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To NOT offer to help NDN with lawns

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UserFriendly14 · 03/06/2020 21:56

NDN is in her 90’s and lives alone. She has Carers come in twice a day to make sure she’s eating etc. DC live away and have obviously not visited during lockdown. Both front and back gardens are overgrown and need tending to. Me and DH keep discussing whether or not to offer to help out with the gardens but with a young family ourselves, and DH working full time still, it’s hard enough to find the time to sort our own home/garden out. (Seriously he’s still out in our garden now after cleaning our windows).

The gardens are sizeable and would take a good day, if not more, to make right. The thing that sticks in DH’s throat is that 1- this has happened before when DC have gone a while without visiting, so they know well about it. 2- she has a window cleaner, who repeatedly and loudly told her [and half the street] that her DC would be paying her, so no need to worry about her paying. I’m not for a second saying how others should be spending their money, but DH has stated a gardener really wouldn’t be out of the question if it came to it. (As I said, sizeable gardens so a lot work round here and forever getting leaflets put through the door etc.)

Another point is, her memory is patchy at best, so would she remember that we’d said/agreed earlier in the day that he’d help out? (It really is painful to have a brief conversation with her).

Fully prepared to be flamed and told to go and be neighbourly.

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HaudMaDug · 04/06/2020 10:52

Once you start doing these kind of favours you can't get out it.
I've done similar when I was cutting my own lawn and doing elderly next door neighbours lawn at the same time but after months of mowing and seeing young family regularly visiting, they just sat in front of the window watching me mow without a thanks or even acknowledgement from them for helping their folks so next time I decided not to bother so after finishing my lawn and whilst putting the lawnmower away the old guy was knocking at the window and shouted out to me "what about mine?" "What about yours? I replied and he slammed the window shut and never spoke to me again.
The old adage : No good deed goes unpunished.

TakemetoGreeceplease · 04/06/2020 11:01

So you're basically an unpaid cleaner

Hardly, she's done the same for me when I've been away and saved me a fortune in cattery fees. Takes me 10 minutes once a week to give the place a quick clean, she's been away caring for her mother and their farm. She didn't ask me to do any of it and I'm currently furloughed, it's really no hardship Hmm.

Blondebakingmumma · 04/06/2020 11:16

If you are mowing your own front lawn, I think it would be kind to mow hers too. I wouldn’t do it often Incase she becomes reliant, but maybe every other fine you get the mower out

mencken · 04/06/2020 11:39

I'm doing a nearby lawn - house is empty. I offered freely, I do it every 3-4 weeks and it really does take 10 minutes. Beyond that the owner paid for a gardener.

this is too big a favour. Family will have to use some of the inheritance to maintain the property, sorry!

cleanseTone · 04/06/2020 11:45

@WinterIsGone admittedly I've no clue how grass is pollinated but long grass usually means dandelions and daisies and other bee friendly things doesn't it?

Alsohuman · 04/06/2020 12:25

@squeekums

*She doesn’t differentiate, it’s £20 an hour. Obviously “a monster” would take longer. £45 an hour is insane*

For my yard, id say 45 ph is fair. From the size, to tools you would need to supply, its a fair price. Plus travel to and from the house, car maintenance.

20 is a courtyard price, and to me wouldnt have all the tools for say edging or trimming higher trees or bushes.

Someone’s got more money than sense. Your tradesmen definitely see you coming.
Cadent · 04/06/2020 12:34

@Alsohuman it was me that posted the £45ph.

That is what is charged in my part of London for professionals who will do a decent job and take the rubbish away, for a modest 3 bed semi. We've tried a few companies.

The alternatives are local handymen who may charge £15ph, but they expect you provide equipment and dispose of rubbish yourselves. They also don't have a pressure hose to clean up afterwards. All of which is necessary when you're elderly and can't do these things yourself.

Ineedflour · 04/06/2020 12:34

She may not even want it doing.

Somanysocks · 04/06/2020 12:39

You lot are mean, where's the kindness.

My parents have had at least four neighbours offering general help even though they know they have carers and we also pop round (although they may have therefore felt safe offering).

You could do it once just to get it manageable.

Branleuse · 04/06/2020 12:45

if nobody has asked you to do this, and neither of you want to do it, then theres no problem is there? Youre overthinking it. Gardens dont need cutting if theyre not being used. Could be a valuable wildlife habitat as it is

Alsohuman · 04/06/2020 12:45

Yet another good reason for not living in London @Cadent. The professional service you describe is available for £20 ph here. Anyone charging much more than that here would never get any work.

Cadent · 04/06/2020 12:57

@Alsohuman it’s home, can’t imagine living anywhere else!

geojojo · 04/06/2020 12:59

Totally up to you but I would personally want to help just because it's the neighbourly thing to do. Obviously you can't if you don't have the time though. Window cleaners are very cheap though and maybe gardeners are a bit more of a stretch financially for her? Maybe also have a word with her children when they can visit to say she's struggling to keep on top of her garden?

Susanna85 · 04/06/2020 14:49

Yes where I am £40 p/h for someone who knows what they are doing and use their own tools etc. would be average

highmarkingsnowbile · 04/06/2020 14:51

You lot are mean, where's the kindness.

Exactly! How kind is it to not sort out gardening for your loved one when you're already paying for a window cleaner?

Kittenlicker · 04/06/2020 16:55

Glad I live in a lovely little community-spirited village with nice, helpful neighbours.

Quiglet · 04/06/2020 17:07

She needs more help, her children need to organise it, you are busy with your own family and a whole day is too much to ask of 'neighbourliness'.

Mid nineties with some dementia needs proper help, not patchy care/being reliant on when people can fit it in, not least because it could be dangerous for her if she's likely to wander or slip but that isn't something that should be laid at your door.

Can you ring her children or catch the window cleaner to get their number so they can organise something?

highmarkingsnowbile · 04/06/2020 17:14

Glad I live in a lovely little community-spirited village with nice, helpful neighbours.

Where is this? I'd like to live in a place where people did my gardening and the like for free in the name of being nice and helpful. Would save a fortune!

Ipadipod · 04/06/2020 17:15

My friend contacted the local agriculture college and now has one of the students come and do her garden while they’re studying garden design. She did the same when she wanted a bit of decorating doing. She gets it done for a reasonable price.

Kittenlicker · 04/06/2020 17:15

I’m not telling you mean-spirited lot! I don’t want you as neighbours. 😂

Cadent · 04/06/2020 17:18

I don’t want you as neighbours.

Not so lovely, nice and helpful it seems.

highmarkingsnowbile · 04/06/2020 17:20

Just trying to coin it off 'be kind', Kitten 😂😂😂.

'Sizeable' garden that would take a full day's work to sort out, for free! I want to move to Mugsville and cash in on guilt-tripped virtue signallers. Grin

EmmaGrundyForPM · 04/06/2020 17:24

Her DC could now come and cut the grass for her.
How do you know where they live or what their commitments are? My dh is an only child, his mum and stepdad live 5 hours drive away. I am working 50 hours + a week at the moment due to Covid. There is absolutely no way I am driving for 10 hours every Sunday in order to cut her lawn. They can easily afford a gardener.

I really don't get why people think that a volunteer should do something that a paid employee could do.

I do lots for my elderly neighbours including their shopping but there is no way I'm cutting their grass for them - I've barely got time to do my own

highmarkingsnowbile · 04/06/2020 17:30

I really don't get why people think that a volunteer should do something that a paid employee could do.

People love to virtue signal, Emma. All those saying 'I'd do it in a second! Be kind! I'm depressed reading this!' have I'm sure PMd the OP to see if they might be in the same area so they can go over and do the lady's gardening, gratis, of course.

EngagedAgain · 04/06/2020 17:43

The thing is, even if they did mow for the lady, IF she's got dementia she will probably still get her own mower out. They can't be responsible for what she's doing all the time. I wouldn't worry about it OP, I think you will be making a rod for your own back, and even if you did a one off the problem is still going to crop up again. I'm sure the OP would keep an eye open for her generally, and inform relatives of anything, but with a new baby soon and toddler it's going to be too much then.