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I feel my husband is making us fools

280 replies

Wouldyoudoit2 · 05/06/2020 13:59

We engaged a company with good reviews to move our hot tub from one property to another. The distance is approx 100 miles.

We were quoted £600. Having had a hot tub moved in the past, this was the maximum I wanted to pay for this distance but asked if this was inclusive of VAT. We were told it was, all good.

The agreement was to meet (socially distanced) at one property at 9am for load and then the company had another job to do somewhere on the way, so the plan was to message or call and give a guide as to when they would be arriving at the other end and we would get there to ensure access is available for drop off.

My husband goes to the property as planned at 9am. The company did not arrive until nearer 10am.
I get a message from my husband to say it has been loaded on to the truck and that they will be taking it back to theirs (not sure if it’s a lock up or home) and bringing it to destination property on Monday.
They will wash it over the weekend and do the service on Monday at the house.

I’m fuming!
Here is my side: I feel that my husband has just allowed a company to drive away with our property and they could do anything over the weekend such as create jobs/repairs that they will come across when servicing it on Monday.
He has allowed this as the guy is running late (not my problem he has been more than one job for the day in the diary and arrived late) and it will make it easier on everyone.
The guy has offered no discount for moving the goal posts. I am quite happy to wash my own hot tub over the weekend and can accept he may run later but want my hot tub to be delivered on the same day as planned.
I then find out he is not charging VAT. I didn’t want a cash job, again this guy is manipulating the situation to suit his agenda at no cost to him.

This is just not what was agreed and I’m not happy.

My husband thinks I’m too cynical and need to trust people.
I think he is being foolish.
Who do you think is BU?
I’m also annoyed that he did not call to discuss whether I agreed with this change.

(The hot tub cost £15k when new. Please don’t take that wrong, it is just factual information as to what they have in their care over the weekend).

OP posts:
Lightline · 05/06/2020 18:37

You sound like hard work. Poor DH

wheretonow123 · 05/06/2020 18:38

First
World
Problem

Wouldyoudoit2 · 05/06/2020 18:40

Lightline you sound limited

OP posts:
Soulstirring · 05/06/2020 18:41

I’d be fuming and I agree with @Wecandothis99... they have a right weekend planned

MintyMabel · 05/06/2020 18:42

It’s seems you all disagree with me to feel concerned and annoyed my husband blindly agreed without even a discussion with me.

Yes. He’s an adult and capable of making decisions on the spot without checking everything with you first. I expect the “50/50” decisions you think you make are nothing of the sort. If you had decided this wasn’t ok, that’s not a 50/50 decision, that is you getting your way and him backing down.

You also seem very hung up on the VAT. What difference does it make? The price is the same, and it’s up to him to decide whether he pays the VAT or not. If you’re that incensed by it, report him to HMRC and let them sort it out.

If you’re so worried about where your precious hot tub is over the weekend, call him and ask him where it is so you can go and keep it company, tuck it in for the night.

Too late to worry about insurance, you should have checked he had some before you waved him off with your property.

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Grilledaubergines · 05/06/2020 19:01

[quote BobbieDraper]@Grilledaubergines

You can do that with anything, and all of a sudden, nothing in anyone's life should matter.

I'm upset that an ex partner of mine sold a diamond choker of mine. It was inherited from my Gran... and he stole and sold it. Its not a child, but I was really very very upset about it.

I was also upset when my dog chewed up a pair of shoes which you can no longer buy. I really liked those shoes and I was upset. It's not a child, but I was still allowed to be upset.

Or are you saying that mumsnet is now only allowing posts which are about genuine sorrow and heartache? We're not allowed to post about smaller annoying/worrying things anymore?

People are allowed to feel irritated or worried when people have their stuff when they arent meant too! Saying its not like a child is just stupid, because then we could never have a moan about anything.[/quote]
Ok well please make sure you pull up everyone else who has commented to the same effect as me.

HforHotel · 05/06/2020 19:13

I think you’re overreacting

fascinated · 05/06/2020 19:36

Yanbu

Read the book “Surrounded by idiots”

You are a blue. Which is great. The world needs blues.

Your husband isn’t. Neither are the tradespeople.

Not much you can do about it now. Hope it works out ok in this instance. It might be worth trying to understand more about what makes your husband tick. He may have other qualities . Perhaps these kind of jobs are more your domain - swap responsibilities for something different if it is going to cause you anxiety when he does these things? Or try to discuss it with him if you think he is capable of seeing the Blue perspective... Good luck.

fascinated · 05/06/2020 19:46

Psychology aside, you sound a little bit stressed out. I have a tendency to be like this but have had to rein it in. If they break it or something isn’t right with it you can take them to small claims court, or report them to trading standards, or leave bad reviews etc. Negotiate with them to get the result you want and if it doesn’t go your way, take it further. If you buy things that are that expensive then you have to accept that something may go pear shaped and you may lose out financially. Tradespeople are notoriously poor in this country and I too am extremely cynical. I try to take precautions as much as possible but often it makes no difference as so many tradespeople are just shit. I have had to learn to live with that. For that reason I now secretly accept that we may well be screwed a certain percentage of the time and if there is no recourse as outlined above, I will just have to live with that. So in the nicest possible way, I’d advise you to let it go for now because stewing over it won’t help you...

Wouldyoudoit2 · 05/06/2020 19:58

I thank everyone for their comments. It is interesting to see some agree, some don’t.
That is ok.

I shall see what happens. What will be will be.
I hope everyone has a great weekend.

OP posts:
Wouldyoudoit2 · 05/06/2020 20:01

fascinated

This post was worth it for that recommendation alone.
I shall read it for sure.
Thank you. Smile

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 05/06/2020 20:09

Too late to worry about insurance, you should have checked he had some before you waved him off with your property

@MintyMabel, the entire point of the thread is that it wasn't the OP who waved the movers off with her property without checking any pertinent details. It was her idiot H.

Winederlust · 05/06/2020 20:18
  1. Life's major or minor daily irritations don't just disappear because of the virus.
  2. Are PP really saying that if they entered into a contract (verbal or written) with a business to provide a service, and on the day that business turned round and changed the goalposts with little or no explanation they'd be ok with this?
  3. If this happened when you were not there and someone else (husband or whoever) agreed to these last minute changes without discussion with all relevant parties (assuming jointly owned property and joint payment of services) you'd be ok with this?

At the end of the day, no matter how well recommended or how many good reviews this business has, they are a stranger to the OP.
In my line of work I see so many people who have lost anything from a few hundred quid to their life savings because they've put their trust in complete strangers without doing any due diligence or getting anything in writing then are incredulous that they've been done over.
Cheats and scammers are the minority but they do exist. It blows my mind that people don't do all they can to minimise the risk of them becoming victims.

MintyMabel · 05/06/2020 20:19

the entire point of the thread is that it wasn't the OP who waved the movers off with her property without checking any pertinent details. It was her idiot H.

She chose them in her “50/50” decision making. If they had done as she commanded, she would have been happy with them. She has no idea despite her rigorous due diligence whether or not they are insured or whether her home insurance covered the tub in transit. Insurance would be required whether they went A-B or A-B-C. If she has no idea if A-B-C is covered then she hasn’t been as diligent as she thinks because any break in the A-B journey could be construed as A-B-C.

fascinated · 05/06/2020 20:26

It’s a little simplistic (can you tell I’m a blue?!) , but I think there’s a grain of truth to it. All the best.

Winederlust · 05/06/2020 20:30

any break in the A-B journey could be construed as A-B-C.

Well that's not necessarily true MintyMabel.
There is a difference between stopping at a services where the hot tub stays on the vehicle and something happens there (services being the B in the ABC situation), and the hot tub being unloaded and stored at another premises (B) for 2 nights between A and C.
The OP agreed to the first scenario and therefore only had cause to check insurance for this. Why would she check for the second scenario when she didn't agree to this?

fascinated · 05/06/2020 20:37

Winderust is right!

ramamamadingdong · 05/06/2020 20:39

I would be worrying like you are. It's a big asset for you not to know where it is, and they're not longer providing the agreed service. Maybe if it had been a car, people might be responding differently to your concerns. I hope it works out.

heartsonacake · 05/06/2020 20:58

YABVU. You’re being hard work and creating an issue where there isn’t one. You need to calm down.

FightingFiles · 05/06/2020 21:43

Ew. Sex pond.

Lightline · 05/06/2020 22:12

@Wouldyoudoit2 it’s limited to be petty over a hot tub

Bipbopbee · 05/06/2020 22:24

“I feel my husband is making us fools“

Is that you Melania?

mrsbyers · 05/06/2020 23:41

You sound really controlling , let your husband make a decision himself ffs