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I'm BAME and my mental health is going to pot

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asmallplace · 06/06/2020 20:53

I cry myself to sleep at night. I can't stop thinking about my black family in America who I worry about. I feel torn re my feelings about the protests. I can't handle the sheer number of comments using whataboutery and 'all lives matter' our 'well if black peoples just complied with the police'. I feel unwell. I can't listen to the news. I have to listen to my all white colleagues give their verging on racist opinions every day but feel powerless to say anything. I just feel ill. I feel overwhelmed. I'm so tired. Are there any other BAME people on here who feel the same? How are you coping?

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CanWeComeIntoTheOutNow · 10/06/2020 23:46

I am trying to be an ally. I'm challenging friends and family who seem to be missing the point, I'm trying to educate myself, I'm teaching my children as best I can so they will grow up to be better than me and my generation.

It seems like so many of the black posters in here feel alone in the face of racism and hatred and I hate that. I hope there is some comfort in allyship. I hope this is the darkness before the dawn. Please take care of yourself. You matter.

GingerScallop · 11/06/2020 00:04

OP sadly I understand how you feel. Don't feel guilty for withdrawing. A few years ago, I withdrew from reading some seriously good books on race. It got too much. I am relatively new to MN and thought it would be a, let's say, more enlightened place but that hasn't been my experience. A few days ago I read and even commented on the "Do they know it's Christmas" song thread but have found the discussion tough. Am African but any discussion of the negative effects such narratives have had on Africas or at least some of us is dismissed. We are told, well let's stop charity then. Not even how can we (all) do better? It's like the "if you don't like it, go back to Africa then" response. Today trying to read an update my heart rate actually went haywire. So am choosing to take care of myself. It's not wrong. Please shut out as much as you can and focus on you.

hugefanofcheese · 11/06/2020 00:09

I can't say I understand how unsettling this must be for you OP but two things: 1) never feel guilty for needing to switch off, regroup and focus on yourself at times. your mental health is so important. 2) although the current situation is quite scary, I honestly believe that a lot of good will come of the activism that is happening right now. Even in small ways, people will start to think twice about their actions and motives and feel more supported in challenging bad behaviour. I feel we might just be moving in the right direction and more people want to be part of the fight against racism. FlowersCakeBrew

Allinadaystwerk · 11/06/2020 00:13

I feel extremely anxious too. Fearful exposed and unable to switch off. I want to but feel bad for wanting to. I fully support BLM. but seeing the hatred and resistance to change so blatantly emerging as well as the copious amounts of videos depicting abuse from police towards black people, watching George floyd beg for his life for 9 minutes and die while no one felt able to help was mortifying. I have not slept well since. But this is the first time I have expressed these feelings. Thanks for opening the door op. Hope you feel better soon. Hope we all do

Vodkacranberryplease · 11/06/2020 00:19

Jesus fucking Christ. It's disgusting that you are made to feel this way. Just vile. I don't know who these total and utter fuckwits are but I don't know one single person who would say or think anything even remotely like that.

Here's my advice. It is possible to be entirely oblivious to most of the ridiculous shit in the news. I don't watch the tv news. I don't read Facebook news. I read the times, and even then mostly magazine or style. Or the guardian but not the news. It's all too depressing. Just switch off now. All of it. Watch comedy. Read books. Do yoga or joe wicks or whatever you like sports wise. Ring your friends. Meet your friends in the park. Be totally ignorant on current affairs. It's very freeing.

I also think that this is affecting you to the point where you're seeing things that might not be happening - and I say that as someone who has had awful depression in the past. Depression is just constant shame, thinking everyone is judging you and stress at the news (which is always dreadful).

Coronavirus is stressing the world out - to have this on top is just too much. But please take it from someone who would have heard people saying these things if they thought them - I never hear or see anyone doing this. Mind you I don't actually know any morons.

It's like the telegraph. Great women's section but the comments from men were so foul I had to stop reading it. And I feel much better for it. People are beastly. The only way around it is to create your own little bubble of decent, smart people who support you and who you like being around.

maggiethecat · 11/06/2020 12:25

BAME here. It is exhausting. But how else can it be if we are to have the honest conversations and self examination that's required to start to make changes. I think we do need to be realistic and not think that change will be sudden and dramatic. It will be a long road and unfortunately we will be having these conversations for a long time yet. However, I hope that conversations will not be driven by another brutal police murder but rather by people wanting to challenge themselves to do better.

MamaLion1319 · 11/06/2020 12:39

Also struggling. Mixed raced here. Have split from my partner (Romany gypsy) after his views on the matter. He has a post on fb that has gone viral and the comments are disgusting. Like "saw a black man in tescos with a basket full of bananas...."
Have heard about Britain First terrorising protesters, which seems to be planned for all future BLM matters. Which is unreported by the press and BLM villafied.
Sick of people saying it's only the US when we all know that's not the case, also having suffered brutality and had a cousin die in custody.
Furious at covert racism by Boris "thuggery" comments.
Furious at people staring George Floyd was a criminal.
Furious at people posting pictures of a little blonde girl saying no one rioted for her.
And scared, by the confidence of people making racist or veiled racist comments. Scared that we truly do not know who holds these views about us and that we could be segregated more than ever.

FTMF30 · 11/06/2020 12:58

Hi OP,

I feel you. It's great to see so many posts in support of you and I'm grateful you have expressed yourself hear.
Sadly this forum is rife with racists, so could be of both anguish and solace. I have no solution but just want to let you know I hear you.
Don't feel responsible for not talking about racism all the time. It's draining. Look after yourself and indulge in some escapism with a good book or box set. It may be putting a tiny plaster on a massive wound, but I think constantly being faced with any kind of racism is draining. 💐

Vodkacranberryplease · 11/06/2020 20:07

Ok so here's the thing about the internet. It's nasty and ugly. Its misogynist and racist and anti Semitic and homophobic. This is in the spotlight at the moment and it's making people think. Some people do not like to think. But it's also creating change, which is fantastic. Think about Harvey Weinstein and me too. That was fucking horrendous.

But as far as this goes 99.99% of white people simply do not think that way. It's only a few mouthy pricks online or maybe IRL and even then they don't actually think that they are just showing off.

I can completely imagine how this could be frightening and depressing, but the storm you are seeing online and with these protests is not real life.

There are, unfortunately backward stupid people in the UK, of all races. But this reminds me of the Labour Party anti Semitic storm. I knew a lot of Jewish people who were very uncomfortable and felt very unsafe.

For whatever reason though we have advanced as a society the arseholes seem to get the airtime - but they would be arseholes no matter what their cause of the day was. Things will change as a result of this - they are already. So don't back down and don't stop saying it.

As for the Romany gipsy.. that's a fucking cheek isn't is? Jesus.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 11/06/2020 22:12

Not BAME but many friends in the same boat

The short term and immediate thing is to come off social media immediately?
You have seen it all now
Then second thing is to consider having a few gentle days , and be very VERY kind to yourself . If that’s some time off work , take
It

How one handles the arseholes is another question, but if you can take some proactive actions to soothe your mind ?

FlowersFlowers

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