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MNHQ here - should we support the campaign to end ‘rough sex’ defences?

535 replies

JustineMumsnet · 04/06/2020 12:21

Hello

As lots of you will already know because their campaign originated on Mumsnet, the group We Can’t Consent To This has been running a campaign to end ‘rough sex’ defences - and we’d like to know what you think about MNHQ signing up as a supporter of their
campaign.

Their aim is to end a situation in which defendants can claim that the death of or injury to a woman was caused by ‘consensual sex games gone wrong’.

They say:

‘We’ve now found 60 UK women who’ve been killed by men who claim a sex game gone wrong - and in the last 5 years the defence was successful in 7 of the 17 killings of a woman which reached trial, with the man being found not guilty or receiving a manslaughter conviction. We've found many more women injured in what the accused men claim was consensual sexual violence.
Yet more women tell us it’s now commonplace to be assaulted and abused by men they’re dating, with 38% of UK women under 40 reporting being assaulted - choked, slapped, gagged or spat on - in otherwise consensual sex. That equates to 3.6 million women under 40 in the UK who have experienced unbidden violence in sex - and we know that women over 40 experience this too.
We do not believe that women can consent to their grievous injury or death, and will campaign until claiming this is no longer a useful defence.’
We Can’t Consent To This is currently lobbying to tackle these ‘rough sex defences’ by adding amendements to the Domestic Abuse Bill that is going through Parliament, meaning that now is the time to get writing to MPs to encourage them to support the changes.

We'd love to get behind this campaign but as ever we said we’d ask you what you thought - so please let us know by adding your thoughts here or voting YANBU for ‘Yes please I’d like Mumsnet to support this campaign’ and YABU for ‘No, I don’t think Mumsnet should support this campaign’. (Apologies for using the AIBU metric for this but it’s the best way we have at the moment to get a snapshot survey of people who’ve read the OP.)

Big thanks

OP posts:
C8H10N4O2 · 04/06/2020 14:58

Yes

Annasgirl · 04/06/2020 14:59

Yes please. I was discussing this topic with a friend this morning, so few women are aware this is even an issue. I wholeheartedly support you in this.

BertieBotts · 04/06/2020 15:00

Yes please! I'd strongly support this.

Notverygrownup · 04/06/2020 15:02

100% yes

gassylady · 04/06/2020 15:04

Why on earth would you not want to support this campaign?? Can’t believe a campaign is needed to de fair but it is clearly a worthwhile cause of interest to women

Thesuzle · 04/06/2020 15:04

Absolutely behind this campaign
Who the hell are the 3% ????

Smallsteps88 · 04/06/2020 15:05

I’m baffled that this is even being asked tbh. Is there a reason MNHQ haven’t just supported it?

LastTrainEast · 04/06/2020 15:06

I completely support this. And I agree that porn is teaching younger people that it's somehow part of normal relationships.

SaskiaRembrandt · 04/06/2020 15:09

Absolutely!

truthisarevolutionaryact · 04/06/2020 15:18

Yes, yes, yes.
Thank you.

YukoandHiro · 04/06/2020 15:23

Yes absolutely!

JemimaShore · 04/06/2020 15:28

Yes, please do.

Darkrainbow · 04/06/2020 15:28

Yes, definitely. I almost pressed the wrong button as they're the opposite way around compared to the way Justine mentions them in her opening post. I'm hoping those that appear to of objected made this mistake.

Nowisthemonthofmaying · 04/06/2020 15:29

Yes definitely

SilverLetters · 04/06/2020 15:43

Yes

Al1Langdownthecleghole · 04/06/2020 15:45

Clearly Yes.

ellenpartridge · 04/06/2020 15:49

Yes

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 04/06/2020 15:50

Yes, please. Brilliant idea.

BingPot720 · 04/06/2020 15:54

Yes, absolutely yes.

uglyswan · 04/06/2020 15:55

Yes

susandelgado · 04/06/2020 15:56

Definitely! Please support this.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 04/06/2020 15:58

Yes please!

Piccalino3 · 04/06/2020 15:59

Yes absolutely!

BaronessFloralBunting · 04/06/2020 16:00

100% yes

BumpkinSpiceBatty · 04/06/2020 16:04

Yes.

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