TriciaH · 10/06/2020 11:58

Been with my partner almost 12 years. Still waiting. If I went on constantly I think it would put him off asking. Although I'm not sure his ever going to get round to it. His mum brings it up often enough so when she does I will say something other than that I don't. You either need to accept it may not happen and just carry on or you have two other choice. Walk away now or set a deadline and if his not asked by then you walk. But if you decide on that don't bring it up let him decide.

TorkTorkBam · 10/06/2020 12:01

Don't apologise for being pushy about what is important to you

Don't tell him it is important to you because you already made that completely obvious.

Drop it. Do nothing. Watch. Start looking at what is actually happening not what you wish were happening. Look at the actions. Ignore the words.

Prepare to leave now. Don't start preparing in six months.

He has made it bloody obvious he doesn't see a future with you. I expect that when you stop trying to badger him into wanting what you want and look at the reality you'll be gone in a month.

B1rdbra1n · 10/06/2020 12:02

He does not want to be tied to you because he considers you to be potentially a liability for him

TorkTorkBam · 10/06/2020 12:05

You say he is your best friend. That worries me. Do you have close female friends too?

WizardOfAus · 10/06/2020 12:06

Please don’t apologise to him!

TorkTorkBam · 10/06/2020 12:09

This relationship got you both on the property ladder and provided some companionship. He probably got his housework done for him too.

It was a starter relationship. Time to move on.

He is waiting for the right woman then he will be off in a flash, married and with babies in the blink of an eye.

fia101 · 10/06/2020 12:09

If someone wants to marry you all they need to ask is

Will you marry me

Simple

No need for an engagement party or fancy wedding or big ring. If someone wants to be with you it's as a simple as that.

No offence but he didn't even try to placate you with a big fancy ring.

If he is like this about an engagement what will he be like about kids - you could end up playing a waiting game for every important decision with him always dangling a carrot "you'll be my fiancé soon"

TeapotCollection · 10/06/2020 12:09

PLEASE don’t apologise to him and PLEASE plan your exit NOW, he is not a nice person at all and you deserve SO much better

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