To think I shouldn’t Be offered a home visit

[Whythough64]

I’ve been engaging with the mh team over phone. I spoke to them on the phone today and they are proposing they do a home visit as they are concerned. Aibu to say no on the grounds it’s against the government guidelines?

Op suggested outside they said no
To go to them she said no
Until now over the phone has been ok

Go to them they said no** sorry for the mistake

They are saying they won’t go in my garden as the weather will be cold on that day.

Exactly @Whythough64
Have they given you any reasons why. You can pm me of you want this to stay off the thread.

In case you missed this
www.rethink.org/advice-and-information/rights-restrictions/mental-health-laws/mental-health-act-1983/

I've had to call the crisis team twice since lockdown due to changing AP and the awful side effects. The first time I was fobbed off, when I was begging for help mainly due to akathisia. The second time I was just relieved to actually reach someone over the phone who listened and dropped off a prescription to help with my acute panic attacks.
I would have loved a home visit because I was in such a bad place and it was scaring my teenage dc.
Please reconsider, even if it's in the garden.

Sorry just seen update re garden.

This week alone I've had a Sky engineer and BT Openreach Engineer inside my house OP. Both of these completely within government guidelines. Both following social distancing rules and wearing proper protective clothing.

I'm sure that you will be absolutely fine with a MH worker (again, allowed within current guidelines!)

Yes, we have to comply with the rules to keep ourselves and others safe...but as others have pointed out, this falls within that category, just as my engineers did 🤷‍♀️

It seems to me quite normal to want to have control over who comes into your home. Having a MH Issue should not mean that you wave goodbye to privacy. Those who have said the OP doesn’t sound reasonable: I’m not seeing anything unreasonable in her attitude. As a PP suggested, put it in writing (email) that you do not wish a home visit as it is an unnecessary invasion of your privacy. But that you wish to continue treatment nonetheless.

@GinWithRosie
Did all those people call you and demand to come into your home?

I am a bit concerned after what you said about your partner. i would expect him to be very keen for you to get all the support you can and to keep a good relationship with the MH team.

If he is himself very concerned about coronavirus that might explain it a bit. What is going on with him? It's a bit of a red flag.

@canigooutyet you’ve clearly had bad experiences or have your own prejudice. But I’m not sure you’re helping the OP.
The MH team aren’t demanding to come into the house. They are saying what they need to happen so they can do their jobs.

@canigooutyet I was merely focusing on the safety aspect in case that was fuelling the OPs anxiety, which would be understandable.

They will not want to see you in the garden in case the conversation is over heard.
They will be wearing PPE and will maintain social distancing. Show them to the sink and have a clean towel when they arrive so they can wash their hands.
Keep a small binbag handy so they can dispose of their PPE before leaving ( if you feel comfortable, they can put this straight into your big bin)

Try not to let anxiety overwhelm you. Home visits have been, and will continue to be carried out when considered essential. You are important and they consider it essential to see you. Trust them. I hope you start to feel better soon.

If they aren’t accepting logical alternatives then isn’t that demanding?

And no I haven’t had a bad experience because I exerted my legal rights.

For her to suggest her own back garden she must be aware of how this impacts her own privacy.

I guess it depends how serious your case is OP. And how serious you think it is compared to how serious they think it is.

They clearly have a reason that either you don’t know about or you’re not telling us (which is your prerogative). In my experience if the MH team want to home visit there is a damn good reason why and I suspect you know what that it is op.

You don’t usually need to exert your legal rights against people who want to help you improve your mental health.
They have said no to the garden. The OP has said it’s because it’s too cold. There may be an issue about them not being allowed to wear coats etc because of PPE. They may also have to consider not having sensitive conversations where they can be overheard.
Engage with them OP.
I too am concerned as to why your partner wants to prevent them coming to the house.

They are worried that my risk is escalating. It’s nothing to do with my partner.

I think it’s their decision not yours.

They wouldn’t want to see you face to face if things were okay. I hope things feel better soon

I just wanted to say I hope you find a way to have the help, and they come to some sort of compromise.

Surely a visit is positive. Everyone in the country isn't carrying Coronavirus and when it comes to your mental health it's important you get the help you need! Are you more worried about prepping for the visit? If everyone just stopped going near people it would end in alot more death and sadness.

Put the virus to the back of your mind and focus on you and what support you need for you x

But you say your partner objects to “visitors”.
If they see an escalating risk and you don’t cooperate then you could (depends on the situation) risk a section. Trust me. I’m trying to pick up the pieces after that happened this week.

Home visits from health and social care have always been allowed under government guidelines.

It's much safer (covid-wise) for us to visit you than for you to visit us- we have 20 workers, all seeing 3 patients a day, that's 80 people in and out of our offices. We expose every person to 79 other people. Those 80 people touch door handles, chairs and doorbells. We don't have opportunity to clean between clients. We can't always maintain 2 meters distance (doors are code locked and auto-closing).

If I come in to your home, I wear PPE, I stand or sit 2 meters from you, I don't touch anything, you open all doors and move away from me. You can clean once I'm gone. I'll have seen 2 other people that day, I'll have done all my paperwork at home, I won't have been to the office, touching those door locks, handles, hot dealing, touching keyboards others have touched. I'll be exposing myself and you to 3 people Vs 79.

Is it the infection risk that worries you and your partner OP?