To be utterly disgusted by the protests today.

[SoggySocksAgain]

Am I alone here?

I am utterly disgusted by what I have seen in the news.

[Oldsu]

To desecrate war memorials around the 76 anniversary of the D Day Landings (my FIL was there) is totally an utterly despicable, my DS was called scum by rioters in his town when he and his friend stood and protected his war memorial on the evening BEFORE the anniversary, protected it so that people could go and pay their respects the next day and not have it covered with vile graffiti - and I am VERY proud of him for doing that and that's something I will not apologise for

[PissedOffAndAwake]

[quote AMileInMyShoes]@LadyConstanceDeCoverlet

Police on horse back have always been used in protesting and dispersing of crowds, its a proven way that often works... If ofcourse, they arent up against thugs![/quote]
The point is that there is nothing mandatory about using horses. There have been numerous much larger demonstrations where they haven't been used. There has to be a big question mark around the decision to use them when (a) it was likely to be seen as inflammatory in itself and (b) it put the horses and their riders into a potentially dangerous position with no real benefit to show for it.

[AMileInMyShoes]

@Frozenfan2019

I didnt say a thug was black did i?

I said being a thug is wrong.
Not looking like a thug
Not because someone was just there

I didnt mention colour or race, you did!!!!

A thug is a thug.

As i said

Attempting to burn the British flag
Defacing War memorials
Hurting police officers and horses

Thug-ish behaviour....

[NeutrinoWrangler]

There have been protests (riots) before, in reaction to the same types of problems. If those didn't bring about the desired effect, what makes anyone think that doing the same thing again will make a difference?

Breaking and burning things doesn't make people more likely to sympathise with you. It doesn't make people stop and say, "You know, maybe they have a point." If anything, it gives some would-be allies pause (and reinforces negative stereotypes-- to the delight of actual enemies).

YANBU, OP.

[Nefelibata86]

@AMileInMyShoes thug can be a loaded term in my experience. Case in point -someone I know describing someone as a white thug...language creates meaning and so it’s good to challenge.

[squaresandsquares]

Yep absolutely disgusted that we are STILL asking for equality.

[AMileInMyShoes]

@Nefelibata86

A thug is a thug.
Nothing to do with the colour of someone's skin!

[AMileInMyShoes]

I agree, no-one should have to deal with racism.
Its awful and should be stamped out.

George floyd didnt deserve to die, 100% was awful and the police officers should go to prison for life
But at the same time, i wouldnt be chanting the mans name, the man who broke into the home of pregnant woman and put a gun to her stomach and ransacked her home.

As i say, he didnt deserve to die, ofcourse he didnt....

But i wouldn't be using this man as an example.
Sadly there are plenty of others they could use as an example of disgusting racism

[BuntysBumperAnnual]

Yeah, none of this is about skin colour.

[AMileInMyShoes]

@BuntysBumperAnnual

I said the point i was making, about thugs wasn't about skin colour

I wasnt talking about the actual protest / disorder

[Bflatmajorsharp]

What George Floyd did or didn't do in his life is irrelevant.

The point is that he was murdered by a police officer and that despite this being clearly filmed, it took protests across the whole of the States for the officer to be charged and then more for the officers with him to be charged.

[agentstarling]

don't say anything against BLM or you will get banned the thread will get deleted

[BuntysBumperAnnual]

Yeah it's fascism innit mate. Those BAME lot got all the cards. Can't even call yourself British now etc.

[ThunderCrack]

@agentstarling

Noone is saying anything against BLM?

I'm saying how the thugs are disgusting.
Nothing about the BLM peaceful protesters

[BuntysBumperAnnual]

Next thing you know they'll all go mental if you kill them.

[Flaxmeadow]

African children are starving to death in the streets of Yemen. Famine is being filmed there right now and shown on our social media. Horrific images of famished children in the streets

And these self absorbed well fed privileged protest clowns here in the West, of all ethnicities, are gawping into cameras taking selfies, between chanting black lives matter.

Its fucked up

[toinfinityandlockdown]

Didn’t see any police at the local protest I went to, which was sanctioned by the council and no need for them. We had volunteer stewards.
Got to remember 10k plus people went to the London protest, a handful were violent. It’s a tiny percentage.

As for breaking lockdown, the right to protest is a fundamental aspect of democracy. It isn’t something the government or anyone else gets to ‘allow’ or not allow, regardless of the circumstances. That’s how you end up with totalitarian regimes.

[EmperorCovidula]

I have no patience for people who turn protests into riots. It’s just not on. It completely undermines the whole process.

[Meandyou02]

Colston was a celebrated racist as was Churchill,anyone need a history lesson just read back some of churchill's memorable speeches and his reasons for murdering millions of indians through starvation,as in his opinion they were inbreds who bought it on themselves according to this great man!pure evil and akin to Hitler in my opinion. Anyone excusing these two need a serious word with themselves especially when they dont think they are racist.im not racist but....

[EmeraldShamrock]

I'm more concerned about the amount of people all over the world who participated in a protest with crowds while the virus is at large, surely there was another way.
27 officers hurt at a time when they're desperately needed in communities too.
BLM but this is crazy behaviour during a pandemic.

[ThwartYourChub]

Wasn't aware previously that anyone needs permission to participate in civil liberties protest but maybe this is the new way of conducting civil disobedience. Do we fill out forms?

[Flaxmeadow]

...anyone need a history lesson just read back some of churchill's memorable speeches and his reasons for murdering millions of indians through starvation,

Where in his speeches does he talk of a plan to murder by starvation Indians? Is this when a tropical storm devastates rice and wheat crops, and India is threatened with invasion by the Empire of Japan? Or before that?

Do you have an example from one of these speeches please.

[MarinePsychiatrist]

They're a small minority. If they weren't vandalising and fighting at the protests, they'd be doing it outside a pub on a friday night. Vandalism and fights happen on a daily basis. Just this time it's being heavily reported to turn public opinion against the largely peaceful human rights protests.

You're being manipulated. Try to think critically.

[MarinePsychiatrist]

Breaking and burning things doesn't make people more likely to sympathise with you. It doesn't make people stop and say, "You know, maybe they have a point." If anything, it gives some would-be allies pause (and reinforces negative stereotypes-- to the delight of actual enemies)

Anyone who thinks riots are started by people thinking "hmm, perhaps this will garner us some sympathy and promote our noble cause" is obviously speaking from a position of extreme privilege and naiveté. Riots and looting are not thoughtfully planned out. They're an expression of rage and the outcome of systemic inequality and injustice.

[beachmist]

YABU